Limited Take ...

[pommpey]

No marks out of ten. I had an Angling Association AGM last night so encouraged the fucking boring cunts to wrap it up and raced back through the darkened South Hants countryside backroads and tuned in from 63 minutes. I was stunned to see us 0-0, to be honest but watching onwards, unsurprised.

Evident for me was the controversial figure that is one Oliver McBurnie. He's shown some endeavour - at last - when appearing from the bench lately and many of us felt maybe he'd turned a corner, stopped trying to play the world's worst playmaker, stopped being a daft-arsed tough guy, stopped being a bellend. I for one hoped he was just going to do what we signed him for and what he did against us in the past so well ... namely get busy making defences jobs difficult and score some fucking goals already. But no. He's back to doing what he does worst, trying to be Mr Link-Man out of the box, dropping away from the Centre Backs and cannoning the high ball of his melon to no one but the opposition. I highlighted him for this last season in 'My Takes ... ' (go check) and many fired back at me that I was wrong and he 'works hard'. He's scored one fucking goal in however many months since his one previous and this 'he's paid his transfer fee' shit (see also: 'Sicknote-can't-get-a-game-at-Hallamshire-Celtic') can go fuck itself in the ass, as can those defending whither we should have met Maupay's demands, especially watching Maupay clip that fucking beaut into the top bin last match. McBurnie wouldn't do that 'ever' for us, instead spend his time scrauming around on the deck appealling to the fucking ref with his arms out. Give you a clue, tough-feller. The game's like that. Ask Andy Carroll, Alan Shearer, Duncan Ferguson, Niall Quinn, Adebyore, Didier Droghba. They could take it, give it and above all else, score fucking goals. They got the shit kicked out of them, and kicked the shit out of defenders, and they spent most of their game in the 18yd box waiting for the chance.*

Elsewhere, when I tuned in we were well advanced, pushing Hull back into their half. That's great as long as you hang onto the ball. Having Mr Pointy simply cough up possession time after time with his daft-as-fuck 'ping' just allows Hull to counter and late-on they did, almost fucking scoring. Note: as he realised he'd fucked up and was hurriedly trying to recover across the pitch, he pointed behind him, where no-one was. What the fuck do you do that for Oliver? No one is watching, let along acting on your astute observations. I think at that time, al United players are thinking 'For fuck's sake, Norwood!' (as was I, only out loud ... VERY loud) and were running to catch the breaking Hull players and get beyond them. As it was MGW and Furious did the dutiful thing with Robinson finally squashing the attack. But it would have been tough/rough justice if they'd have scored. It's not like we've seen Norwood put us into trouble before ... is it? And his corners. Fuck me.

Thought RND looked good but isolated over on the left and Furious/Bash looked worried by their left back on the near flank (bet we don't sign him) and Berge, when he came on showed flickering capability, but ... looking at him ... is he really that good? Any better than say, Jamie Murphy or Dane Whitehouse? What would they be worth now if we judge he is?

The rest is history. Another clean sheet (albeit against a team looking pretty shit all over the park) but a blank at the other end isn't the end of the world but its two points that on paper we should and could be easily having if the rest of the match is what others say. Clinical finishing is the platinum standard to footballing success and weak shots, headers simply ricocheting off heads and into the stands and efforts fired at the keeper aren't the stuff that gives us the success we crave. Bramall Lane looked fairly full last night for a Tuesday even with it on Red Button and they all needed just one fucking goal. The playoffs beckon here ... and perhaps more ... but we are showing our true lack of potential if we fail to deal with a stubborn, backs-against-the-wall Hull and have people like McBurnie playing the dick instead of destroying them in the action zone.

pommpey

*Incidentally, I played FIFA22 last neyt SUFC v HCFC and we won 8-2. McBurnie scored ALL EIGHT.

I love FIFA22.

 

[pommpey]

Nineth

pommpey

 

[Snowflake]

No marks out of ten. I had an Angling Association AGM last night so encouraged the fucking boring cunts to wrap it up and raced back through the darkened South Hants countryside backroads and tuned in from 63 minutes. I was stunned to see us 0-0, to be honest but watching onwards, unsurprised.

