Lower league Managers you respect in the transfer market?

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

At BDTBL we've generally suffered from managers who wouldn't know a good signing if they slapped them in the face (with a transfer request no doubt). I'm wondering if there are any managers ,who over the last couple of years, have genuinely impressed with their signings? And if so,. how much credit is to be given to the manager, and how much to the chief scout?

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Uwe Rosler made some useful signings at Brentford. He got Clayton Donaldson on a free. I was screaming to anyone who would listen that we should sign him when we got relegated but it wasn’t to be. I think he also signed Harlee Dean.


Foghorn Pighorn got Marhsall and Antonio in on loan to help get the pigs up.


Grayson did well with the acquisition of Beckford and Johnson last year to get Preston up.


Our own Danny Wilson got McDonald, Nick Blackman and LJF on frees whilst getting Matt Phillips on loan. But he also got O’Halloran, Hoskins, Forte, Westlake, McMahon, Robson, Cofie, Poleon etc.


Cotteril made some smart signings for Brisol last season.


Appleton seems to have done well in that regard at Oxford. Lundstram on a free in the summer was a great bit of business.

A manager who remains in the lower leagues who has a good record to discovering diamonds is John Still. Players like Craig Mackail Smith, Dwight Gayle, Andre Gray etc. all plucked from non-league.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Tisdale at Exeter for me. Shit crowds, shit ground, shit part of the world for football but he keeps finding players, and they're a good outside bet for the play-offs.

EDIT: Good article on him here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35595874

 

[lazyfecklessblade]

Not manager but backroom staff - Peterboro seem to consistently get top dollar for players, replace them for lots less and repeat the cycle (last 3 years Dwight Gayle,Britt Assombalonga and that Washington lad have all gone in and left for lots more money)

We should have someone following their scouts around

 

[BeatleBlade]

Russell Slade is now at Cardiff but he's pretty good. Paul Cook has a good record as well, I think someone on here said he pays a lot of attention to detail from their personal experience which is a good sign.
Paul Tisdale has done pretty well to stay at Exeter for so long. Obviously, Chris Wilder has done a good job too and Plymouth's manager Derek Adams is alright.

 

[BushBlade]

Uwe Rosler made some useful signings at Brentford. He got Clayton Donaldson on a free. I was screaming to anyone who would listen that we should sign him when we got relegated but it wasn’t to be. I think he also signed Harlee Dean.


Foghorn Pighorn got Marhsall and Antonio in on loan to help get the pigs up.


Grayson did well with the acquisition of Beckford and Johnson last year to get Preston up.


Our own Danny Wilson got McDonald, Nick Blackman and LJF on frees whilst getting Matt Phillips on loan. But he also got O’Halloran, Hoskins, Forte, Westlake, McMahon, Robson, Cofie, Poleon etc.


Cotteril made some smart signings for Brisol last season.


Appleton seems to have done well in that regard at Oxford. Lundstram on a free in the summer was a great bit of business.

A manager who remains in the lower leagues who has a good record to discovering diamonds is John Still. Players like Craig Mackail Smith, Dwight Gayle, Andre Gray etc. all plucked from non-league.

Some good examples there but Rosler didn't do the signings at Brentford, that was Warburton when he was DoF.

 

[billyblademan]

Nigel Clough.

 

[Silent Blade]

Chris Wilder

 

[Dnblade]

Dean Smith when he was at Walsall was another,although the ones we bought didn't really work out here.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Russell Slade is now at Cardiff but he's pretty good. Paul Cook has a good record as well, I think someone on here said he pays a lot of attention to detail from their personal experience which is a good sign.
Paul Tisdale has done pretty well to stay at Exeter for so long. Obviously, Chris Wilder has done a good job too and Plymouth's manager Derek Adams is alright.

Russell Slade got a bum deal at Leyton Orient . Taking them in the right direction for anticipated promotion into the championship . Got threatened with the sack on numerous occasions , and finished up at Cardiff . Leyton Orient got relegated after having 5no managers . Dark horse for BDTBL at one time.

