Lundstrum. Like The Clash said...

[Iceybabey]

Was fine as a sub to shore things up against Villa.

Will be a perfectly good midfielder in conjunction with Norwood or Coutts. He now has the opportunity to carve out his own identity without having to emulate a very different kind of footballer.

This

That is all.

 

[blade too long]

Did he seriously get booed onto the pitch when 4-1 up against Villa? Tell me it was only the odd braindead and not any group?




And I'd just like to point out how fucking hideous that is to bring up ^

He's not primarily an 'ugly stuff' player either. Not surprised a lot of our fans would think he is though.

its called ugly but its the bread and butter stopping and turning play round , which is classed by some as less skillful but is essential

 

[Eric Cartman]

Did he seriously get booed onto the pitch when 4-1 up against Villa? Tell me it was only the odd braindead and not any group?

I didn’t hear anything of the sort.

Just a few murmurs because Fleck had gone off but he was obviously injured.

 

[Topplayersleave]

He's still young and I think he'll get better
Being a part of a more settled team with other players willing to work hard will be a big help to him when he plays

 

[Speedracer]

I think he should stay, he has got good attributes naturally & has time for them to be improved by the coaching staff because he is still young. I am not saying he is ready to challenge for a place in the starting line up yet but I think he will be useful looking forward.

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

He's still young and I think he'll get better
Being a part of a more settled team with other players willing to work hard will be a big help to him when he plays

He's 25 next birthday.

If he was 20/21 i might have agreed.

 

[BushBlade]

He's 25 next birthday.

If he was 20/21 i might have agreed.

So he’s 24 then. You don’t say what you are next birthday unless you’re under 5 or over 80.

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

So he’s 24 then. You don’t say what you are next birthday unless you’re under 5 or over 80.

Yes he's 24,how did you work that out,you are either over 5 or under 80.

 

[BushBlade]

Yes he's 24,how did you work that out,you are either over 5 or under 80.

No, I’m not but it wasn’t me that said he’s 25 next birthday.

 

[super_pig]

Should he stay or should he go? The last of the not good enoughs or the first of the is good enoughs? Can he hack it in a quality midfield as we now have or would his prescence denigrate it?

i was exoecting ‘give em enough rope’.. disappointing

 

[super_pig]

It's not even about what he can and can't do, he's adequate at a lot of stuff and will probably have a half decent Championship career. He's hideously wrong for Sheffield United and the way we play though. He stays until we find someone who fits.

tbf he has had to try and develop by standing in for our best player

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

No, I’m not but it wasn’t me that said he’s 25 next birthday.

No you said he was 24,then added some un-useful info that had nowt to do with owt,off at a tangent exit stage left.

 

[Valleyblade]

Lots of simpletons think that Lundstrum is rubbish simply because Coutts got injured, and lundstrum wasn't as good as Coutts at being Coutts.

Give the man a break

 

[Shirty Blade]

I just think Lundstram isn't anywhere near as good as Coutts, Fleck, Duffy or Norwood and thought Leonard would be more useful to keep as a defensive midfielder. However another club wanted him and not Lundstram. Do I get a simpleton's award now?

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

I think the hardest bit is that even he doesn't know what type of midfielder he wants to be.

If he were a pro evolution player, he'd been even more bang average than...

 

[Sheffsteel]

I just think Lundstram isn't anywhere near as good as Coutts, Fleck, Duffy or Norwood and thought Leonard would be more useful to keep as a defensive midfielder. However another club wanted him and not Lundstram. Do I get a simpleton's award now?

Partially agree.
Think Leonard had better athleticism and a better tackler but he didn’t have the technical and passing ability of Lundstrum.

Lundstrum isn’t as good as Coutts or Norwood playing the Coutts quarterback role
But he’s better than Fleck and Duffy at playing the Coutts role.

Lundstrum isn’t as good as Fleck at playing the Fleck box to box midfield role
But he’s better than Duffy and probably better than Coutts and Norwood at playing the Fleck role.

Lundstrum is no where near as good as Duffy at playing the Duffy creative midfielder advanced role
But I’d say he’s better than Coutts but doubtful if he’s as good as Norwood playing the Duffy role.