Evident for me was the controversial figure that is one Oliver McBurnie. He's shown some endeavour - at last - when appearing from the bench lately and many of us felt maybe he'd turned a corner, stopped trying to play the world's worst playmaker, stopped being a daft-arsed tough guy, stopped being a bellend. I for one hoped he was just going to do what we signed him for and what he did against us in the past so well ... namely get busy making defences jobs difficult and score some fucking goals already. But no. He's back to doing what he does worst, trying to be Mr Link-Man out of the box, dropping away from the Centre Backs and cannoning the high ball of his melon to no one but the opposition. I highlighted him for this last season in 'My Takes ... ' (go check) and many fired back at me that I was wrong and he 'works hard'. He's scored one fucking goal in however many months since his one previous and this 'he's paid his transfer fee' shit (see also: 'Sicknote-can't-get-a-game-at-Hallamshire-Celtic') can go fuck itself in the ass, as can those defending whither we should have met Maupay's demands, especially watching Maupay clip that fucking beaut into the top bin last match. McBurnie wouldn't do that 'ever' for us, instead spend his time scrauming around on the deck appealling to the fucking ref with his arms out. Give you a clue, tough-feller. The game's like that. Ask Andy Carroll, Alan Shearer, Duncan Ferguson, Niall Quinn, Adebyore, Didier Droghba. They could take it, give it and above all else, score fucking goals. They got the shit kicked out of them, and kicked the shit out of defenders, and they spent most of their game in the 18yd box waiting for the chance.*

Elsewhere, when I tuned in we were well advanced, pushing Hull back into their half. That's great as long as you hang onto the ball. Having Mr Pointy simply cough up possession time after time with his daft-as-fuck 'ping' just allows Hull to counter and late-on they did, almost fucking scoring. Note: as he realised he'd fucked up and was hurriedly trying to recover across the pitch, he pointed behind him, where no-one was. What the fuck do you do that for Oliver? No one is watching, let along acting on your astute observations. I think at that time, al United players are thinking 'For fuck's sake, Norwood!' (as was I, only out loud ... VERY loud) and were running to catch the breaking Hull players and get beyond them. As it was MGW and Furious did the dutiful thing with Robinson finally squashing the attack. But it would have been tough/rough justice if they'd have scored. It's not like we've seen Norwood put us into trouble before ... is it? And his corners. Fuck me.

Thought RND looked good but isolated over on the left and Furious/Bash looked worried by their left back on the near flank (bet we don't sign him) and Berge, when he came on showed flickering capability, but ... looking at him ... is he really that good? Any better than say, Jamie Murphy or Dane Whitehouse? What would they be worth now if we judge he is?

The rest is history. Another clean sheet (albeit against a team looking pretty shit all over the park) but a blank at the other end isn't the end of the world but its two points that on paper we should and could be easily having if the rest of the match is what others say. Clinical finishing is the platinum standard to footballing success and weak shots, headers simply ricocheting off heads and into the stands and efforts fired at the keeper aren't the stuff that gives us the success we crave. Bramall Lane looked fairly full last night for a Tuesday even with it on Red Button and they all needed just one fucking goal. The playoffs beckon here ... and perhaps more ... but we are showing our true lack of potential if we fail to deal with a stubborn, backs-against-the-wall Hull and have people like McBurnie playing the dick instead of destroying them in the action zone.

pommpey

*Incidentally, I played FIFA22 last neyt SUFC v HCFC and we won 8-2. McBurnie scored ALL EIGHT.

I love FIFA22.

Avoid AGMs and FIFA22 on match days and you will feel better.
I don’t think that the four or five chances McB had were easy but he should have had one of them. The best two, which should have gone in, were with Robinson and N’diaye.
I look forward to reading your “report” on Sunday when the charismatic McB has scored a hat trick ! Until then enjoy your fishing.