Difference with a lot of managers being named on this thread . There's only 2no clubs were expectations are high due to past continual failures . Blades and Portsmouth . Many managers and players cannot deal with the pressure .
UTB

 

[BeatleBlade]

Russell Slade got a bum deal at Leyton Orient . Taking them in the right direction for anticipated promotion into the championship . Got threatened with the sack on numerous occasions , and finished up at Cardiff . Leyton Orient got relegated after having 5no managers . Dark horse for BDTBL at one time.

Difference with a lot of managers being named on this thread . There's only 2no clubs were expectations are high due to past continual failures . Blades and Portsmouth . Many managers and players cannot deal with the pressure .
UTB

It's also impatience of clubs like United and Portsmouth to get out of these lower leagues. We want to be out NOW, no time to build, no time to turn it around. Get it done immediately or face the sack.
You could say that is fair enough, but it may also be a factor in our elongated stay down here.

 

[BushBlade]

It's also impatience of clubs like United and Portsmouth to get out of these lower leagues. We want to be out NOW, no time to build, no time to turn it around. Get it done immediately or face the sack.
You could say that is fair enough, but it may also be a factor in our elongated stay down here.

True, we should have allowed Wilson to build properly after the first season when we'd shipped out several key players instead of selling Blackman and bringing in a load of crap on short term contracts and loans. Instead we sacked an experienced manager with a reasonable record of developing young players and replaced him with a novice.
Now, each season we become more desperate to go up but appear further away from doing so.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Not manager but backroom staff - Peterboro seem to consistently get top dollar for players, replace them for lots less and repeat the cycle (last 3 years Dwight Gayle,Britt Assombalonga and that Washington lad have all gone in and left for lots more money)

We should have someone following their scouts around

Agreed. But as I touched upon, a few of their discoveries have been discovered by John Still and he also discovered Andre Gray for Luton.


They sold him far too cheaply.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Some good examples there but Rosler didn't do the signings at Brentford, that was Warburton when he was DoF.

Ah I see, wasn’t sure on the set up there. I guess that might go some way to explaining why Rosler hasn’t managed to repeat his success at the likes of Wigan and Leeds although the turmoil of those clubs were also factors.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Nigel Clough.

Clough’s a funny one. In the past, he can be credited with some great bargain hunting.


Brayford

Pringle

Bryson

Hendrick

Buxton

Even Che Adams for us.


He seems to have slipped into a pattern of going with his tried and trusted players from other clubs though instead of trying to unearth new gems.


For a time, it looked like Scougall and McNulty might have been finds and Freeman is not without ability but it seems their attitudes will hold them back from kicking on.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

It's also impatience of clubs like United and Portsmouth to get out of these lower leagues. We want to be out NOW, no time to build, no time to turn it around. Get it done immediately or face the sack.
You could say that is fair enough, but it may also be a factor in our elongated stay down here.

I think it’s a factor in managers going for experienced players they know rather than young ones that can improve.


If they think they’re not going to be in a job in a year, it’s pointless signing players for the future. They know they are under pressure to deliver here and now.

 

[BushBlade]

Clough’s a funny one. In the past, he can be credited with some great bargain hunting.


Brayford

Pringle

Bryson

Hendrick

Buxton

Even Che Adams for us.


He seems to have slipped into a pattern of going with his tried and trusted players from other clubs though instead of trying to unearth new gems.


For a time, it looked like Scougall and McNulty might have been finds and Freeman is not without ability but it seems their attitudes will hold them back from kicking on.

He made his name (yeah I know) from being able to work on low budgets, his budget at Derby was thought to be in the bottom six, and I suspect that's what he's good at. Giving him a pile of money to spend seems to have had the same result as when Warnock is given money.

With the benefit of hindsight, he wasn't the right man for the job we wanted him to do.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Adkins doesn't need scouts to suggest potential signings for next season . . . . He has already seen em all at first hand this season. Nearly every club in this league have at least one young starlet who have tortured us game after game this term.

 

[BerksBlade]

Foghorn Pighorn

 

[Blade82]

Steve Evans deserves a lot of credit for the jobs at Crawley and Rotherham. He's adapted to the different divisions he's been in showing he's not just a one trick pony in a particular league.