Maybe he wasn’t one of our own after all?

[BlairBlade]

A million percent. Im finding it totally bizarre people refuse to try and add up the dots, and instead feel more comfortable with wilder spat dummy out and walked.

You dont get a pay off for that lads.

Who says he got a pay off?
He would certainly (well almost certainly) get one if he was sacked.
But he wasn’t sacked.

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

A million percent. Im finding it totally bizarre people refuse to try and add up the dots, and instead feel more comfortable with wilder spat dummy out and walked.

You dont get a pay off for that lads.

Yes you do you dont know the terms of the contract nobody does

 

[1danewhitehouse]

What an awful end to a glorious 5 years.

He very much was/ is. CW will be absolutely devastated to leave the club. Victim of a hatchet job. If you choose to believe the words of that snake Jim Phipps over those of the best manager we've ever had who has always loved this club every bit as much as the rest of us, you need to give your head a wobble.

Maybe some people choose to believe it's Wilder's fault because it makes it easier to continue to support the club now he's gone. I know what these cowboys have done to our club and can't continue to give them my backing. I urge all blades to joint the boycott/ protests until we can get the scum out of our club (yes it hurts to do it, but it's a worthwhile cause).

 

[BlairBlade]

I can tell you categorically that’s bullshit. The mud slinging has already started. People have to understand that Chris Wilder wore his heart on his sleeve he didn’t play games he literally told us the craic in press conferences. There are some snidey bastards at the club feeding falsehoods to the press and it’s complete bollocks. It’s now a PR exercise to taint Chris Wilder and make out it wasn’t us guv it was all him. It is being done in a subtle way through the media.
This is going to get extremely messy, can’t believe what’s gone on if I am honest it’s an absolute joke.

Where in the media are we being fed this subtle stuff?

 

[Robboblade1889]

Where in the media are we being fed this subtle stuff?

Well for a start is you think Chris Wilder got a £7m payout your in cloud cookoo land. Also you seem adamant it was Chris Wilder who walked. That’s funny how many people do you hear resign get paid anything never mind £7m.
The goal posts have been moved the owners don’t have any money they maximum input from minimum outlay. They have spent some of the PL money when I say some I mean not even half. If you think we paid 24m for Brewster and 18m for Ramsdale again you are living in cloud cookoo land. The devil is in the detail and if you listen to interview done by puppets wheeled out by the club, the caretaker manager yesterday, the captain yesterday it will start to make sense to most people.
I really hope you stick around on the forum in the next 12 months I can’t wait to see you defend the shit storm that’s going to come from this.

 

[Robboblade1889]

Wasn’t the first shit thread you made enough you had to start another one. What is your game fill the board with the same bullshit. Why did you feel the need to make two threads saying the same shit? It feels like there are suddenly posters popping up with this shit. Tell you what pal he’s more one of us than you will ever be.

 

[Bladesman]

It seems the emotional fanboys are out in force again.
The facts are that Chris engineered his way out of the club with a payoff, although not as substantial as he would have liked.
It is quite clear to those who can control their emotions that Wilder was acting like a petulant kid when he wasn't getting his own way!
The board have evert right to talk about bringing in a DOF, as his signings since we got promoted (and a lot before that) have been appalling. He has wasted millions and he didn't deserve to spend a penny more.
Chris said he didn't want to risk the financial stability of the club, so he can't moan about paying higher wages. Maybe the Chairman wanted us to have a similar plan to Norwich. Yo yo for a few years, but live within our means and build year on year.
At the end of the day, Chris presided over one of the worst runs in history and made us the second worst team to ever compete in the Premiership.
Questions to the Wilder fanboys:
Why did Chris refuse to change our formation when we were getting beat week after week and where was this tactical genius' plan B?
Why did Chris keep playing Lundstram, when he wouldn't commit? Duffy was thrown out for a similar reason.
Why did Chris come across as downbeat and uninspiring in interview after interview, throughout the season?
Why did he buy players and not play to their strengths?
The answer overall is that he orchestrated his way out of the club, knew he couldn't save us from the drop and wanted the sack, so that he could get a substantial pay out. Thr Prince wouldn't play ball, so a compromise has been reached.
Chris has now left us with an aging first team squad and a load of players who are probably league 1 level at best.
What has happened has happened.
We shouldn't cry for a man who no longer represents us, so we move forward as a club.