 

[Geordie Blade]

Not sure if you've watched the first half on replay at all, which was far, far better than the second. In the first half, Norwood was excellent and McBurnie was fairly good (not excellent, but certainly a genuine nuisance to Hull). Both of them were very poor second half though - both lost patience / composure and started to try unrealistic things. On balance, there were far worse performances than those two. MGW and Ndiaye were a long way short on what they can do, Baldock didn't offer anywhere near enough and RND (despite some fantastic runs at pace) didn't deliver anything meaningful.

Poor finishing, no doubt - and certainly not very good game management (we panicked too easily). But if we had put or two of the chances away, I think everyone would have been raving about a great team performance.

 

[Bashamed]

Last night was the definition of one of those games where it just doesn't go for you. McBurnie abuse from people on here is getting so fucking boring.

 

[pommpey]

Avoid AGMs and FIFA22 on match days and you will feel better.
I don’t think that the four or five chances McB had were easy but he should have had one of them. The best two, which should have gone in, were with Robinson and N’diaye.
I look forward to reading your “report” on Sunday when the charismatic McB has scored a hat trick ! Until then enjoy your fishing.

AGMs aren't avoidable, as you may know

FIFA22 maybe so, but then again, my McBurnie doesn't flail around like a twat. Just scores goals and latches onto through balls from N'Daiye and hits shots away from the goalkeeper

Yeah, I'll have some of what you're on regarding McBurnie's 'hat-trick'.

pommpey

 

[pommpey]

Last night was the definition of one of those games where it just doesn't go for you. McBurnie abuse from people on here is getting so fucking boring.

Yet ranged against his output ... 'goals', one might say it's justified?

He is simply not doing what a striker should be doing

pommpey

 

[Geordie Blade]

Also - one of the funny things about being a football fan: The game last night was just as one-sided as either of our matches against Manchester City last year. Yet...

When we're all over another but not scoring, we all think "Oh no, it's going to be one of those games - we'll waste chance after chance and then concede against the run of play".

When the other team is all over us but not scoring, we all think "This pressure is inevitable - we'll never score in a million years and we're bound to concede any moment now".

 

[Blade56]

With his weight loss, for me McBambie legs has either……

1. A drink issue
2. an eating problem

His body mass index must be that of a 14 year old lass. I’m told by my son he’s a big fan of NFU who subscribe to low body fat, ffs he’s got low bone calcium cause there’s no fat on his bleached bones covered by that red and white shirt. He’s a walking feckin disaster and Heckys trying to get a career out of him.

 

[Blacksea]

Apparently,management have decided that McBurnies new role is Mr Link man,so he's doing what he's told.

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

With his weight loss, for me McBambie legs has either……

1. A drink issue
2. an eating problem

His body mass index must be that of a 14 year old lass. I’m told by my son he’s a big fan of NFU who subscribe to low body fat, ffs he’s got low bone calcium cause there’s no fat on his bleached bones covered by that red and white shirt. He’s a walking feckin disaster and Heckys trying to get a career out of him.

National Farmers Union or the insurance people?

 

[Grappler]

With his weight loss, for me McBambie legs has either……

1. A drink issue
2. an eating problem

His body mass index must be that of a 14 year old lass. I’m told by my son he’s a big fan of NFU who subscribe to low body fat, ffs he’s got low bone calcium cause there’s no fat on his bleached bones covered by that red and white shirt. He’s a walking feckin disaster and Heckys trying to get a career out of him.

In the McBurnie interview, on SUTV, he said that through his recent illness he has lost 5-6 kilo's (at least I think that's what he said, the interview might still be on the club website). That's close to a stone, in old money. His face looked gaunt in the interview, and as I said on the Huddersfield thread, he looks like he needs to add at least 10 pounds to his frame. You can do this with proper diet, nutrition, weight training, adding most of the weight as muscle (functional muscle).

 

[Grappler]

No marks out of ten. I had an Angling Association AGM last night so encouraged the fucking boring cunts to wrap it up and raced back through the darkened South Hants countryside backroads and tuned in from 63 minutes. I was stunned to see us 0-0, to be honest but watching onwards, unsurprised.

