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I've got a bit of sympathy with Micalijo on this one. Perhaps it's because we're a very similar age but the Wigan relegation also hit me harder than anything that's gone before or since Blades-wise. I do think how old you are when stuff happens plays almost as much of a part as your general outlook on things (mine and mic's are often poles apart for example).

The Bassett era was magical, unbelievable stuff. For someone who first visited the Lane to watch a 4th Division trophy presentation match, to see the Blades facing Ian Rush et al in August 1990 was just beyond wildest dreams stuff. I was 14 and I just couldn't believe Sheffield United were on the same pitch as that Liverpool team. Obviously for older Blades it was a return to where we belonged and it felt very different but I'd guess that most Blades of my age saw us a 2nd/3rd tier side at that point.

I was at Stamford Bridge in 1994 and it was an awful, crushing experience. When you're 18 though and you've got heroes like Dave Bassett, Glyn Hodges and Nathan Blake to rely on, you're pretty confident you'll be straight back.

The semi-final and play-off defeats both before and after Chelsea were also incredibly hard to take. None of them compared to Wigan for me personally though. It had taken so long for us to get back into the top flight and when we'd finally done it, we had what was, again for me personally, a truly wonderful season. 30,000 crowds, beating Arsenal and Spurs at home, getting results in so many crucial games (Charlton h and a, Watford a and h, and the one when I thought we'd finally won our one-off decider - West Ham) and doing it all with a team of players and a manager that I felt I could identify with. The Holy Trinity of Monty, Tonge and Jags, Captain Morgan, the never smiling Hulse, Kazim-Richards, Nade, young Quinny - I loved them all. It helped being in my 30s as well, whereas my last experience of the top flight had been going on the club coach and sneaking the odd pint here and there. This time round there were proper sessions and great celebrations - waking up with a nightmare hangover on the backseat of my car at 5am after the Boro game and jumping up to dance and sing across the car park and walk home - happy days!

It felt like we'd arrived and, for much of early 2007, it felt like we were staying. The Wigan game was just like a bad dream and I couldn't believe it was all over. We'll never know but perhaps it was made a lot worse by having all hopes of a return extinguished so quickly with the appointment of Robson. The team who I loved so much was dismantled to be replaced by over-paid, ageing players who just didn't feel like Blades somehow. I know you should be more grown up and adult about this sort of thing when you're in your thirties but I didn't feel that way.

Walthamstow's right for me, it hasn't quite been as much 'fun' since. Is that because of Wigan or because the seasons since have been fairly dour? Suppose you don't have one without the other. There have been some memorable moments since - Sharp's winner at Oakwell in front of 7,000(ish) Blades, winning down at Reading to give ourselves a chance of automatic and the stunning performance v PNE in the 2nd leg spring to mind.

Home matches are still a great laugh, always some cracking banter - always more to laugh about than cheer about where we sit. I haven't given up hope that the good times will return, hopefully Speed will build a team who we can believe in, connect with and enjoy watching. Hopefully we'll start challenging again.

The key thing for me is that the fans, and the club, get their spirit back. I agree with Micalijo that Wigan, plus what followed, has knocked it out of us. Perhaps it's just my memory playing tricks but I don't remember such a feeling of crushing apathy and negativity around the club before. United fans always had something different I thought, a mixture of pride, humour, Sheffield Steel - we were loud, we didn't give a fuck what anyone thought of us and we'd back our team whatever. Maybe we've changed along with football but as a collective, United fans now don't seem to stand apart, we're a bit flat and moany and demanding and unrealistic and samey.

Right, that's me done. Promise I won't back up micalijo again.


COME ON YOU RED AND WHITE WIZAAAAAAAAAARDS!!!!!
 



I'm with Coops on this one. V good post.

I blame football coverage being saturated too so now every fan claims to "know" everything about tactics and players and thus make them more moany and samey.

I think supporting SUFC has changed with money coming in to the game. Maybe we were more willing to give blind encouragement to a Bob Booker who lived in a Woodseats terrace than a Billy who had (allegedly) a house in a suburb we can never afford at the age of 22.
 
I'm with Coops on this one. V good post.

I blame football coverage being saturated too so now every fan claims to "know" everything about tactics and players and thus make them more moany and samey.

I think supporting SUFC has changed with money coming in to the game. Maybe we were more willing to give blind encouragement to a Bob Booker who lived in a Woodseats terrace than a Billy who had (allegedly) a house in a suburb we can never afford at the age of 22.

Absolutely and wholeheartedly agree with the first point.

As for the second, I don't mind SUFC players having money (it doesn't automatically makes them twats), but it does create more distance between us than used to be the case.
 
I'm not always right about everything, but at least I can try to see the funny side

You have to when you end up on your arse in a kebab shop after a night out in the Leadmill.

I know it's not hugely relevant but it had to be mentioned.

:D
 
Absolutely and wholeheartedly agree with the first point.

As for the second, I don't mind SUFC players having money (it doesn't automatically makes them twats), but it does create more distance between us than used to be the case.

I don't resent them for it. I think sub conciously it makes you expect more from them because of it. I think the "distance" will become an issue over the next year or two as the country feels the effects of various govt cuts. A resentment will creep in and I can see lots of pay on the day fans everywhere dropping out. A world where crazy legs Nozzy is supposedly on a long contract of circa £25k p/w at Sunderland is a strange one.

