Maybe he wasn’t one of our own after all?

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Tezza1889 said:
He didn't suff it in his pockets and run, quite the opposite, hence the late breaking story that he was still manager late into the evening.

Apparently at the death he's said keep the money, drop the DOF from the table and I stay...

PA is having a DOF, so the lma advised wilder to take the money while it was a still on the table...

The DOF was a deal breaker quite literally, and sticking to "the plan" as wilder had said (wilder picks and signs players) hasn't happened.

Hence the payoff.. Nobody was sacked, but the contract he had the Prince wanted to break.. Mutual agreement wilder will not have a player bought for him.. He was always clear on that from day one.
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Not having a dig at all but where did you get all this info?
Out of interest, on the basis that is true, what started this all off on Friday morning?
 



WeAreBlades1889 said:
Again...another emotional response.
All feelings and no logic.
Yes, he got us to the highest level
Yes, it was incredible that he was a Blade himself
But, he's embarrassed us all this season with his attitude in interviews
He's embarrassed us with HIS teams performances (played all the same team that got us here remember).
II's like having a child who is brilliant all through school, then college, then gets a place at OxBridge. It turns out he's not good enough to be at OxBridge, so quits and starts to commit minor crime, which starts to disappointment you, but you still love them as they're 'One of your Own'. They continue the downward spiral with mood swings and bad attitude, but you still love them as 'One of your Own'. The child then let's all the family down by committing the worst crime imaginable (this being us losing week in week out and the players he brought in being toss, not about Wilder touching a kid 😳). The family then decides thay although they still love the child...it's for the best that they let them go, as they can't see a way this cam change.
The decision has been taken between both parties - Mutual Decision. That means Chris decided to leave with agreement from the Prince.
Get over it and move on!
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Wow! Quite an imagination, that's one of the worst analogies I've ever heard. Please take a break yourself, you need it.
 
Despite loving what he's done for us and admiring everything about him and how he went about things up until this season, I've always got the impression that he's a bit of a cunt.

If anything, it made me love him even more, but it did always feel like it was a matter of time before it kicked off.
 
Hamburg Blade said:
Shit, biased bollocks isn't excused by "it's the same on both sides". I called out one load of bollocks and don't have to balance that with what others have said elsewhere.
You present yourself as being reasonable and wanting reasonable debate, but started your debate with a load of concocted nonsense, speculation and unfounded accusation. If you can't see that, then you'll carry on getting the sort of reaction to your posts that you don't seem to understand.
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You seem to be easily triggered.
Maybe lay off the oestrogen for a little while.
 
It does make me wonder if in some of the heated discussions he has supposedly had with the board that the board have said they don't want wilder to go but changes are needed to go forward and want a DOF, wilder wouldn't accept that and eventually if the board insisted then being the proud man he is reluctantly left, just my feelings on it.

I think the Prince comes across as a good bloke who genuinely wants the best for the club, but, like running the country you have to make decisions that some people like and some don't but you are in the position of making decisions so you have to get on with it or leave and pass the baton on to the next person.

Easy job and most like you when it's going well, when it's starts to go the other way.....
 
FallowfieldBlade said:
You can believe that CW is a legend and our greatest manager ever

At the same time you can also believe that he has acted like a spoilt brat and thrown his toys out the pram after an awful season where he has presided over one of the worst prem season in history , spaffed £60 Mill up the wall whilst refusing any help regarding transfers while trying to resign multiple times and get his self sacked at every press conference


You are allowed to have both of those opinions
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One of the best posts I've seen on here.

'Two things can be true at the same time'.
 
WeAreBlades1889 said:
Completely irrelevant.
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If you find Wilder telling it like it is embarrassing then I feel for you.

I never thought I'd miss the "toe to toe", "going out the back door" or "this football club" comments so much until I heard Heckingbottom yesterday.
 
Bladeulike said:
Ok, I tried
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You really didn't. You jumped in to defend a poster claiming that Wilder engineered a payoff by sabotaging the football matches he was in charge of and made out that you're only after reasonable debate after starting the thread with gems such as not so tough after all eh Chris? Glad you could take your lucrative option and claiming his decision to leave was solely based on pride and ego. Claiming some kind of high ground makes you look a bit silly.
 
