Micky Adams - Honesty

[Railway Blade]

In the interests of "fairness" he opted to give Cresswell his chance.

I would rather have the the "interest of winning the game " in my mind and leave Cressy on the bench.

 

[TonyAgana]

I would rather have the the "interest of winning the game " in my mind and leave Cressy on the bench.

Completely agree. He's living a charmed life, Cresswell. Quinn too although I think he had a good game last night.

 

[Wards]

Another honest point ad it pains me to say it. Brian Howard was fucking excellent in the 1st half and almost as good in the 2nd.

Ouch.

 

[JohnDenver]

May be totally irrelevant, but Adams didn't seem to congratulate Boggy as he left the pitch. I would expect a public show of appreciation to boost the player's confidence, but perhaps that's not Adams' style. It's just something I came to expect from Warnock.

 

[SheepdipBlade]

Isn't it inconsistent of MA to say that he "doesn't care about individuals" - but then to base his choice of striker on being "fair" to Cresswell?

and - is one of MA/DB weaknesses their understanding of what a "team" is? Surely we need some flair and pace such as Ward offers to build a more rounded and effective team - not simply 11 truely hard-working honest grafters? Even if players like Ward are shirking in training - they have the abilities to add to the overall team.

Seems like a mixture of muddled thinking and too rigid ideas to me.

 

[Mousey]

Isn't it inconsistent of MA to say that he "doesn't care about individuals" - but then to base his choice of striker on being "fair" to Cresswell?

and - is one of MA/DB weaknesses their understanding of what a "team" is? Surely we need some flair and pace such as Ward offers to build a more rounded and effective team - not simply 11 truely hard-working honest grafters? Even if players like Ward are shirking in training - they have the abilities to add to the overall team.

Seems like a mixture of muddled thinking and too rigid ideas to me.

Have you seen Ward in recent games though? He looks to have as much flair as Morgan. Hopefully Riise will be what need in the flair department, along with Yeates as long as he improves to where he was in the first half of the season.

In terms of not caring about the individual players I think he means he doesn't care if they get upset about being brought off if they're being shit. However, he wants to be fair in giving them a chance to be shit in the first place.

 

[Grecian2000]

However, he wants to be fair in giving them a chance to be shit in the first place.

They certainly haven't let him down on that score.

 

[SwissBlade]

Isn't it inconsistent of MA to say that he "doesn't care about individuals" - but then to base his choice of striker on being "fair" to Cresswell?

and - is one of MA/DB weaknesses their understanding of what a "team" is? Surely we need some flair and pace such as Ward offers to build a more rounded and effective team - not simply 11 truely hard-working honest grafters? Even if players like Ward are shirking in training - they have the abilities to add to the overall team.

Seems like a mixture of muddled thinking and too rigid ideas to me.

Perhaps that by playing Cresswell up front Adams was thinking about the team?

On the Ward point, I think almost all on here are in agreement that if the likes of Ward or Yeates don't apply themselves then why should they get a game?

As a fan I expect the same level of commitment from every player, just because a player is more technically gifted or has the potential to excite, doesn't mean that they deserve a place.

 

[Tuns]

Feel sorry for Adams. He strikes me as a real Blade (unlike Warnock) and he's walked into a bit of a nightmare, with at least one hand tied behind his back, where he just doesn't have the luxury of making many mistakes.

But I could have defended against Vokes and Cresswell last night, single handedly.

Awfully tame partnership and our play in the final third is as bad as I have seen from a United team in recent years - and that is saying something.

No pace, no athleticism, no spark, no invention, no quality delivery.

Don't see what Vokes brings to us except another all round mediocre striker.

Hope Adams realises we urgently need some pace from the loan market. Riise looked quality though.

 

[Railway Blade]

Perhaps that by playing Cresswell up front Adams was thinking about the team?

I get it now, confidence building. He was saying to the rest of the lads, look you cant be as crap as him so dont worry.

 

[Pinchy]

Sorry Pinchy. I can't see the games but it seems that you must have a scape goat. Is Lowton to be the one to take the place of Monty , in your not good enough posts? Please, would you, for the benefit of those who cannot get to the Lane, tell us what the positives are(if any) from your point of view?.

Positives:

1. We didn't lose by the two or three goals that would have truly reflected Reading's superiority.

2. We got a point. Direct 'upandatem' football is a real winner just as many of you confidently predicted.

3. We are not yet relegated.

4. 19,000 Blades turned out to stoically suffer more of the same.

5. Simonsen had a good game.

6. Quinn had his one decent game in six.

7. Bogdanovic.

Who needs scapegoats when we've got such a spectacularly inept collection of 'players'? I merely point out the uncomfortable truth about certain local heroes. We are not in a relegation position by accident!

