Leon Clarke

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Oh look. Players being written off before they've even got started. I wonder where I've seen this before?
 
DronnieBlade said:
We've got a good target man already who consistently manages to retain possession of the ball, when it's not 10 feet in the air that is.

Clarke is terrible at retaining possession.

In a nutshell, that's my point.

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He wasn't when he came on against Wimbledon
 
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Pre injury he played 6 or 7 games and did fuck all.

0 league goals.
0 assists.

Ball bounced off him randomly on a consistent basis, so if that's your particular brand of Darjeeling.........

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SwissBlade said:
Which was exactly my point... I think we forget that footballers are people and not everything is about United. Even as fans, i am sure there are times when United have been the furthest thing from our mind
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Good point Swiss, and something that all supporters should be mindful of. Yes, we all love the club, sometimes too much, but a football club plays a vital role in any community and we associate with everything the club represents.....but.....it's still a lovely part of a much bigger picture but no more. People have lives, believe it or not this includes footballers. When things are going well we swan along without a care in the world, but when something negative happens it can throw that positive rhythm upside down and then some. So perhaps cut Clarke some slack, he's no different to you or I, and rather than adopt a brutal, insensitive approach to how he's supposed to behave, try and imagine how any of us might react in a similar situation.
 
I have no issue with him being moody and I think he's a decent striker. I just found it odd that he didn't seem to care how his team were getting on.
 
Pre injury he played 6 or 7 games and did fuck all.

0 league goals.
0 assists.

Ball bounced off him randomly on a consistent basis, so if that's your particular brand of Darjeeling.........

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Strongly beg to differ. Those first 3-4 games when we were crap, I couldn't fault him in the slightest.

The service to him was non-existent, just balls launched up from the back in the hope he'd do something with it. More often than not he still won the aerial battle, often against both CB's.

There wasn't a United player within a country mile of him half the time, and yet we were surprised when the knock downs and flick on's fell to their players.

The love child of Pele and Messi wouldn't have scored with the scraps he had to feed off...
 
Jehovah said:
I have no issue with him being moody and I think he's a decent striker. I just found it odd that he didn't seem to care how his team were getting on.
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"Hi, Leon - do you know that while you're sitting here on your own with that bloody great pot on your foot, your team-mates who are fit and are playing are winning 2 - 0?"
"Come on Leon, give us a smile!"
:confused:
 
Jehovah said:
I have no issue with him being moody and I think he's a decent striker. I just found it odd that he didn't seem to care how his team were getting on.
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I doubt any of us can appreciate how Clarke processes the knowledge that his dad was murdered. He may well be grieving for the loss of his dad, something that only those of a certain age can understand. I doubt if being moody best explains how he's feeling.
 
I think I am in the minority re Clarke. I think he will be a decent signing for this league , his stats back him up . It seems he is the next player who it fashionable to have a go at . He has a lazy style of play which most of our fans translate as he doesn't try and doesn't give a shit . Imo he will prove his worth over the season as he knows where the goal is and just needs a goal or 2 to get going. Think for some he can never succeed no matter what he does . I trust Wilders judgement , he hasn't got much wrong yet !!
As ever UTB!!
 
Agreed nobody will really know why he was as he was unless they're close to him.

If it was all down to him being injured and concerned about his future place in the team, I'm sure that his 3 year contract will ease his pain just a little.
 
Leon Clarke probably knew how HIS TEAM were doing, just didn't know how his employers were doing.....different things. He's allowed to be down, dejected and moody if he can't play. He's allowed to be frustrated if he sees it as a difficult task to get back into a winning team after he has healed. I would be bloody annoyed if he wasn't. Cut the guy some slack. I didn't particularly rate him when he came to us but, his scoring record is good and we need an alternative type of strike force, or partnership, so that we don't get sussed too easily. In CW, I trust. Come on Leon, get fit and show all of us just how good you are.
 



Jesus_was_a_Blade said:
Pre injury he played 6 or 7 games and did fuck all.

0 league goals.
0 assists.

Ball bounced off him randomly on a consistent basis, so if that's your particular brand of Darjeeling.........