Cascarino is Christopher's mate ,so his view is always going to come down on side of wilder ...
 
Robboblade1889 said:
The biggest sack of shit I’ve ever read on his platform. I’m not even going to bother answering any of the bilge if I am honest. What I will say is come back to this in 6/12 months.
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I'm enjoying the "if he loves the club so much why did he take that pay out?"

Contracts matter
Money matters
He was entitled to it, that's how contract law works.
The PFA/Other managers would have killed him if he took less than he was entitled to

I'm also assuming the same people will willingly pay double for their season tickets 😂😂

People need to grow up ffs
 



derekacorah said:
For anyone who is embarrassed by Wilder's interviews this season I implore you to try and find some of Warnock's from the relegation season. That was true embarrassment.
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Yep, that really was a masterclass in petulance and blame shifting
 
I believe wilder should have been given the chance to sort this mess out next season. Unfortunately he's gone, I'm gutted ...
We have to move forward as one now
 
Nine Inch said - "There seems to be an implication here that he left Bramall Lane laughing all the way to the bank, having screwed us for every penny. As far as I'm concerned, that's a grossly unfair mischaracterisation of the man, and an unfounded one at that."

I have not read every post since last week on this forum so I have not seen anyone say this.
If they have, then one wonders what they are up to and what they are trying to achieve as they do not have the club's interests at heart.
After the last 5 years, in particular the first 4, I seriously doubt any true fan of United would be thinking that, let alone saying it.

Whatever has happened over the weekend, leading to CW leaving, we deserve far better than the club's bland, meaningless statement of Saturday night and Bettis' woeful showing.

The atmosphere on here at times is toxic. On the assumption that we are all Blades, there is no call for that. We are all entitled to our views, however, much others disagree with or dislike them. Quite why anyone should feel entitled to give someone else flak when they have no no more knowledge or insight of what happened is utterly beyond me. However, they obviously do.

It is too late to nip this in the bud. But the club need to address this as soon as possible and honestly.
 
derekacorah said:
If you find Wilder telling it like it is embarrassing then I feel for you.

I never thought I'd miss the "toe to toe", "going out the back door" or "this football club" comments so much until I heard Heckingbottom yesterday.
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Take off those rose tinted glasses and listen to some of the pre and post press conferences he gave.
Uninspiring
Downbeat
Defeatist
It's not being anti Wilder to question what changed from last season to this. It almost seemed as if the players lost faith in Wilder's abilities as a manager and gave up.
How can we go from a team pushing for Europe, to a team who is the laughing stock of the league.
Wilder always said we're here to compete and would always have a go at teams, but everything he did this season contradicts this.
Do you believe he did nothing wrong?
 
1danewhitehouse said:
He very much was/ is. CW will be absolutely devastated to leave the club. Victim of a hatchet job. If you choose to believe the words of that snake Jim Phipps over those of the best manager we've ever had who has always loved this club every bit as much as the rest of us, you need to give your head a wobble.

Maybe some people choose to believe it's Wilder's fault because it makes it easier to continue to support the club now he's gone. I know what these cowboys have done to our club and can't continue to give them my backing. I urge all blades to joint the boycott/ protests until we can get the scum out of our club (yes it hurts to do it, but it's a worthwhile cause).
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The board might well have reneged on promises, and might well not have put in as much money as some would have liked.

That said, they didn't pick the pedestrian-at-best Lundstram every week. They didn't continue with the same tactics, despite the fact that they clearly weren't working. They didn't fight to bring Lowe into the squad, only for him to be a bit-part player. They didn't make baffling substitutions. They didn't come out after every match and say that we couldn't compete (despite doing the polar opposite last season).

Blame the board all you like, and clearly they're not entirely blameless, but neither is CW, whether he's one of our own or not. No one is coming out of this looking good.
 
Hamburg Blade said:
Normally I don't take any notice of newbies who've just signed up to troll, but your post was so mind-numbingly stupid it was such a tap in I couldn't resist.
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Stop taking things to heart and learn to respect other people's opinions.
Some people are angry at the Prince, some people are angry at Wilder, so people are angry at both.
Just because you've been around a while, doesn't make you correct.
 
