Mcburnie

[Chingo]

Match fitness is key , we are starting to see Berge get up to speed now and McB would play better with more minutes on the pitch instead of ten mins here and there , the thing is now though is we have to play Sharp and MGW and Ndaiye is in front of him … so his chances are going to be limited

 

[sufcboy95]

Boos at back of kop when Mcburnie came on was embarrassing

 

[BigBed]

Thought he did really well to get back to the dug out and changed so quickly after setting the flare off..

 

[originaltrueblade]

He came on the pitch and the only player not chasing anything down just wandered about

League One Player and we won’t recoup any money

 

[Varkanoid]

What made me laugh before the match SUTV showed some McB highlights and one was where he fell over on the floor for a free kick other player didnt touch him and ref gave the free kick.

 

[blades78]

Win 4 nil and we still need to find a scapegoat!!! Give it a rest, just enjoy the win and performance.

 

[bakeblade]

Boos at back of kop when Mcburnie came on was embarrassing

I didn’t BOO but I thought it was a ridiculous decision by Hecky to bring him on

 

[coolasanidiot]

Everybody wants MCB to fire up and get some goals, but he's just so flat footed and slow- of the 2 cameos we saw from McB and Jebbo- 1 looked like an athlete the other just didn't.

I think the only reason he gets any minutes is the money he cost, if we had paid nothing for him- we would never ever see him- nowhere near good enough.

 

[BladesOnToast]

I didn’t BOO but I thought it was a ridiculous decision by Hecky to bring him on

From one perspective it might actually have been the ideal situation to bring McB on for the same kind of reasons you'd expect him to bring an inexperienced youngster on - a chance to boost his confidence perhaps by picking up an easy goal against broken opposition. McB is inevitably going to see lots of game time in the coming months whatever your views on him, so we want him to score and feel confident and do well.

 

[Stuart mitchell]

Don't play mc'B and we'll get results.
SIMPLE

 

[Seth Rollins]

Everybody wants MCB to fire up and get some goals, but he's just so flat footed and slow- of the 2 cameos we saw from McB and Jebbo- 1 looked like an athlete the other just didn't.

I think the only reason he gets any minutes is the money he cost, if we had paid nothing for him- we would never ever see him- nowhere near good enough.

In that case then can we just pretend we signed him for free??

 

[Bladesman]

 

[Balham]

Stats like this annoy me. McBurnie has played 1,394 minutes in those league games. That's an average of 41 minutes per appearance. I'm not saying that going 15.5 league games without scoring is good but there is a little bit of context to be applied.

FWIW here's the minutes since last goal for those 5:

1 McBurnie 1,394 (15.5 games)
2 Campbell 1,152 (12.8 games)
3 Muskwe 1,137 (12.6 games)
4 Burke 1,040 (11.6 games)
5 Surridge 456 (5 games)

It's not just McBurnie adversely impacted by this misuse of stats: Surridge has made 2 starts since he scored against Barnsley. The other 16 appearances were off the bench and 7 of those were for less than 15 minutes. Hardly fair to chastise him for not scoring in those circumstances...and he's now at Forest on loan so he's nailed on to score on Friday

 

[DronnieBlade]

Stats like this annoy me. McBurnie has played 1,394 minutes in those league games. That's an average of 41 minutes per appearance. I'm not saying that going 15.5 league games without scoring is good but there is a little bit of context to be applied.

FWIW here's the minutes since last goal for those 5:

1 McBurnie 1,394 (15.5 games)
2 Campbell 1,152 (12.8 games)
3 Muskwe 1,137 (12.6 games)
4 Burke 1,040 (11.6 games)
5 Surridge 456 (5 games)

It's not just McBurnie adversely impacted by this misuse of stats: Surridge has made 2 starts since he scored against Barnsley. The other 16 appearances were off the bench and 7 of those were for less than 15 minutes. Hardly fair to chastise him for not scoring in those circumstances...and he's now at Forest on loan so he's nailed on to score on Friday

 

[jono_t2000]

Stats like this annoy me. McBurnie has played 1,394 minutes in those league games. That's an average of 41 minutes per appearance. I'm not saying that going 15.5 league games without scoring is good but there is a little bit of context to be applied.