Chris contradicted himself a bit this season. Hailing the best transfer window ever one minute and then doubling down on being responsible for Brewster signing later on in the season.

If Chris was that pissed off prior to this season why not go sooner then? Why drag us through all this bollocks with things getting more and toxic behind the scenes and eventually in the public press conferences. I hear he got convinced to stay on more than one occasion but if nothing was going to stop these changes being made why stay.

 

[Bladeulike]

Wasn’t the first shit thread you made enough you had to start another one. What is your game fill the board with the same bullshit. Why did you feel the need to make two threads saying the same shit? It feels like there are suddenly posters popping up with this shit. Tell you what pal he’s more one of us than you will ever be.

Before you launch into yet another tirade of abusive comments, this was the same thread I tried to post yesterday but the thing froze as I was writing it and I thought it had simply gone so I reposted. So no, I am not trying to ‘fill the board with the same bullshit’ it was a genuine mistake. If I knew how to delete I would. But please don’t let that stop you continuing to throw abuse....

 

[Houston_Blade]

Me as a blade would work for this club under any restraints demands what ever. I always feel no professional player/manager really has the love and passion for a club that the fans do.

If you were a PL manager for the Blades you’d want the pay and conditions that go with being a PL manager. The novelty might be there at first and they’d get you on the cheap, but after a while you’d get pissed off. I don’t buy into the “I’d do the job for love” line. I wouldn’t do any job for less than what it’s worth.

 

[Hamburg Blade]

It seems the emotional fanboys are out in force again.
The facts are that Chris engineered his way out of the club with a payoff, although not as substantial as he would have liked.

Fuck me, you don't have to read further than that. A fact? Do you actually understand what a fact is? "engineered" it all.... what utter bollocks.
It now seems that wanting a manager to stay who single-handedly saved the club from obscurity and propelled it to its best season anyone can remember is being a "fanboy".
What a stinking cesspit this forum has become this season.

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

He very much was/ is. CW will be absolutely devastated to leave the club. Victim of a hatchet job. If you choose to believe the words of that snake Jim Phipps over those of the best manager we've ever had who has always loved this club every bit as much as the rest of us, you need to give your head a wobble.

Maybe some people choose to believe it's Wilder's fault because it makes it easier to continue to support the club now he's gone. I know what these cowboys have done to our club and can't continue to give them my backing. I urge all blades to joint the boycott/ protests until we can get the scum out of our club (yes it hurts to do it, but it's a worthwhile cause).

You can believe that CW is a legend and our greatest manager ever

At the same time you can also believe that he has acted like a spoilt brat and thrown his toys out the pram after an awful season where he has presided over one of the worst prem season in history , spaffed £60 Mill up the wall whilst refusing any help regarding transfers while trying to resign multiple times and get his self sacked at every press conference


You are allowed to have both of those opinions

 

[Minty]

Before you launch into yet another tirade of abusive comments, this was the same thread I tried to post yesterday but the thing froze as I was writing it and I thought it had simply gone so I reposted. So no, I am not trying to ‘fill the board with the same bullshit’ it was a genuine mistake. If I knew how to delete I would. But please don’t let that stop you continuing to throw abuse....

Still a fucking shit post though, no matter how many times you post it.

 

[BlairBlade]

Well for a start is you think Chris Wilder got a £7m payout your in cloud cookoo land. Also you seem adamant it was Chris Wilder who walked. That’s funny how many people do you hear resign get paid anything never mind £7m.
The goal posts have been moved the owners don’t have any money they maximum input from minimum outlay. They have spent some of the PL money when I say some I mean not even half. If you think we paid 24m for Brewster and 18m for Ramsdale again you are living in cloud cookoo land. The devil is in the detail and if you listen to interview done by puppets wheeled out by the club, the caretaker manager yesterday, the captain yesterday it will start to make sense to most people.
I really hope you stick around on the forum in the next 12 months I can’t wait to see you defend the shit storm that’s going to come from this.