In the first programme there was a "My week" article with Yeates. It could easily have been misconstrued, he seemed to be doing lunch and getting TWO watches fixed on Eccy Rd. How many watches does he own for two to break in the same week? I didn't get the next programme as it was back to £3 and there's a recession on.
 
I'm with Coops on this one. V good post.

I blame football coverage being saturated too so now every fan claims to "know" everything about tactics and players and thus make them more moany and samey.

I think supporting SUFC has changed with money coming in to the game. Maybe we were more willing to give blind encouragement to a Bob Booker who lived in a Woodseats terrace than a Billy who had (allegedly) a house in a suburb we can never afford at the age of 22.
I think its far more difficult to identify with players today, they are far more distant these days.
As ever, Coops manages to sum it up superbly without being awful to the much maligned Micaljo :-)
My 50th season watching the Blades is destined to be one of anonymity I fear but as ever I'll turn up out of habit and just in case miss something I'll live to regret!
Crushing disappointments aplenty in my time but on reflection i guess I can understand 30 somethings feeling that way after Wigan, I just shrugged my shoulders, drew in a large breath and thought, here we go again and proceeded to get on with life...Thats my way of dealing with my love affair with SUFC these days - 'don't let the bastards get you down'!

However, in my youth, crushing disappointments were many - Selling Mick Jones - I was 14 at the time and thought everybody was like me and wanted to play for Sheffield United - That and he went to Leeds took me ages (probably a fortnight in real time for a 14 year old) to get over. Follow that with Sherman Birchenall following quickly out of the door and relegation from the old 1st division (I'd never known anything else up to that point), it gave me a short sharp salutory lesson in the vagaries of following SUFC.
Promotion in 71 at 18 was brilliant and the feeling that gave me (especially after the Cardiff 5-1, which almost got us up) was indescribable.
Subsequent relegations were not so much crushing disappointments, but more sadness as to where the club had allowed itself to plummet due to crucial decisions being called badly at certain times in the previous 10 years or so... Much like today when the big calls have been the wrong ones.....
 
It had taken so long for us to get back into the top flight and when we'd finally done it, we had what was, again for me personally, a truly wonderful season. 30,000 crowds, beating Arsenal and Spurs at home, getting results in so many crucial games (Charlton h and a, Watford a and h, and the one when I thought we'd finally won our one-off decider - West Ham) and doing it all with a team of players and a manager that I felt I could identify with. The Holy Trinity of Monty, Tonge and Jags, Captain Morgan, the never smiling Hulse, Kazim-Richards, Nade, young Quinny - I loved them all.

Better times :)

Remember this.....

.........................Kenny..............................
....Geary......Morgan....Jagielka....Armstrong....
...Gillespie.....Tonge...Montgomery....CKR........
...................Stead......Hulse.......................

Well something along the lines of the above anyway! Now that was a proper team. For away games take a striker out and shove Leigertwood into midfield :D

Colin played pretty much everywhere that season. Of course ive ommited young Quinny in this example.....
 
Better times :)

Remember this.....

.........................Kenny..............................
....Geary......Morgan....Jagielka....Armstrong....
...Gillespie.....Tonge...Montgomery....CKR........
...................Stead......Hulse.......................

Well something along the lines of the above anyway! Now that was a proper team. For away games take a striker out and shove Leigertwood into midfield :D

Colin played pretty much everywhere that season. Of course ive ommited young Quinny in this example.....

Cracking team - so much more than the sum of the parts.

I was looking at the appearance stats the other day, think only 3 players started more games than Keef which I wouldn't have guessed.

The 4 players who are still at the club now weren't a million miles off 100 appearances between them which, given the turnover of players since, shows we do still have some sort of a link between now and then - it just doesn't feel like it sometimes.
 
Cracking team - so much more than the sum of the parts.

I was looking at the appearance stats the other day, think only 3 players started more games than Keef which I wouldn't have guessed.

Now that you've mentioned that and thinking back....that doesnt actually surprise me all that much. He was an ever present apart from when he punched Hunt in the face....twice! :D

The 4 players who are still at the club now weren't a million miles off 100 appearances between them which, given the turnover of players since, shows we do still have some sort of a link between now and then - it just doesn't feel like it sometimes.

That's because the four that are left weren't the best players, which is a sad symptom of relegation for all clubs that go down. Morgs missed quite a few games for a club captain and Monty played above himself for a lot of the season (it was one of his best IMO). Quinny was a fresh faced youngster and has gone downhill since IMO and Kozzy was an odd-job man as ever....there to make up the numbers and do his bit in certain games.

The sad reality is we kept these four instead of the likes of Hulse, Stead, Kazim-Richards and Armstrong. The talent that we've sold.....:confused:
 
coops.. great post mate..
but i tell you this.. everyone needs to get over it.. fast.. this hangover has been dragging on for years.. i think kev M. meant well when he started the tevez thing but it prolonged the agony and caused much psychological damage..
when everyone stops sulking and feeling sorry for themselves, only then will we make 'real' progress
 
A few succint observations:

We accept mediocrity far too easily.

Warnock was out of his depth in the Premier League.

The team described variously as 'proper' and 'cracking' contains half a dozen vastly over-rated parochial favourites who did not, do not and never will belong in a team with aspirations to play at the highest domestic level: Geary, Armstrong, The entire midfield! Stead.
 

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