WeAreBlades1889 said:
Stop taking things to heart and learn to respect other people's opinions.
Some people are angry at the Prince, some people are angry at Wilder, so people are angry at both.
Just because you've been around a while, doesn't make you correct.
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Explain how labelling people "fanboys" is respecting other people's opinions.
 
WeAreBlades1889 said:
Stop taking things to heart and learn to respect other people's opinions.
Some people are angry at the Prince, some people are angry at Wilder, so people are angry at both.
Just because you've been around a while, doesn't make you correct.
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I don't see how any of us can know what correct is without being in the loop.

The extremes seem to be that Wilder is a petulant child walking off into the sunset with more cash than Scrooge McDuck, or that The Prince has forced him out and is too focused with buying other clubs and turning into some sort of Aldi Bond Villain.

We don't know, we never will. Such is life
 
WeAreBlades1889 said:
Take off those rose tinted glasses and listen to some of the pre and post press conferences he gave.
Uninspiring
Downbeat
Defeatist
It's not being anti Wilder to question what changed from last season to this. It almost seemed as if the players lost faith in Wilder's abilities as a manager and gave up.
How can we go from a team pushing for Europe, to a team who is the laughing stock of the league.
Wilder always said we're here to compete and would always have a go at teams, but everything he did this season contradicts this.
Do you believe he did nothing wrong?
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He's undoubtedly changed and is definitely not without faults. I do think though that there are many factors as to why we've gone from decent to shit post-lockdown and they've been covered numerous times by numerous people.

The main ones that people seem to be using to beat him with are his signings (this season's haven't been very good apart from Bogle and controversially Ramsdale), last season Mousset and McBurnie covered their wages and amortisation with the goals scored, this season they haven't. Also his lack of willingness to change the players/system when we have been poor. Both are valid criticisms, but I'd rather have him in charge than any of the alternatives suggested so far.

We never lost 5 nil under Wilder and in my opinion never would have.
 
I’m very sorry to see Chris go.
But not surprised he’s no longer our manager.

Fan head on or not - he’s delivered so much for the club since he arrived. Accelerated performance, got us playing exciting football & got us incredible results, united (pun intended) the club & the fans, recruited well & delivered hugely increased income in a period we probably got further faster than anyone predicted.
Until June 2020.
Since then, it’s all slid downhill sadly. Yes, we’ve had an awful series of injuries to key players.
But even so, it’s all seemed a bit stale, he’s seemed to have a fixation on 3-5-2 despite results & performances all heading in the wrong direction. He’s spent big on transfers & they’ve not paid off.
This has frustrated him & the board & it seems (from what I’ve read) that they wanted to bring in a D-O-F so he could concentrate on the football-side. Yet it appears he’s been reluctant to do that. That’s clearly a principle of his.
When things are going well, the job seems easy. When they’re not going well, it’s far from easy & it all gets too big & unsustainable.
Past performance doesn’t count for much in football. So faced with a manager who it seems was struggling to do the job & get the results, yet who was also unwilling to work in line with the board’s wishes, difficult decisions need to be made.
It’s a shame. A real shame. Though all rather inevitable.
Sacked or walked? I think the ‘mutual’ term sounds OK. Recognise where he’s got the club to but also acknowledge that “what got us here won’t get us there” & part company.
We may never know how hard both sides worked to find a good solution - though maybe we have to accept this was it.
Whatever your views, it’s been a golden period for us Blades thanks to Chris.
Let’s hope what comes next comes close or even surpasses it. Only time will tell.
UTB’s
 



The Crab said:
I don't see how any of us can know what correct is without being in the loop.

The extremes seem to be that Wilder is a petulant child walking off into the sunset with more cash than Scrooge McDuck, or that The Prince has forced him out and is too focused with buying other clubs and turning into some sort of Aldi Bond Villain.

We don't know, we never will. Such is life
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This, exactly this.

And it always makes me laugh when anyone presents their opinions as facts whilst shutting down other peoples' opinions because they couldn't possibly understand. There's far too many people like that on both sides of the debate here.

I'm fairly sure there's blame to be apportioned to all parties, just as there is when there's any falling out.
 
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