I don’t think nor have I ever said he received £7m that was suggested on another forum, NewsNow, I think. I simply mentioned it as it is a fucking huge amount of money.
It is just part of the utter nonsense we have heard since Friday - unless of course it is true.
But you seem to know the truth and nothing but the truth unlike so many others who post on this board. Quite how I have no idea but I am sure you will take great delight in enlightening me.
For my part I think CW wanted out.
I don’t think he was sacked.
I can see a deal would be done between him and the board hence why it took 36 hours or so to sort it out.
We obviously disagree - big time - but if you want to take a swipe at me get your facts right and do not misinterpret or twist what I have said.
God knows why you think you have the right to the moral high ground in all of this and anyone who doesn’t agree with your very selective view lives in an imaginary world is unbelievable.
Sheffield United is my team as much as it is anyone’s.
I am sorry CW has gone but I think he had worn himself out and he had had enough.
I do not support Wilder United above all else.
Barring falling foul of Covid, sepsis and any other alarming things I have every intention of sticking around.
So the shit show is coming? From where, supporters like you?
Great.
Stay in touch.
The truth is out there.

 

[scouseblade]

I will tell you a fact. Wilder has left.
I will tell you what we don't know because it has not been disclosed - was he pushed or jumped. Mutual consent is like "undisclosed" with a transfer fee.
We don't know what pay off he has got. He might have got £0 however I think if he has been pushed they will pay for his silence (initially) with an NDA. These are not for life and sooner or later the truth will emerge. But I am speculating there because who knows - only Wilder and the board.
Whether the crisis is born out of Wilder making poor signings (again subjective not objective) or whether the board wanted a different direction is totally at present, whataboutery. We don't know what has gone on behind the scenes. All we know is we are bottom of the league, have a lot of injuries and brought in some questionable signings. Wilder has worked miracles in 4 years, perhaps his magic has just worn off.
However to sit on a forum like this and slag each other off, Wilder off, PA off, when really NO ONE KNOWS the full story!!
Lets get behind the team for 9 more league games. Then we can reflect in the summer. The players need our support more than ever.

 

[WeAreBlades1889]

Fuck me, you don't have to read further than that. A fact? Do you actually understand what a fact is? "engineered" it all.... what utter bollocks.
It now seems that wanting a manager to stay who single-handedly saved the club from obscurity and propelled it to its best season anyone can remember is being a "fanboy".
What a stinking cesspit this forum has become this season.

Again...another emotional response.
All feelings and no logic.
Yes, he got us to the highest level
Yes, it was incredible that he was a Blade himself
But, he's embarrassed us all this season with his attitude in interviews
He's embarrassed us with HIS teams performances (played all the same team that got us here remember).
II's like having a child who is brilliant all through school, then college, then gets a place at OxBridge. It turns out he's not good enough to be at OxBridge, so quits and starts to commit minor crime, which starts to disappointment you, but you still love them as they're 'One of your Own'. They continue the downward spiral with mood swings and bad attitude, but you still love them as 'One of your Own'. The child then let's all the family down by committing the worst crime imaginable (this being us losing week in week out and the players he brought in being toss, not about Wilder touching a kid ). The family then decides thay although they still love the child...it's for the best that they let them go, as they can't see a way this cam change.
The decision has been taken between both parties - Mutual Decision. That means Chris decided to leave with agreement from the Prince.
Get over it and move on!

 

[The Crab]

I think they wheeled out Bettis because he's the CEO and it's his job.

Who talked a lot and said nowt.

It would have been just as productive if they had just stuck a Drinking Bird in front of the Mic, actually they could have doubled up and sent the Bird down to Leicester to do the tactics, then stuck in on instead of Moose

 

[Scarebus]

Who talked a lot and said nowt.

