McGoldrick

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Shouldn't be playing him up front, Wilder's lineup was at fault. How on earth can you play Norwood Fleck and Lundstrum all together
 
Shouldn't be playing him up front, Wilder's lineup was at fault. How on earth can you play Norwood Fleck and Lundstrum all together
The midfield was fine, we created lots of chances. Although I do prefer a Duffy type in there.
 
Stupid quotes like "if he could finish he wouldnt be with us" make me laugh! Chances like that are a strikers bread and butter should be scoring no excuses, when u miss them chances everything else gets overlooked and that's what will start happening unfortunately. Thought midfield was a yard of the pace today as well.
 
Love Didsy but I’m Sick of hearing people say “but Didsy offers us so much more than just goals”
He’s there to score fucking goals!!
He should either be used against the better teams in the league or play him in the midfield 3.
 
We will see, my comment was a joke relating to how it’s clearly been wrong so far and stuck with things clearly not working. This isn’t North Korea and the boss can be criticised.

Yep, he can be and I’ve no issue with you being critical it’s the ‘watch him blah blah’ bollocks that I have no time for
 
So you feel that a striker missing 1v1’s is ok?
So you feel that a striker missing 1v1’s is ok?
McGoldrick is best played as a number 10, his link play, winning back the ball, distribution and reading of the game are his best points. Finishing is not his strongest although he has still scored crucial goals Preston away last season for example. If you are looking for a scapegoat for today it isn't McGoldrick. Southampton will finish upper half of the table in my opinion. Not a bad side at all.
 
Yep, he can be and I’ve no issue with you being critical it’s the ‘watch him blah blah’ bollocks that I have no time for
Ok, well I could write a page long criticism on the subject but I’m already fuming and decided to convey the same message in a short, more light hearted way. It’s not disrespect like you said initially.
 
Mcgoldrick i thought had his most influential game of the season in 10 role. which i thought post Leicester he isnt a 9. its 10 or bench. there is a big argument he couldve had 4 today & no striker whether its aguero or a non league striker should miss that chance 1 on 1
 
It's obviously a psychological barrier he has to overcome I think we should stick with him
If he gets one he will get a hatful and none of the other strikers look anywhere near the goal threat he does
 
Can’t afford a striker who doesn’t finish the one on ones.

He played well on the ball outside the box but that at the end of the day isn’t what we pay him for.
 
It's obviously a psychological barrier he has to overcome I think we should stick with him
If he gets one he will get a hatful and none of the other strikers look anywhere near the goal threat he does
He scored for Ireland his first, so should be full of it!
 

Can’t afford a striker who doesn’t finish the one on ones.

He played well on the ball outside the box but that at the end of the day isn’t what we pay him for.
Second half it was, he was dropped into that deeper role
 
Not a great finisher, missed some sitters last season. Can’t afford to do it in the Prem. Ravel or Robinson and McBurnie. Appreciate Robbinson probably rested today. Sir Chris needs to find a way to start Freeman too as he’s a threat. In Wilder we trust, be reyt.
 
He started last season like this, couldn't finish for toffee then all of a sudden he couldn't stop scoring. I do think Billy would have buried that first chance today though, assuming he was in the same position to take it of course.

A tight game today, oh and Lee Mason was appaulling in the 2nd half. Shit happens.

We go again.
 
I think people miss the point slightly on McGoldrick though. If you drop him, those chances aren't all necessarily going to fall in the way of whoever replaces him and therefore result in more goals.

McGoldrick drifts all over the field, he's very unconventional as a forward - hence, defenders often fail to pick him up. This then results in opportunities which McGoldrick then often fluffs.

If say, Mousset or Robinson played instead of McGoldrick I don't believe they'd get anything like the chances falling to them that McGoldrick does.

Crucially, what he offers between both boxes is so crticial to how we play that I'm really not sure that dropping him is the answer. Maybe the answer is returning to the same system as last year, but with McGoldrick playing the Duffy role?
 
McGoldrick is best played as a number 10, his link play, winning back the ball, distribution and reading of the game are his best points. Finishing is not his strongest although he has still scored crucial goals Preston away last season for example. If you are looking for a scapegoat for today it isn't McGoldrick. Southampton will finish upper half of the table in my opinion. Not a bad side at all.

I’m not looking for a scapegoat, you’ll never find me doing that.
 
I’ve got to say as much as I respect him as a manager i’m disappointed by Wilders comment to the fan regarding McGoldrick - free transfer from Ipswich.
It almost sounds like an excuse as to why he’s missing chances. And when he’s spent £40m+ i just don’t think it’s a valid excuse.
 
I think people miss the point slightly on McGoldrick though. If you drop him, those chances aren't all necessarily going to fall in the way of whoever replaces him and therefore result in more goals.

McGoldrick drifts all over the field, he's very unconventional as a forward - hence, defenders often fail to pick him up. This then results in opportunities which McGoldrick then often fluffs.

If say, Mousset or Robinson played instead of McGoldrick I don't believe they'd get anything like the chances falling to them that McGoldrick does.

Crucially, what he offers between both boxes is so crticial to how we play that I'm really not sure that dropping him is the answer. Maybe the answer is returning to the same system as last year, but with McGoldrick playing the Duffy role?
But look at the chances hes missed and he's where a striker should be so yes they would or should fall to the other strikers. Would they score them who knows we'd all just be guessing
 
He is NOT a striker. He is a midfielder.

I have said this ever since he arrived here.

He’s a crackin’ player and I really like him. But FFS stop playing him as a striker - use him as the number 10 - and we’ll do a lot better.

He's the pefect no.10 - is Wilder ballsy enough to play him behind 2 strikers?
 
I think people miss the point slightly on McGoldrick though. If you drop him, those chances aren't all necessarily going to fall in the way of whoever replaces him and therefore result in more goals.

McGoldrick drifts all over the field, he's very unconventional as a forward - hence, defenders often fail to pick him up. This then results in opportunities which McGoldrick then often fluffs.

If say, Mousset or Robinson played instead of McGoldrick I don't believe they'd get anything like the chances falling to them that McGoldrick does.

Crucially, what he offers between both boxes is so crticial to how we play that I'm really not sure that dropping him is the answer. Maybe the answer is returning to the same system as last year, but with McGoldrick playing the Duffy role?


He drifts and thus he is better suited to playing the 10 role.
 
Lovely football and links the play well but his
Finishing will cost him his place up front. Mousett and Robbo next game and play Mac just behind
 
But look at the chances hes missed and he's where a striker should be so yes they would or should fall to the other strikers. Would they score them who knows we'd all just be guessing

It's far too simplistic of an argument.

McGoldrick is all over the park, between the lines getting us up the pitch. He's a reason we're able to get a foothold in a lot of games. Particularly at the moment when we're playing with this flat 3. If we played McBurnie up top on his bill with Robinson they'd always be miles away from our midfield and it would be hard to get up & support attacks.

I'm not denying it's an issue that McGoldrick is missing these chances, but I'm not sure it would be of benefit to the team to drop him. I could be wrong. But this is my opinion.



He drifts and thus he is better suited to playing the 10 role.

Which is how I concluded my post. Perhaps the answer, especially at home to teams like Southampton, is to play McGoldrick in Duffy's old role with 2 more conventional forwards.
 

Whether he holds the ball up, links the play, drifts all over the park etc, is IMHO somewhat irrelevant. season after season MOTD highlights that it is the lack of goals that sends teams down.
If its goals we need to stay up then unfortunately I don't think he is the man. Playing another role yes, but as an out an out goalscorer no, & his record says that he never has been.

As for the others they need a chance, constant swopping formation every game helps no one.
 

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