CONFIRMED Mark McGuinness - 4 year contract

[FTPE]

The big problem with that goal was that we got caught up the pitch because cannon lost the ball in what was basically a tussle with himself. That was why we were out of position.

While I would almost class Cannon as a disgrace the other day, its a basic break. We might not have pace at the back but we're still opened up a little too easy.

 

[Houston_Blade]

He’s been much better the last couple of games.

Hopefully he turns out to be an upgrade on JLT.

 

[ckpe147]

Does anybody know how much we spent on him??
He went to Luton for around 10 million apparently??

 

[Striker]

Does anybody know how much we spent on him??
He went to Luton for around 10 million apparently??

I believe 6.2m

 

[ckpe147]

I believe 6.2m

I dont know whether to believe you or not..

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

I don't believe he cost Luton 10 million

I certainly don't want to believe he cost us any more than 3m. If he did then it was a mad, desperate and random way to spend money

 

[ckpe147]

On Transfermarkt it suggests they did, I imagine the initial fee would have been much lower with incentives.
I'd imagine we paid around 3-5m

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

On Transfermarkt it suggests they did, I imagine the initial fee would have been much lower with incentives.
I'd imagine we paid around 3-5m

That's more believable. I reckon Luton paid a guaranteed 5-6m with incentives towards 10 that were never met

He didn't do well for them and in addition to their relegation that made them willing to take a considerable loss on him while bringing in valuable funds which few other players of theirs would fetch. So I'd say we probably gave them 3.5m or something but with these owners and our circumstances at the time I can't guess with any great confidence

 

[ckpe147]

That's more believable. I reckon Luton paid a guaranteed 5-6m with incentives towards 10 that were never met

He didn't do well for them and in addition to their relegation that made them willing to take a considerable loss on him while bringing in valuable funds which few other players of theirs would fetch. So I'd say we probably gave them 3.5m or something but with these owners and our circumstances at the time I can't guess with any great confidence

Yeah,
I think some of the fees we have thrown around at the back end of the transfer window are concerning.
God knows how much we paid for Matos, Chong, McGuinness, Tanganga and loan fees.

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

Yeah,
I think some of the fees we have thrown around at the back end of the transfer window are concerning.
God knows how much we paid for Matos, Chong, McGuinness, Tanganga and loan fees.

The combined McGuinness, Matos and Chong spend must be horrific

I'm not surprised we were able to get these permanent deals done quickly - there will have been zero serious competition. An example of picking up the scraps late in the window

 

[ckpe147]

The combined McGuinness, Matos and Chong spend must be horrific

I'm not surprised we were able to get these permanent deals done quickly - there will have been zero serious competition. An example of picking up the scraps late in the window

In fairness, I'd read that Ipswich were after McGuinness on deadline day too, apart from Andy Giddings tweet about him coming to us, all the rumours on twitter were saying he was off to Ipswich!
I think he'll come good though, its easy for people to jump on the hatewagon when the team plays so poorly, but as confidence grows I think we'll see a solid defender.

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

In fairness, I'd read that Ipswich were after McGuinness on deadline day too, apart from Andy Giddings tweet about him coming to us, all the rumours on twitter were saying he was off to Ipswich!
I think he'll come good though, its easy for people to jump on the hatewagon when the team plays so poorly, but as confidence grows I think we'll see a solid defender.

He has an outstanding opportunity, that's for sure, playing between 2 as convincing as Tanganga and Mee. I want to see some evidence pretty soon though that he has at least one stand out attrubute

 

[Pedro Verde]

Hes a decent head it and kick it CB. Sometimes you need one those. Hes got 2 very good players at the side of him. I feel pretty comfortable with him in the air. Blackburn put a fair few crosses in and the defence coped pretty well

 

[Blades Glory Owls Down]

I think, in an orthodox back 4, he looks a bit vulnerable and can be caught out for pace with balls over the top and through the channels but in our current set up of a back 3 (sort of, with Tanganga playing more wide as the right CB) he looks more comfortable but still shows a few signs of being slightly out of position.
He has looked more comfortable in dealing with high balls over recent games and has made some decent headed clearances from crosses and does look to be getting more confident with each game.
It will be interesting to see how he deals with strikers that have good pace. If teams get him turned around to chase through balls he could be found wanting.
Overall, though, he has been part of a team that has looked much more solid as a defensive unit over the last 4-5 games.
Lets see how he does tonight with a likely front 2 of Smith (Monster in the air) and Jebbison (Has been eating off his tap in against Everton a coulpe of years ago but does have decent pace). Could be decent test of his better attributes.