Evident for me was the controversial figure that is one Oliver McBurnie. He's shown some endeavour - at last - when appearing from the bench lately and many of us felt maybe he'd turned a corner, stopped trying to play the world's worst playmaker, stopped being a daft-arsed tough guy, stopped being a bellend. I for one hoped he was just going to do what we signed him for and what he did against us in the past so well ... namely get busy making defences jobs difficult and score some fucking goals already. But no. He's back to doing what he does worst, trying to be Mr Link-Man out of the box, dropping away from the Centre Backs and cannoning the high ball of his melon to no one but the opposition. I highlighted him for this last season in 'My Takes ... ' (go check) and many fired back at me that I was wrong and he 'works hard'. He's scored one fucking goal in however many months since his one previous and this 'he's paid his transfer fee' shit (see also: 'Sicknote-can't-get-a-game-at-Hallamshire-Celtic') can go fuck itself in the ass, as can those defending whither we should have met Maupay's demands, especially watching Maupay clip that fucking beaut into the top bin last match. McBurnie wouldn't do that 'ever' for us, instead spend his time scrauming around on the deck appealling to the fucking ref with his arms out. Give you a clue, tough-feller. The game's like that. Ask Andy Carroll, Alan Shearer, Duncan Ferguson, Niall Quinn, Adebyore, Didier Droghba. They could take it, give it and above all else, score fucking goals. They got the shit kicked out of them, and kicked the shit out of defenders, and they spent most of their game in the 18yd box waiting for the chance.*

Elsewhere, when I tuned in we were well advanced, pushing Hull back into their half. That's great as long as you hang onto the ball. Having Mr Pointy simply cough up possession time after time with his daft-as-fuck 'ping' just allows Hull to counter and late-on they did, almost fucking scoring. Note: as he realised he'd fucked up and was hurriedly trying to recover across the pitch, he pointed behind him, where no-one was. What the fuck do you do that for Oliver? No one is watching, let along acting on your astute observations. I think at that time, al United players are thinking 'For fuck's sake, Norwood!' (as was I, only out loud ... VERY loud) and were running to catch the breaking Hull players and get beyond them. As it was MGW and Furious did the dutiful thing with Robinson finally squashing the attack. But it would have been tough/rough justice if they'd have scored. It's not like we've seen Norwood put us into trouble before ... is it? And his corners. Fuck me.

Thought RND looked good but isolated over on the left and Furious/Bash looked worried by their left back on the near flank (bet we don't sign him) and Berge, when he came on showed flickering capability, but ... looking at him ... is he really that good? Any better than say, Jamie Murphy or Dane Whitehouse? What would they be worth now if we judge he is?

The rest is history. Another clean sheet (albeit against a team looking pretty shit all over the park) but a blank at the other end isn't the end of the world but its two points that on paper we should and could be easily having if the rest of the match is what others say. Clinical finishing is the platinum standard to footballing success and weak shots, headers simply ricocheting off heads and into the stands and efforts fired at the keeper aren't the stuff that gives us the success we crave. Bramall Lane looked fairly full last night for a Tuesday even with it on Red Button and they all needed just one fucking goal. The playoffs beckon here ... and perhaps more ... but we are showing our true lack of potential if we fail to deal with a stubborn, backs-against-the-wall Hull and have people like McBurnie playing the dick instead of destroying them in the action zone.

pommpey

*Incidentally, I played FIFA22 last neyt SUFC v HCFC and we won 8-2. McBurnie scored ALL EIGHT.

I love FIFA22.

It was probably the most one sided "0-0" that you are ever going to see.

I think that, no matter what, you have to start Billy Sharp, and don't bring him on when we are chasing a game. Let Billy do his stuff, and then sub him, if needed.

Sander looked a lot better, used his strength and had a surprising bit of speed, to continually beat his man and get a ball in.

I can't remember if Jebbo has a lot of pace or not, but if he has, then should have been brought on, late in the game, when opposition legs are tiring.

 

[Bashamed]

Yet ranged against his output ... 'goals', one might say it's justified?

