Assuming we can't off load either we need 2 new first choice Centre backs with Mcg and Tanganga as back ups. At a push you can get away with playing one of them but both of them together will not work. Neither are dominant enough or capable of bring the ball out of defence which is a major factor why our play is so pedestrian.
McGuiness
- Thread starter Slim Man
- Start date
All advertisments are hidden for logged in members, why not log in/register?
Houston_Blade
Well-Known Member
A ‘kick it, head it’ defender who struggles to kick it and head it.
Alongside Tanganga, who obviously wishes he’d not left Millwall and personally I agree with him.
We’ve gone from having Basham, Egan and JOC to these clowns.
Alongside Tanganga, who obviously wishes he’d not left Millwall and personally I agree with him.
We’ve gone from having Basham, Egan and JOC to these clowns.
Betis and Jamie offered him Tanganga Matsos Chong long contracts on lots of money and we gave their old clubs a load of dosh
Im sorry, but why are we all so quick to jump on McGuinness, when in reality it should be Tanganga..
We paid £3m for Mcguinness, and 3x that for Tanganga. He's meant to be our captain. How is he getting bullied in the air by Blackburn's striker yesterday for his second goal....
McGuinness is limited, but at least he'll always give 100%.. Tanganga looks the most disinterested player ever.
We paid £3m for Mcguinness, and 3x that for Tanganga. He's meant to be our captain. How is he getting bullied in the air by Blackburn's striker yesterday for his second goal....
McGuinness is limited, but at least he'll always give 100%.. Tanganga looks the most disinterested player ever.
AnstonBlade1
Active Member
- Joined
- Oct 1, 2018
- Messages
- 1,745
- Reaction score
- 2,341
He’s got a cracking agent, who sanctioned a four year contract??
He’ll be the main man next season nobody else will take him off our hands
He’ll be the main man next season nobody else will take him off our hands
Houston_Blade
Well-Known Member
If him and Tanganga are our central defenders on a consistent basis next season we’ll finish no higher than 10th, unless we find a player who can create and score enough goals to out score the errors made by them.
Maurice Maurice
Active Member
- Joined
- Nov 17, 2021
- Messages
- 2,334
- Reaction score
- 9,217
As an ex defender, I'm suprised that Wilder isn't looking at a complete defensive rebuild as top priority. It's not that we concede goals, more that the goals we do concede are gifted to the opposition. Midfield doesn't help by disappearing when the opposition has the ball but the defence as a whole is fucking pitiful. Tanganga is shockingly bad, he makes some great last ditch blocks but that's because he's trying to recover from being out of position, can't read the game and he certainly isn't a leader of men so shouldn't have the captaincy. McGuinnes is no better or worse than Tanganga. Wins a few headers, isn't very good and should be playing at a lower level. Bindon, still a work in progress is better than both of them but he's not our player so no point banging his drum.
Worst of the lot is Burrows, he has no defensive attributes at all. As soon as we lose the ball, anywhere on the pitch he switches off. He doesn't run back, he doesn't know where he should be and he gets skipped past like he's a statue of by some fluke he is in the vicinity of his man. He's a defensive Nick Montgomery but without the running about. I'm glad he's weighed in with a couple of goals but he's cost us far more than he's scored.
UTBFTP
Worst of the lot is Burrows, he has no defensive attributes at all. As soon as we lose the ball, anywhere on the pitch he switches off. He doesn't run back, he doesn't know where he should be and he gets skipped past like he's a statue of by some fluke he is in the vicinity of his man. He's a defensive Nick Montgomery but without the running about. I'm glad he's weighed in with a couple of goals but he's cost us far more than he's scored.
UTBFTP
Kevincarterversion2.0
Active Member
- Joined
- May 17, 2015
- Messages
- 1,826
- Reaction score
- 2,502
Agreed. McGuinness was an absolute statue all night. Don’t want to him anywhere near the first team again but some div gave him a massive wage and another div picks him over Bindon.
Houston_Blade
Well-Known Member
Wilder’s plan with McGuinness and Rothwell has obviously been to play them into form and fitness. The problem is that they need to go and play in League 1 to look half decent, no amount of playing them into form will work in the Championship.
McGuinness doesn’t have the attributes to be anything other than a very limited and occasional squad player. Rothwell makes me, at 41 and with various ailments, look like a mobile footballer.
And yet he wasnt the worst player last night ,not even the worst centre back.
Did I say it did ?
Carlton Blade
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Apr 24, 2017
- Messages
- 19,161
- Reaction score
- 37,241
Tbf, it's a thread specifically about him. Tanganga has taken as much grief elsewhere
I get it. Just feel like he gets a lot more grief than necessary
Carlton Blade
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Apr 24, 2017
- Messages
- 19,161
- Reaction score
- 37,241
I get that. It's not particularly his fault that the club overpaid for him
Working Class Hero
Active Member
- Joined
- Mar 26, 2014
- Messages
- 2,117
- Reaction score
- 4,374
The worst thing about this signing is that it was universally known that he was an absolute dud of a signing for Luton, yet we decided to spend good money on him anyway.
You could maybe accept it if he's impressed at this level last season and it just hasn't worked out for us, or even if it was a bit of a gamble on a youngster or someone from abroad. But this was as close as you can get to a signing that was guaranteed to not be up to the standard.
It's like we didn't do any real research in to the player at all. Normally that would seem like a daft suggestion, but when you look at the other signings from that window, you genuinely have to wonder.
You could maybe accept it if he's impressed at this level last season and it just hasn't worked out for us, or even if it was a bit of a gamble on a youngster or someone from abroad. But this was as close as you can get to a signing that was guaranteed to not be up to the standard.
It's like we didn't do any real research in to the player at all. Normally that would seem like a daft suggestion, but when you look at the other signings from that window, you genuinely have to wonder.
The person or people responsible for those mad last 7/8 days of the window needs outing pure footballing and business negligence
Well Wednesday rated him highly, so it checks out....
Easily pleased them lot, see Marvin Johnon and Maximus Lowe.
FriethBlade
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Aug 18, 2015
- Messages
- 5,936
- Reaction score
- 9,918
And so have any potential buyers. Hes league one and league one clubs dont spend much money on transfers. Its mind boggling to think of the wages going out to players who wont be first choice next season.
ChipButtyBlade
Well-Known Member
We need better.
Balham
S24SU Seer
No club in world football is going to offer us anything more than £2-3m for Tanganga because that's about what he's worth. It's not his fault that we paid 3x that but from a financial perspective we'd need to get £5m this summer to avoid a P&L (and therefore PSR) cost.
Ogbene is clearly not physically ready for a season of Championship football. Funny that, after an Achilles rupture. And yet there's people on here getting misty eyed about us resigning Harry Souttar who's even further behind in his rehab than Ogbene was.
The decision of Jamie Hoyland to open up that old email from Wilder entitled "Summer Transfer Targets" then proceed to sign McGuinness, Chong(y) and Tanganga for a combined £15m is going to ruin us until 2030.
Tony Currie
Member
- Joined
- Aug 6, 2009
- Messages
- 721
- Reaction score
- 1,958
Binden has been injured
No he hasn't
madeinsheffield
Well-Known Member
Don't want to break it to you but we paid £8m for McGuinness, and £3m for Chong, to twice relegated Luton, they must be pissing themselves still to this day
Balham
S24SU Seer
We didn't.
£4m for McGuinness (roughly in line with his book value at Luton, who were desperate to get him off the wage bill after relegation) and £2.5m for Chong. Still too much for either of them but way better than the numbers you've
Similar threads
All advertisments are hidden for logged in members, why not log in/register?