FWIW here's the minutes since last goal for those 5:

1 McBurnie 1,394 (15.5 games)
2 Campbell 1,152 (12.8 games)
3 Muskwe 1,137 (12.6 games)
4 Burke 1,040 (11.6 games)
5 Surridge 456 (5 games)

It's not just McBurnie adversely impacted by this misuse of stats: Surridge has made 2 starts since he scored against Barnsley. The other 16 appearances were off the bench and 7 of those were for less than 15 minutes. Hardly fair to chastise him for not scoring in those circumstances...and he's now at Forest on loan so he's nailed on to score on Friday

1400 minutes without a goal (call it 15 games or 35 games who cares) is absolutely unexcusable no matter which way you look at it.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Stats like this annoy me. McBurnie has played 1,394 minutes in those league games. That's an average of 41 minutes per appearance. I'm not saying that going 15.5 league games without scoring is good but there is a little bit of context to be applied.

FWIW here's the minutes since last goal for those 5:

1 McBurnie 1,394 (15.5 games)
2 Campbell 1,152 (12.8 games)
3 Muskwe 1,137 (12.6 games)
4 Burke 1,040 (11.6 games)
5 Surridge 456 (5 games)

It's not just McBurnie adversely impacted by this misuse of stats: Surridge has made 2 starts since he scored against Barnsley. The other 16 appearances were off the bench and 7 of those were for less than 15 minutes. Hardly fair to chastise him for not scoring in those circumstances...and he's now at Forest on loan so he's nailed on to score on Friday

As above, whichever way you look at it's an appalling return for any striker let alone one that is being paid a great salary & cost the club £20m. A massive drain on resources.

I wouldn't mind, but it's not even like he's missing chances either. I was shocked (and delighted) to see him get on the end of one or two half opportunities against Blackburn because it's such a rarity. The guy offers nothing, not even a good attitude or workrate.

He still has time to pull it around and there is very (very!) occasional flashes of a good player. I just doubt so much that he's going to be a success here. He admitted himself that he's "been wank" for us and couldn't even think of his best game. That's fine to admit it, but to do nothing about it since is so poor. I cringe when our fans sing his name or when FallowfieldBlade hypes him up.

Seriously, what's his market value now? Like Burke, I think we'd be happy just to get him off the wage book at this point (if only we had some other fit strikers).

 

[bonobo]

I am even thinking we would have been better of keeping Burke and putting McPub on out loan. At least we would get something of an outlet on the field.

As above, whichever way you look at it's an appalling return for any striker let alone one that is being paid a great salary & cost the club £20m. A massive drain on resources.

I wouldn't mind, but it's not even like he's missing chances either. I was shocked (and delighted) to see him get on the end of one or two half opportunities against Blackburn because it's such a rarity. The guy offers nothing, not even a good attitude or workrate.

He still has time to pull it around and there is very (very!) occasional flashes of a good player. I just doubt so much that he's going to be a success here. He admitted himself that he's "been wank" for us and couldn't even think of his best game. That's fine to admit it, but to do nothing about it since is so poor. I cringe when our fans sing his name or when FallowfieldBlade hypes him up.

Seriously, what's his market value now? Like Burke, I think we'd be happy just to get him off the wage book at this point (if only we had some other fit strikers).

 

[Drunk blade]

I am even thinking we would have been better of keeping Burke and putting McPub on out loan. At least we would get something of an outlet on the field.

Got to agree, Burke had unbelievable pace which worried defenders and caused teams problems, mcburnie just seems to not really have any real attributes

 

[Balham]

Genuine revisionism going on here. Anyone who would rather have Burke than McBurnie fundamentally doesn't understand football.

It must be said that on current form that's like being asked whether you'd prefer to be punched in the face (McBurnie) or repeatedly kicked in the bollocks (Burke) but there's no contest if it's a straight choice.

 

[blade67]

This surely is just an extension of your campaign against Sharp, but sharp is clearly more dangerous and prolific isn't he, the bookies agree too, as he's always shorter odds, and they professionally have to get it right..