He is simply not doing what a striker should be doing

pommpey

It's justified to criticise him. Just the level and frequency of it is getting annoying for me. He's now just hammered every time he gets on the pitch even if he does nothing wrong. Still hoping he can contribute eventually and think he needs minutes to get him up to speed now.

 

[Nagima]

The problem last night as I see it is a question of balance. Norwood and Hourihane are very similar. The both drop deep to receive the ball. With Ndiaye and MGW playing so far forward and tending to go wide alot, this puts too much distance between the deep midfielders and attackers. Only rarely does some appear to receive the ball centrally outside the box.
The result is too much going down the wings against a team who defended deep and no one driving on through the centre to lay off an angled pass into the box for someone to run on to. 72% possession 22 shots on goal with 3 on target. We are not creating enough clear cut chances for the amount of play we have and when we do create something we are not clinical. If we are to secure a playoff spot and have a real go at gaining promotion this is the area that needs to be addressed. We need to get into a habit of scoring more and killing off teams when we have the opportunity.

Hull weren't the worst team to turn up at the lane. They worked hard and created on the counter attacks. But for the dominance we had in the game we need players to see what is front of them and be clever enough to adjust to exploit it. Overall we have improved under Hecky but we are a long way off where we should be.

 

[pommpey]

It's justified to criticise him. Just the level and frequency of it is getting annoying for me. He's now just hammered every time he gets on the pitch even if he does nothing wrong. Still hoping he can contribute eventually and think he needs minutes to get him up to speed now.

I really, really want him to start firing in the goals and to get the praise he may deserve. But whilst he is forever shithousing and out of the box, their central defenders are sat smoking and looking at TikTok on their phones and the ref must be thinking "How many more times does that cunt have to fall over and get up with his arms up crying 'REF!' for him to get the fucking message?"

It's not centre-forwarding. It's pathetic and it's not Sheffield United. Even Ashley Ward, Craig Beattie and Chris Porter were better than this.

pommpey

 

[Constantly Optimistic...]

Just totally agree and I saw all the game, and much as Mceffindonkey ran around a lot in the first half he was like a headless chicken. I was tearing my hair out by the end of the game in despair. To me, what was generally a good performance against a dogged but poor Hull team, was ruined by this ineffectual, overpaid, useless waste of Wilder investment. We had a team building momentum, we had to give our 36 year old top scorer a breather. So we give him two more games leading the attack and no goals result. It's not only that he doesn't score, he rarely provides an assist of any kind. Attacks breakdown when he is in possession. Why oh why didn't Jebbo even get 20 minutes?
Mr pointy, good and bad moments, trouble is, his bad moments can cost us dearly.
Good effort from the rest, amazing pressure, an entertaining watch, but we should have gone home comfortably and happy with 3 points and maybe 3 goals in the bag.

 

[Bell4]

The problem last night as I see it is a question of balance. Norwood and Hourihane are very similar. The both drop deep to receive the ball. With Ndiaye and MGW playing so far forward and tending to go wide alot, this puts too much distance between the deep midfielders and attackers. Only rarely does some appear to receive the ball centrally outside the box.
The result is too much going down the wings against a team who defended deep and no one driving on through the centre to lay off an angled pass into the box for someone to run on to. 72% possession 22 shots on goal with 3 on target. We are not creating enough clear cut chances for the amount of play we have and when we do create something we are not clinical. If we are to secure a playoff spot and have a real go at gaining promotion this is the area that needs to be addressed. We need to get into a habit of scoring more and killing off teams when we have the opportunity.

Hull weren't the worst team to turn up at the lane. They worked hard and created on the counter attacks. But for the dominance we had in the game we need players to see what is front of them and be clever enough to adjust to exploit it. Overall we have improved under Hecky but we are a long way off where we should be.

Good post

But I thought there were 3/4 clear cut chances and I mean - clear cut.

Out finishing was abysmal

The clear cuts weren’t taken

The other 18/19 attempts were poor

We did enough to win this game and some irrespective of Norwood / Baldock / O Mac or whoever

Rank bad finishing

 

[Champagneblade]

Nineth

pommpey

Which is where we'll finish if we keep him up top!