Lundstrum is good at many attributes to being a midfielder, might sound daft but he’s probably our best allround midfielder.
the problem is he’s not great at anything, a jack of all trades master of nothing.

At the moment he’s not good enough to start ahead of the others
But he clearly very versatile and capable of covering as a good box to box midfielder or defensive midfielder.

I suspect Wilder values his versility especially to cover injuries and to bring on as sub.
Also bear in mind he was captain at Oxford, so presumably has leadership qualities
And he’s also relatively young so should improve, his weakness is decision making and consistency during a match, these tend to improve with age/ maturity.

Partially agree with Kozzy too, Lundstrum does have a lot of potential but doesn’t seem to know what he wants to be because he has so many options/ attributes. He could easily end up levelling out and spend the rest of his career as a top end league 1 player.
As I said jack of all trades (above average at so many things) but master of nothing, meaning he might never make it as a regular starter at Championship level.

 

[Shirty Blade]

Partially agree.
Think Leonard had better athleticism and a better tackler but he didn’t have the technical and passing ability of Lundstrum.

Lundstrum isn’t as good as Coutts or Norwood playing the Coutts quarterback role
But he’s better than Fleck and Duffy at playing the Coutts role.

Lundstrum isn’t as good as Fleck at playing the Fleck box to box midfield role
But he’s better than Duffy and probably better than Coutts and Norwood at playing the Fleck role.

Lundstrum is no where near as good as Duffy at playing the Duffy creative midfielder advanced role
But I’d say he’s better than Coutts but doubtful if he’s as good as Norwood playing the Duffy role.

Lundstrum is good at many attributes to being a midfielder, might sound daft but he’s probably our best allround midfielder.
the problem is he’s not great at anything, a jack of all trades master of nothing.

At the moment he’s not good enough to start ahead of the others
But he clearly very versatile and capable of covering as a good box to box midfielder or defensive midfielder.

I suspect Wilder values his versility especially to cover injuries and to bring on as sub.
Also bear in mind he was captain at Oxford, so presumably has leadership qualities
And he’s also relatively young so should improve, his weakness is decision making and consistency during a match, these tend to improve with age/ maturity.

Partially agree with Kozzy too, Lundstrum does have a lot of potential but doesn’t seem to know what he wants to be because he has so many options/ attributes. He could easily end up levelling out and spend the rest of his career as a top end league 1 player.
As I said jack of all trades (above average at so many things) but master of nothing, meaning he might never make it as a regular starter at Championship level.

Spot on! Can we ascribe Lundstram with the prestigious accolade of 'Utility man'. I think this title was once held by Bob Atkins and Johannes Ertl?

 

[Houston_Blade]

Going back to the Clash, he could also be a magnificent 7 if he improves.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Spot on! Can we ascribe Lundstram with the prestigious accolade of 'Utility man'. I think this title was once held by Bob Atkins and Johannes Ertl?

We could, but that's reserved for Bash??

 

[Ajmblade]

Could be proven very wrong, hope to be, but if I’m being honest and not trying to romanticise anything think he’s worse than Leonard and Evans and nowhere near as good as our starting midfielders at present.

Could improve or maybe as others have said he just hasn’t had opportunity to play his natural game but based on past performances I think labels like ‘very capable’ aren’t particularly justified.

He always seems to be the one that makes the mistake or messes up a good opportunity and has the rare flash of ability just not often enough for me.

Just my opinion of course and don’t have anything against the lad UTB

 

[Houston_Blade]

Partially agree.
Think Leonard had better athleticism and a better tackler but he didn’t have the technical and passing ability of Lundstrum.

Lundstrum isn’t as good as Coutts or Norwood playing the Coutts quarterback role
But he’s better than Fleck and Duffy at playing the Coutts role.

Lundstrum isn’t as good as Fleck at playing the Fleck box to box midfield role
But he’s better than Duffy and probably better than Coutts and Norwood at playing the Fleck role.

Lundstrum is no where near as good as Duffy at playing the Duffy creative midfielder advanced role
But I’d say he’s better than Coutts but doubtful if he’s as good as Norwood playing the Duffy role.