It would have been just as productive if they had just stuck a Drinking Bird in front of the Mic, actually they could have doubled up and sent the Bird down to Leicester to do the tactics, then stuck in on instead of Moose

I certainly wasn't passing comment on the quality of the press conference, just a statement of cold hard fact.

 

[The Crab]

I certainly wasn't passing comment on the quality of the press conference, just a statement of cold hard fact.

Apologies mate if I implied that, not my intention.

Maybe the Prince was too busy to Zoom something in, after all it was only one of the most important days in the clubs history. Maybe he was busy buying another club for the "United World" portfolio. I can't wait until we are big in Azerbaijan because we have bought a team in their 2nd division

 

[ISZA ⚔️]

He didn't suff it in his pockets and run, quite the opposite, hence the late breaking story that he was still manager late into the evening.

Apparently at the death he's said keep the money, drop the DOF from the table and I stay...

PA is having a DOF, so the lma advised wilder to take the money while it was a still on the table...

The DOF was a deal breaker quite literally, and sticking to "the plan" as wilder had said (wilder picks and signs players) hasn't happened.

Hence the payoff.. Nobody was sacked, but the contract he had the Prince wanted to break.. Mutual agreement wilder will not have a player bought for him.. He was always clear on that from day one.

The signing of Sander Berge is a strange one and would seem to contradict that to some extent.

 

[Hamburg Blade]

Again...another emotional response.
All feelings and no logic.
Yes, he got us to the highest level
Yes, it was incredible that he was a Blade himself
But, he's embarrassed us all this season with his attitude in interviews
He's embarrassed us with HIS teams performances (played all the same team that got us here remember).
II's like having a child who is brilliant all through school, then college, then gets a place at OxBridge. It turns out he's not good enough to be at OxBridge, so quits and starts to commit minor crime, which starts to disappointment you, but you still love them as they're 'One of your Own'. They continue the downward spiral with mood swings and bad attitude, but you still love them as 'One of your Own'. The child then let's all the family down by committing the worst crime imaginable (this being us losing week in week out and the players he brought in being toss, not about Wilder touching a kid ). The family then decides thay although they still love the child...it's for the best that they let them go, as they can't see a way this cam change.
The decision has been taken between both parties - Mutual Decision. That means Chris decided to leave with agreement from the Prince.
Get over it and move on!

You stated unfounded speculation as fact and now try and take the high ground of "logic over emotion" - you haven't got a clue.
Labelling people as "fanboys" is as emotional and childish as anything you're trying to highlight in someone else.
The only thing I've been embarrassed by this season is the reaction of some of our "supporters" who can't deal with losing or being unable to cut it in the PL despite everything on paper saying we wouldn't be able to. We treat every manager we've ever had with disdain and contempt, how quickly the knives came out for our best manager yet is the true embarrassment in all this.

 

[diplomat]

He very much was/ is. CW will be absolutely devastated to leave the club. Victim of a hatchet job. If you choose to believe the words of that snake Jim Phipps over those of the best manager we've ever had who has always loved this club every bit as much as the rest of us, you need to give your head a wobble.

Maybe some people choose to believe it's Wilder's fault because it makes it easier to continue to support the club now he's gone. I know what these cowboys have done to our club and can't continue to give them my backing. I urge all blades to joint the boycott/ protests until we can get the scum out of our club (yes it hurts to do it, but it's a worthwhile cause).

Could you paraphrase what Phipps has said please?

 

[Houston_Blade]

Could you paraphrase what Phipps has said please?

Imagine a picture of a man licking another man's arsehole. That's it.

 

[Bladeulike]

You stated unfounded speculation as fact and now try and take the high ground of "logic over emotion" - you haven't got a clue.
Labelling people as "fanboys" is as emotional and childish as anything you're trying to highlight in someone else.
The only thing I've been embarrassed by this season is the reaction of some of our "supporters" who can't deal with losing or being unable to cut it in the PL despite everything on paper saying we wouldn't be able to. We treat every manager we've ever had with disdain and contempt, how quickly the knives came out for our best manager yet is the true embarrassment in all this.

