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I believe that Chris Wilder if allowed and supported could take this club to a permanent fixture in the Prem with some silverware.
We are looking well down the road but he has the attributes to do this.
But at some point (hopefully having remained with us) he will retire. My worry is who then replaces him? Hopefully we are not talking for a long time but Alex Ferguson retired eventually, and despite the money, size of club and expectation there, they have lost what they had under him.
However if you look at Liverpool under Shankly they were still very successful even after he retired. This was because of the boot room where Shankly created two natural successors. Chris Wilder already has a kind of boot room (a bit posher at Shirecliffe) with Bettis, Mitchel and Knill.
I'm of the opinion that this could be widened further with a couple of younger coaches who could be identified by Chris Wilder as potential successors. These coaches could have the inside track and be part of future planning and their ideas utilised.
This is hopefully a while off but we more than anyone know what the difference between what a completely shit manager and a Wilder brings. Management can be taught to the right candidates.
 



Why today? Why fret and worry and ponder on nowt. It’s first game of season. Save this for pre season
 
He's only 51! I know he likes a Peroni or 7 but I think he has a few years ahead of him.

Not saying he hasn't, in fact I hope he creates such a dynasty by 15 years time that he wants to stay on to Roy Hodgson's age. However I did say Long Long term. My post is because I rate him higher (even than Bassett in my time watching) than any other manager I've seen. I'm hoping to be still watching when he does retire hopefully 18 to 20 years away and it would be great if he has someone who can continue what he is doing. In the meantime I'm enjoying the ride.
 
CW is here for as long as he wants to be. This manager (and AK at his side) comes along once in a generation, maybe even once in a lifetime, if you are lucky.
 
I believe that Chris Wilder if allowed and supported could take this club to a permanent fixture in the Prem with some silverware.
We are looking well down the road but he has the attributes to do this.
But at some point (hopefully having remained with us) he will retire. My worry is who then replaces him? Hopefully we are not talking for a long time but Alex Ferguson retired eventually, and despite the money, size of club and expectation there, they have lost what they had under him.
However if you look at Liverpool under Shankly they were still very successful even after he retired. This was because of the boot room where Shankly created two natural successors. Chris Wilder already has a kind of boot room (a bit posher at Shirecliffe) with Bettis, Mitchel and Knill.
I'm of the opinion that this could be widened further with a couple of younger coaches who could be identified by Chris Wilder as potential successors. These coaches could have the inside track and be part of future planning and their ideas utilised.
This is hopefully a while off but we more than anyone know what the difference between what a completely shit manager and a Wilder brings. Management can be taught to the right candidates.
Small steps and that.
If we look at teams like stoke,Burnley and Southampton, I'm sure we could get on that sort of level,or even slightly better as we have a quality manager.

*stoke over the last 10 years of course.
 
I believe that Chris Wilder if allowed and supported could take this club to a permanent fixture in the Prem with some silverware.
We are looking well down the road but he has the attributes to do this.
But at some point (hopefully having remained with us) he will retire. My worry is who then replaces him? Hopefully we are not talking for a long time but Alex Ferguson retired eventually, and despite the money, size of club and expectation there, they have lost what they had under him.
However if you look at Liverpool under Shankly they were still very successful even after he retired. This was because of the boot room where Shankly created two natural successors. Chris Wilder already has a kind of boot room (a bit posher at Shirecliffe) with Bettis, Mitchel and Knill.
I'm of the opinion that this could be widened further with a couple of younger coaches who could be identified by Chris Wilder as potential successors. These coaches could have the inside track and be part of future planning and their ideas utilised.
This is hopefully a while off but we more than anyone know what the difference between what a completely shit manager and a Wilder brings. Management can be taught to the right candidates.
I really like your thinking, especially the comparison with Man Utd. Long term succession planning is an excellent idea. It's also clear that, while many fans support Wilder and his very special qualities, they are happy to look no further than next weeks game.

Ferguson left the hot seat a long time ago, and Man U are not much closer to a style of play, and the kind of no nonsense approach that Wilder has instilled in our club. Maybe Solskjear is the one, having played under Ferguson and he understands the requirements that Wilder has brought to Sheffield.

Might be Jags, or Jack at the academy are signs of future planning, maybe not, but I hope the people involved are from the same kind of stock as Wilder, and "Mr Sheffield United" himself.

I'm a lifelong Blade fan from John Harris up to date, so you will forgive me for hoping that our long term future is also on the radar for Chris and his team. :)
 
Someone's spending too much time thinking.

Enjoy the moment as too often we haven't beeb able too
 
Weve more risk of loosing him to a bigger club if he does well and then wins a cup.
 
Weve more risk of loosing him to a bigger club if he does well and then wins a cup.

Believe it or not that risk is lower then most people think.

Sean Dyche has been brilliant at Burnley.....Eddie Howe has been brilliant at Bournmouth.
However no PL clubs are interested in either......fortunately for us English managers are out of fashion in the PL.

Wilder will get interest from big Championship clubs or very small PL willing to be left field and take the risk.
But he’s hardly going to leave us for those clubs......so it wouldn’t surprise me that even if we finish mid table every season then he’ll remain here.

The only way we’ll lose him is if he regularly beats some of the top 6, we win silverware in the cups or we reach the Europa Cup and do well in it.
This would open the eyes of the bigger PL clubs so they’d feel more validated to appoint him.
 
Jagielka with Morgs as coach is our next appointment












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