As for anyone taking Monty's place - If only.......

 

[super_pig]

did he say owt about 'leaving out the maestro due to unfortunate injury didn't result in the meltdown that we anticipated'?

 

[SheepdipBlade]

On the Ward point, I think almost all on here are in agreement that if the likes of Ward or Yeates don't apply themselves then why should they get a game?

As a fan I expect the same level of commitment from every player, just because a player is more technically gifted or has the potential to excite, doesn't mean that they deserve a place.

I totally understand your point about expecting to see (overpaid) players give 100% effort when playing for our club - but my point was more general.

MA and DB (to my knowledge) have a history of playing 100% blood and thunder, heart on sleeve football - and our team of honest, run all day grafters seems to reflect that view.

My question is - to get out of the hole we're in --Do we need players to try harder, play better, or think faster?

My view is that a mix makes for a more efficient all round team, and that players like Ward have a role to play in balancing the team - even if they're not pulling up trees in training. Is this a different view of "team" to that held and practiced by MA/DB?

Secondly - I know we can't afford players who can "play better" at the moment - so we need to man-manage the best performances from those we have - - and to state that in regards to Jordan he's not interested in individuals, but to then indulge Cresswell in his wishes, seems to be sending out a mixed message. Let's hope the squad understand things more clearly.

 

[JohnDenver]

Positives:

1. We didn't lose by the two or three goals that would have truly reflected Reading's superiority.

2. We got a point. Direct 'upandatem' football is a real winner just as many of you confidently predicted.

3. We are not yet relegated.

4. 19,000 Blades turned out to stoically suffer more of the same.

5. Simonsen had a good game.

6. Quinn had his one decent game in six.

7. Bogdanovic.

Who needs scapegoats when we've got such a spectacularly inept collection of 'players'? I merely point out the uncomfortable truth about certain local heroes. We are not in a relegation position by accident!

As for anyone taking Monty's place - If only.......

Pinchy, who are our local heroes?

I don't think we have a single player whose name is chanted. In fact, the amount of stick many of them get would suggest to me they're the polar opposite status...

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Pinchy, who are our local heroes?

I don't think we have a single player whose name is chanted. In fact, the amount of stick many of them get would suggest to me they're the polar opposite status...

Simonsen and Bogdanovic both had their names chanted last night.

 

[Guesty]

How on earth is it a left backs fault for a ball played straight through the center to a striker who has scored loads of goals? the fact that Lowton got anywhere near him should be commended. His inexperience in dealing at this level with that situation meant that Long got the better of a 50/50 ball.

How on Earth can some people not think Lowton was at fault for goal? I disagree with Pinchy on a few things but this is certainly not one of them. He actually got in front of his man but was as timid as a lamb, absolutely shocking defending I'm afraid. I can only imagine the reaction if it was Nosworthy that got done like that.

 

[Bladesway]

I totally understand your point about expecting to see (overpaid) players give 100% effort when playing for our club - but my point was more general.

MA and DB (to my knowledge) have a history of playing 100% blood and thunder, heart on sleeve football - and our team of honest, run all day grafters seems to reflect that view.

My question is - to get out of the hole we're in --Do we need players to try harder, play better, or think faster?

My view is that a mix makes for a more efficient all round team, and that players like Ward have a role to play in balancing the team - even if they're not pulling up trees in training. Is this a different view of "team" to that held and practiced by MA/DB?

Secondly - I know we can't afford players who can "play better" at the moment - so we need to man-manage the best performances from those we have - - and to state that in regards to Jordan he's not interested in individuals, but to then indulge Cresswell in his wishes, seems to be sending out a mixed message. Let's hope the squad understand things more clearly.

Ward and Yeates would be in my team week in, week out because they need to be. They are about the only players we have with any semblence of pace. Yes they are frustrating and yes they will not be the most popular but we are loaded with "triers" and it clearly isn't enough. We actually need players who can run with the ball and pass it. Ward has glass hamstrings I know, but you play him when he is fit and he will scare opponents. Cotterill was one I could never understand why we offloaded (another KM wage cut at a guess). Wingers frustrate the hell out of you but they are the only ones who will beat a man and put it into the box.

Its going to be huff n puff and no style for the rest of the season. Unfortunately that might have worked 10 years ago, you need more than that now.

Out of interest DB got rid of a certain Paul Wood way back when and he was bloody brilliant, but his face didn't fit.

 

[Grecian2000]

Cotterill was one I could never understand why we offloaded (another KM wage cut at a guess).

Don't think we can land that one at KM's door. Pure Hoofy that move (see any winger with pace and skill but not the greatest in the tackle, eg Dyer, Cotterill, Little, Reid).