But it’s the same on both sides (and I really don’t want it to be polarised into different camps). I’m being accused of ‘Wilder is more one of us than you will ever be’ on this thread which is also emotional and childish. So let’s have a reasonable debate. I concur with everything you say about Wilder being the best manager we ever had. No argument about that from me. I said in the OP that I genuinely wish him well for the future. I also hold the view that his statement of ‘I came in through the front door and will go out through the front door’ was not upheld when the chips were down and I am pissed off with him in the timing and manner he left. I can hold both those views and they aren’t incompatible. Neither of them measure the extent of my ‘Bladeyness’ and the debate disintegrates as soon as generalisations like that are made. I don’t think the knives are out for Wilder at all. He presided over some of our best times but really it has all gone to shit this season and he’s the manager and takes a good deal of responsibility. I get the point about not being able to pay Prem level salaries but there was a lot more wrong this season than that (recruitment, refusal to change the system, constantly picking out of form players etc). I think his departure hasn’t allowed for a proper appraisal of what went wrong because he was such an integral part of the culture of the club and could and should have contributed to that in my view. Instead we just have an NDA and end of story (and truth).

There’s genuine, valid criticism that could and and should be levelled at any manager who is earning massive wages without it being called out as some form of heresy. There’s also genuine, valid criticism that could and should be levelled at the Board for not sorting this out before he walked (or was pushed, whatever). The examination of the Board will come in the weeks and months ahead, of that I have no doubt. But it’s Wilder who has just gone, suddenly, and talk is naturally on him and about him and speculation is rife because the NDA will never reveal the full truth. Sadly it will all be next week’s chip paper and we will move on with whatever is the next chapter of the Blades’ sad saga.

I know you don’t agree with me and you feel that he deserves better. I accept that but it isn’t ‘embarrassing’ to debate it and debate it hotly because football is a passionate game. We don’t have to abuse (in fairness you haven’t done that) or pigeon hole each other. It’s a cataclysmic event in the life of the Blades let’s at least get it out there without having to wear tin hats

 

[Bladeloyal]

I can tell you categorically that’s bullshit. The mud slinging has already started. People have to understand that Chris Wilder wore his heart on his sleeve he didn’t play games he literally told us the craic in press conferences. There are some snidey bastards at the club feeding falsehoods to the press and it’s complete bollocks. It’s now a PR exercise to taint Chris Wilder and make out it wasn’t us guv it was all him. It is being done in a subtle way through the media.
This is going to get extremely messy, can’t believe what’s gone on if I am honest it’s an absolute joke.

Plenty of spin going off on both sides we will find ,best to look down the middle for the truth

 

[T-Blade]

What an awful end to a glorious 5 years.

we don’t know what really happened behind the scenes but we do know how we as supporters feel now and, for me, it is a sense of betrayal.

The fist pumping, shirt thumping, pitch sliding Chris Wilder that so captured and embodied the Blades’ fans passion ultimately ended up walking out the back door as we witnessed today the shambles of a team he leaves behind and that have become such an absolute embarrassment. I will never forget the fabulous times that Chris Wilder gave us and doubt that any other manager could have given us the same. He was truly one of our own but I’m wondering why, if he was one of our own, he would stuff his pockets with 7 million quid and bugger off into the sunset in this manner? I’m sure he will be alright Jack but we collectively won’t be as a fan base. It’s going to take some time to build up trust again. We strongly expressed our views that we wanted him to stay, that we would get over the disappointment, that we would rise again and give him and the team another chance in the Championship and that we would be with him roaring the Blades on for promotion and in pressing the Board for better support. When the chips were down we were more than ready to support one of our own and get through it together. Chris Wilder loved and milked the success as we all did but the test of a person is their ability to tough it out through the hard times. Not so tough after all eh Chris? Glad you could take your lucrative option - sadly as fans we don’t have that choice

I understand the differences were maybe irreconcilable with the Board and a departure was perhaps inevitable. Chris had enough credit in the bank to at least insist on seeing out the season and make a dignified departure in the summer. I watched today’s performance in despair and simply don’t understand that the first person out of the sinking ship was the one who played such a significant role in holing us beneath the waterline in the first place.