Mull over this one, in 109 appearances Bob Booker scored 13 goals, Oli Mcburnie currently has 7 in 77 so to break bookers goal tally OMB "the striker" will need 154 apperances, meaning at this rate it'll take mcburnie 6 years to equal what booker did in 3...(source - Wikipedia)

I still sing the catchy song, (which is becoming more ironic as time goes on) but these are the stats, hope they guide you as they have done me..

Start sharp when he's fit..

bloke behind me starting changing the words to

He's our striker he's our number 9,
couldn't score in a day or a night..........

 

[CaptainMorgans]

I am even thinking we would have been better of keeping Burke and putting McPub on out loan. At least we would get something of an outlet on the field.

I 100% would rather Oli Burke than Oli McBurnie. I'm a rare Oli Burke fan admittedly, but I really like him and think he got too much of a hard time here. Particularly given his workrate Vs McBurnie's.

 

[Balham]

bloke behind me starting changing the words to

He's our striker he's our number 9,
couldn't score in a day or a night..........

"He's our striker, he's our number nine
Been 'mostly wank' in the red and white
Twenty million when he came from Swansea
We'll get nowt when he goes back there on a free"

 

[blade67]

I 100% would rather Oli Burke than Oli McBurnie. I'm a rare Oli Burke fan admittedly, but I really like him and think he got too much of a hard time here. Particularly given his workrate Vs McBurnie's.

hes wank mate

 

[Maurice Maurice]

 

[fintious maximus]

What the actual fuck was that

 

[mattbianco1]

Match fitness is key , we are starting to see Berge get up to speed now and McB would play better with more minutes on the pitch instead of ten mins here and there , the thing is now though is we have to play Sharp and MGW and Ndaiye is in front of him … so his chances are going to be limited

This^^

McBurnie has only played 740 league minutes this season. That's equivalent to 8 games.

We saw Brewster starting to come good after a few starts.
Bogle grew and grew after Baldock was injured.
And you mentioned Berge too.

For me though. McBurnie is a challenger for Sharps spot, not a partner for him

 

[originaltrueblade]

This^^

McBurnie has only played 740 league minutes this season. That's equivalent to 8 games.

We saw Brewster starting to come good after a few starts.
Bogle grew and grew after Baldock was injured.
And you mentioned Berge too.

For me though. McBurnie is a challenger for Sharps spot, not a partner for him

McBurnie is just not good enough let’s be totally honest he’s a league one player at best. He won’t come good as long as he’s got a hole in his arse. Sell him In the summer but I bet no one wants him. Even Wilder never came in for him in the January transfer window because he know he messed up signing him for us in the first place.
If we can’t sell him give him to a League one side just get him off the wage bill.
Signing him was a dreadful mistake.

As for a challenger to Sharp are you on drugs

 

[Houston_Blade]

This^^

McBurnie has only played 740 league minutes this season. That's equivalent to 8 games.

We saw Brewster starting to come good after a few starts.
Bogle grew and grew after Baldock was injured.
And you mentioned Berge too.

For me though. McBurnie is a challenger for Sharps spot, not a partner for him

The problem with McBurnie is that he looks terrible when he starts and half decent at shithousing and defending corners when he comes off the bench. That's not £17m worth of player in my view.

I get the point about him needing game time, but how many games do we accept a 'nil' in our score column before you sack it off and stick with the 36 year old who works harder, sets goals up and actually scores?!

 

[mattbianco1]

As for a challenger to Sharp are you on drugs

Far from it.

They want to play the same type of game.

McBurnie would be better with Ndiaye and/or MGW playing off him, as Sharp has done. They are similar type players in that they want to be involved in the build-up and want chances in and around the 6 yard box. Playing him alongside Sharp is counter-productive.

People think (Wilder too) that because he's tall, he's a target man. He's definitely not.

He could partner Brewster well, but not Sharp

 

[mattbianco1]

The problem with McBurnie is that he looks terrible when he starts

He doesn't though. People are judging him purely on the lack of goals. I could understand it if he was giving the ball away every time it came to him, but he's not.

I get that he's a striker paid to score goals, and they will come the more games he plays.

The problem I see currently is that we are trying to shoehorn him in to build up his fitness and confidence, but it doesn't work alongside Sharp. And unfortunately, we can't drop Sharp.