Lundstrum is good at many attributes to being a midfielder, might sound daft but he’s probably our best allround midfielder.
the problem is he’s not great at anything, a jack of all trades master of nothing.

At the moment he’s not good enough to start ahead of the others
But he clearly very versatile and capable of covering as a good box to box midfielder or defensive midfielder.

I suspect Wilder values his versility especially to cover injuries and to bring on as sub.
Also bear in mind he was captain at Oxford, so presumably has leadership qualities
And he’s also relatively young so should improve, his weakness is decision making and consistency during a match, these tend to improve with age/ maturity.

Partially agree with Kozzy too, Lundstrum does have a lot of potential but doesn’t seem to know what he wants to be because he has so many options/ attributes. He could easily end up levelling out and spend the rest of his career as a top end league 1 player.
As I said jack of all trades (above average at so many things) but master of nothing, meaning he might never make it as a regular starter at Championship level.

You might make a good point here, but you've called him "Lundstrum" 6 times so I can't read it.

 

[Revolution]

Partially agree.
Think Leonard had better athleticism and a better tackler but he didn’t have the technical and passing ability of Lundstrum.

Lundstrum isn’t as good as Coutts or Norwood playing the Coutts quarterback role
But he’s better than Fleck and Duffy at playing the Coutts role.

Lundstrum isn’t as good as Fleck at playing the Fleck box to box midfield role
But he’s better than Duffy and probably better than Coutts and Norwood at playing the Fleck role.

Lundstrum is no where near as good as Duffy at playing the Duffy creative midfielder advanced role
But I’d say he’s better than Coutts but doubtful if he’s as good as Norwood playing the Duffy role.

Lundstrum is good at many attributes to being a midfielder, might sound daft but he’s probably our best allround midfielder.
the problem is he’s not great at anything, a jack of all trades master of nothing.

At the moment he’s not good enough to start ahead of the others
But he clearly very versatile and capable of covering as a good box to box midfielder or defensive midfielder.

I suspect Wilder values his versility especially to cover injuries and to bring on as sub.
Also bear in mind he was captain at Oxford, so presumably has leadership qualities
And he’s also relatively young so should improve, his weakness is decision making and consistency during a match, these tend to improve with age/ maturity.

Partially agree with Kozzy too, Lundstrum does have a lot of potential but doesn’t seem to know what he wants to be because he has so many options/ attributes. He could easily end up levelling out and spend the rest of his career as a top end league 1 player.
As I said jack of all trades (above average at so many things) but master of nothing, meaning he might never make it as a regular starter at Championship level.

Jack of all trades, Master of None is a good way of looking at Lundstram.

He does things well...sometimes. Just not with enough consistency.

He can arrive late in the box and score (eg Sunderland on Boxing Day) but more often than not it's a shot over when well placed like against Swansea.

He can hit a good pass on occasion - the pass setting up Donaldson's first at Villa was a beauty - but he's also prone to passing to the opposition too much in danger areas.

Lundstram is also not the quickest and, like Lee Evans, doesn't do anything with any particular urgency.

Is he a lost cause? No. But he should not be a first choice at present, and must develop more consistency.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

The absence of a Coutts/Norwood figure made everyone in the team look shite including Fleck. Having that quality restored to centre mid has given everybody a new lease of life........and that includes Lundstram

 

[LJBlade]

Did he seriously get booed onto the pitch when 4-1 up against Villa? Tell me it was only the odd braindead and not any group?




And I'd just like to point out how fucking hideous that is to bring up ^

He's not primarily an 'ugly stuff' player either. Not surprised a lot of our fans would think he is though.

Yes, some at the back of the Kop booed when he came on. Thankfully there weren't that many and I don't think it was loud enough to reach the pitch

 

[Ricky]

The absence of a Coutts/Norwood figure made everyone in the team look shite including Fleck.

Really? Fleck carried us in the second half of last season and was our best player. I lost count of the times he bossed the game, especially in the second half of games away from home.

He'll excel more now with Norwood/Coutts but to say he looked shite without them, if that's what you really mean, is well wide of the mark.