I think it's absolutely correct. We need to give the wide men games because we ain't going to create shit from anywhere else at present.

 

[Pinchy]

Pinchy, who are our local heroes?

I don't think we have a single player whose name is chanted. In fact, the amount of stick many of them get would suggest to me they're the polar opposite status...

Our assistant manager was quoted yesterday in relation to a member of our squad, currently injured. He claimed something like "He's a true Sheffield United player...what this club's all about...the fans love him."

I despise such comments. It makes a mockery of Mr. Birch's avowed 'change of culture'. It signals more of more of the same. It says we deserve no better and should expect no better. It is, in short, a philosophy of despair and a statement of wretched intent.

Mr. Cork, You do not speak for me* or for many others. Did you consult John Pemberton or, more particularly Trevor Birch? Or just Dinosaur Dave?

*Richard Batho, please note.

 

[TonyAgana]

Ward and Yeates would be in my team week in, week out because they need to be. They are about the only players we have with any semblence of pace. Yes they are frustrating and yes they will not be the most popular but we are loaded with "triers" and it clearly isn't enough. We actually need players who can run with the ball and pass it. Ward has glass hamstrings I know, but you play him when he is fit and he will scare opponents. Cotterill was one I could never understand why we offloaded (another KM wage cut at a guess). Wingers frustrate the hell out of you but they are the only ones who will beat a man and put it into the box.

Its going to be huff n puff and no style for the rest of the season. Unfortunately that might have worked 10 years ago, you need more than that now.

Out of interest DB got rid of a certain Paul Wood way back when and he was bloody brilliant, but his face didn't fit.

Don't think we can land that one at KM's door. Pure Hoofy that move (see any winger with pace and skill but not the greatest in the tackle, eg Dyer, Cotterill, Little, Reid).

I think it's absolutely correct. We need to give the wide men games because we ain't going to create shit from anywhere else at present.

Some sense being spoken at last.

 

[beechblade]

Don't think we can land that one at KM's door. Pure Hoofy that move (see any winger with pace and skill but not the greatest in the tackle, eg Dyer, Cotterill, Little, Reid).

I think it's absolutely correct. We need to give the wide men games because we ain't going to create shit from anywhere else at present.

But when your wide men aren't perfotming at all, then you still aint going to create anything anyway, so why should we persist with them? If they've been dropped its up to them to proves themselves, why don't they grow a set and step up their game, imply themselves in training and get on with the job they are paid to do?

Instead of being a set of whinging pre-madonnas.

 

[TonyAgana]

But when your wide men aren't perfotming at all, then you still aint going to create anything anyway, so why should we persist with them? If they've been dropped its up to them to proves themselves, why don't they grow a set and step up their game, imply themselves in training and get on with the job they are paid to do?

Instead of being a set of whinging pre-madonnas.

Couple of reasons, in my book. Because wingers are invariably confidence players (also the only players in our team who run with the ball at their feet) and that without them, you're left with the only option of playing players out of position as we simply don't have any more round pegs for those circular shaped holes in MA's favoured 4-4-2 formation.

 

[beechblade]

Couple of reasons, in my book. Because wingers are invariably confidence players (also the only players in our team who run with the ball at their feet) and that without them, you're left with the only option of playing players out of position as we simply don't have any more round pegs for those circular shaped holes in MA's favoured 4-4-2 formation.

There is a thing abiut confidence and not being arsed though and Ward hasn't been arsed for a while, Yeates seems to be in that frame of mind too, I fully accept that they're all we are left with but these too need a kick up the arse.

 

[TonyAgana]

There is a thing abiut confidence and not being arsed though and Ward hasn't been arsed for a while, Yeates seems to be in that frame of mind too, I fully accept that they're all we are left with but these too need a kick up the arse.

Of all the things you could level at Yeates, he always looks eager and itching to play, to me.

 

[beechblade]

Of all the things you could level at Yeates, he always looks eager and itching to play, to me.

I like Yeates, but I think his attitude hasn't been there in the recent games, I can't comment on last night I wasn't there I was at work but certainly on saturday there were a few times he could have broke and he just trudge along, previously we would have seen the Yeates your talking about bust his gut to make the run but he didn't.

 

[Foxy]

Of all the things you could level at Yeates, he always looks eager and itching to play, to me.

I don't mind him in the side at all when he is...

However, it's far from the case on a regular basis.

I'd suggest last nights sudden upturn in attitude and effort was more to do with a genuine replacement being sat on the bench and having been told so than being allowed to start a game.

Yeates is incredibly lazy and fails to take responsibility at times, something that really, really annoys me in footballers.