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

A frustrating night all round. McBurnie aside, the missed chances, Baldock struggling a bit, the lack of forward thrust from midfield until Berge appeared, poor passing at times in dangerous places.
Another was the flick/trick stuff from Withnail and MGW. Wouldn't want them not trying this stuff, but the when and where is crucial to it working. It comes with experience of course, but a few last night were just unrealistic and surrendered possesion unnecessarily.

 

[metalblade]

McBurnie was nowhere near the worst player for us last night. Both MGW and Ndiaye were very poor too many tricks when simple will do. Norwood back to Wilderball giving the ball away or pings left and right to marked wing backs who both only knew how to pass back to the back three.
Two golden chances JLT put a free header wide, Ndiaye missed a one on one with the keeper on a break started by McBurnie. The rest of our chances were either difficult or half chances. The haters will slate McBurnie but Billy faired no better with the service when he came on. I agree McBurnie was knackered after the hour mark why not let Jebbo have a pop?

 

[Muttley]

I took a couple of neutrals with me last night. They couldn't believe how crap McBurnie was. I thought he was decent defending?, but that's not really his job is it?

 

[Blad]

I took a couple of neutrals with me last night. They couldn't believe how crap McBurnie was. I thought he was decent defending?, but that's not really his job is it?

Every neutral that watches him thinks he’s crap, all Scottish fans think he’s crap, all realistic Blades think he’s crap.

But they are all wrong because his fanboys who refuse to admit they are wrong think he’s a reyt player, plays well every game (no laughing) and literally everyone else is wrong.

 

[Blade56]

National Farmers Union or the insurance people?

Damn, too late to edit

 

[Blade56]

Every neutral that watches him thinks he’s crap, all Scottish fans think he’s crap, all realistic Blades think he’s crap.

Wilder thought he were reyt enough to spaff £18,000,000 on

 

[Blad]

Wilder thought he were reyt enough to spaff £18,000,000 on

Bollock dropped, pound for pound our worst signing ever.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Wilder thought he were reyt enough to spaff £18,000,000 on

£18m isn't huge for a striker in the PL, in fact its more of a punt on potential based on promising performances (like with Brewster). Wilder was always fishing in that pool with the overall budget he had.

McBurnie wasn't up to the task in the PL and has sadly gone backwards ever since. Now he can't score in the Championship. Time we cut our losses and moved him on.

 

[Varkanoid]

It was typical McBurnie including the WWE wrestling throw as he chucked one of their players on the floor running back. Norwood was better in the first half we were basically camped in Hulls half for most of the match. Unfortunately injuries have stunted our slow but sure good run and now we have to rely on old man Sharp, a kid and McBurnie.

The future doesnt look bright, McB needs to put up or get out. I hope he does. However in that second half and some of first half it was like the rest of the team didnt want to pass it to him and he was the only forward on the pitch.

 

[VM198]

It was probably the most one sided "0-0" that you are ever going to see.

I think that, no matter what, you have to start Billy Sharp, and don't bring him on when we are chasing a game. Let Billy do his stuff, and then sub him, if needed.

Sander looked a lot better, used his strength and had a surprising bit of speed, to continually beat his man and get a ball in.

I can't remember if Jebbo has a lot of pace or not, but if he has, then should have been brought on, late in the game, when opposition legs are tiring.

I also am unsure what pace Jebbson has, but I know what he has got, and that is good positional sense especially in connection with scoring goals.

 

[guancheblade]

I don’t think that the four or five chances McB had were easy but he should have had one of them. The best two, which should have gone in, were with Robinson and N’diaye.

If you think any of our players "should" be scoring that Ndiaye chance I'd suggest rewatching it. I'd have put a £100 on Billy to also hit the goalkeeper given

a) the speed of the through ball, and
b) the speed of the keeper to rush out and close down the angles

I'd have put £1000 on the rest of our squad not evening hitting the target, and £10k on McGoldrick to put it into the front yard of 317 Shoreham Street.

I get that Ndiaye is an insane talent, but I sense us as fans are putting too much expectation on the lad and unfairly holding him to higher standards than the rest.