We have suffered worse in the history of this club but for me maybe no departure as painful as this one in its manner and execution. One of our own would have given the fans more consideration and respect. Most of us don’t have the luxury of walking away when we disagree with our employer. Most of us don’t earn multi million pounds a year. I just think that when you earn the stratospheric salaries such as those of Prem league managers you actually can make choices that are not solely based on pride and ego.

I wish you well Chris Wilder and genuinely hope you career continues your success story. Spare a thought for those of us who remain and crawl our way through the detritus of this remainder of this season. Would have been good to have said a proper goodbye.

Exactly how I feel.

 

[Big Hitter]

Exactly how I feel.

Where 's this £7 m come from.?

 

[Hamburg Blade]

But it’s the same on both sides (and I really don’t want it to be polarised into different camps). I’m being accused of ‘Wilder is more one of us than you will ever be’ on this thread which is also emotional and childish. So let’s have a reasonable debate. I concur with everything you say about Wilder being the best manager we ever had. No argument about that from me. I said in the OP that I genuinely wish him well for the future. I also hold the view that his statement of ‘I came in through the front door and will go out through the front door’ was not upheld when the chips were down and I am pissed off with him in the timing and manner he left. I can hold both those views and they aren’t incompatible. Neither of them measure the extent of my ‘Bladeyness’ and the debate disintegrates as soon as generalisations like that are made. I don’t think the knives are out for Wilder at all. He presided over some of our best times but really it has all gone to shit this season and he’s the manager and takes a good deal of responsibility. I get the point about not being able to pay Prem level salaries but there was a lot more wrong this season than that (recruitment, refusal to change the system, constantly picking out of form players etc). I think his departure hasn’t allowed for a proper appraisal of what went wrong because he was such an integral part of the culture of the club and could and should have contributed to that in my view. Instead we just have an NDA and end of story (and truth).

There’s genuine, valid criticism that could and and should be levelled at any manager who is earning massive wages without it being called out as some form of heresy. There’s also genuine, valid criticism that could and should be levelled at the Board for not sorting this out before he walked (or was pushed, whatever). The examination of the Board will come in the weeks and months ahead, of that I have no doubt. But it’s Wilder who has just gone, suddenly, and talk is naturally on him and about him and speculation is rife because the NDA will never reveal the full truth. Sadly it will all be next week’s chip paper and we will move on with whatever is the next chapter of the Blades’ sad saga.

I know you don’t agree with me and you feel that he deserves better. I accept that but it isn’t ‘embarrassing’ to debate it and debate it hotly because football is a passionate game. We don’t have to abuse (in fairness you haven’t done that) or pigeon hole each other. It’s a cataclysmic event in the life of the Blades let’s at least get it out there without having to wear tin hats

Shit, biased bollocks isn't excused by "it's the same on both sides". I called out one load of bollocks and don't have to balance that with what others have said elsewhere.
You present yourself as being reasonable and wanting reasonable debate, but started your debate with a load of concocted nonsense, speculation and unfounded accusation. If you can't see that, then you'll carry on getting the sort of reaction to your posts that you don't seem to understand.

 

[Houston_Blade]

But, he's embarrassed us all this season with his attitude in interviews

For anyone who is embarrassed by Wilder's interviews this season I implore you to try and find some of Warnock's from the relegation season. That was true embarrassment.

 

[Bladeulike]

Shit, biased bollocks isn't excused by "it's the same on both sides". I called out one load of bollocks and don't have to balance that with what others have said elsewhere.
You present yourself as being reasonable and wanting reasonable debate, but started your debate with a load of concocted nonsense, speculation and unfounded accusation. If you can't see that, then you'll carry on getting the sort of reaction to your posts that you don't seem to understand.

Ok, I tried

 

[Hamburg Blade]

For anyone who is embarrassed by Wilder's interviews this season I implore you to try and find some of Warnock's from the relegation season. That was true embarrassment.

God yes, even worse he seemed to tone it down after he left us, so people don't even believe how bad they were.