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Strongly beg to differ. Those first 3-4 games when we were crap, I couldn't fault him in the slightest.

The service to him was non-existent, just balls launched up from the back in the hope he'd do something with it. More often than not he still won the aerial battle, often against both CB's.

There wasn't a United player within a country mile of him half the time, and yet we were surprised when the knock downs and flick on's fell to their players.

The love child of Pele and Messi wouldn't have scored with the scraps he had to feed off...[/QUOTE]

We have different memories of how he started the season. I remember him running around a lot and trying hard, I also remember him missing a couple of absolute sitters, the ball bouncing off him in all directions and his complete inability to hold the ball up.

I also remember disagreeing with a few on here who thought he should start instead of Sharp.

Running around a lot does not make you a good footballer.
 
Bartyblade said:
"Hi, Leon - do you know that while you're sitting here on your own with that bloody great pot on your foot, your team-mates who are fit and are playing are winning 2 - 0?"
"Come on Leon, give us a smile!"
:confused:
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He didn't have a pot on his foot.
 
Running around a lot does not make you a good footballer.[/QUOTE]
Wheras we have been blessed in recent years with strikers, such as Hendo Higgo and Clarke,who have all been highly proficient in the much misunderstood art of "advanced static centre forward play".

Jeez Louise :)

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DronnieBlade said:
Running around a lot does not make you a good footballer.
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Wheras we have been blessed in recent years with strikers, such as Hendo Higgo and Clarke,who have all been highly proficient in the much misunderstood art of "advanced static centre forward play".

Jeez Louise :)

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Static? In the first couple of games where Clarke played he was anything but static. Are you sure you're talking about the same player as the rest of us?
 
LJBlade said:
Wheras we have been blessed in recent years with strikers, such as Hendo Higgo and Clarke,who have all been highly proficient in the much misunderstood art of "advanced static centre forward play".

Jeez Louise :)

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Static? In the first couple of games where Clarke played he was anything but static. Are you sure you're talking about the same player as the rest of us?[/QUOTE]
I believe so.

Unless we had another utterly ineffective striker in the ranks at this time,I believe it was Leon. Tactics and lumping the ball have nothing to do with an inability to control a football.

But hey ho. He's big. Wi big muscles. Like Hendo !

Clarke ain't my cup of tea. Many of you disagree. That's fine. Maybe I'm wrong. I reckon he has a hell of s job getting back in the side.

Time will tell.

UTB
 
Ckarke will be needed as the season progresses as will Lavery, and I'd still like us to sign a bit of beast in January as I think they'll definitely be games that we'll need that type of player. The attacking version of EEL would do nicely.
 
DronnieBlade said:
Running around a lot does not make you a good footballer.
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Wheras we have been blessed in recent years with strikers, such as Hendo Higgo and Clarke,who have all been highly proficient in the much misunderstood art of "advanced static centre forward play".

Jeez Louise :)

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You're even arguing with people who agree with you now.
 
BushBlade said:
Wheras we have been blessed in recent years with strikers, such as Hendo Higgo and Clarke,who have all been highly proficient in the much misunderstood art of "advanced static centre forward play".

Jeez Louise :)

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You're even arguing with people who agree with you now.[/QUOTE]
Agreeing. Not arguing. You see what I see.

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GrayBlade said:
Ckarke will be needed as the season progresses as will Lavery, and I'd still like us to sign a bit of beast in January as I think they'll definitely be games that we'll need that type of player. The attacking version of EEL would do nicely.
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Totally and completely agree. Which is why we should have gone for a player with the best attributes of Lavery (speed) and Clarke in the one package rather than the cheap option.

A lot easier said than done I will concede.

We miss Che Adams. Badly.

Again, Che made his bed so we had a limited amount of control on this and Wilder has used the fee wisely to strengthen the squad overall.

But we miss his quality.

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DronnieBlade said:
Totally and completely agree. Which is why we should have gone for a player with the best attributes of Lavery (speed) and Clarke in the one package rather than the cheap option.

A lot easier said than done I will concede.

We miss Che Adams. Badly.

Again, Che made his bed so we had a limited amount of control on this and Wilder has used the fee wisely to strengthen the squad overall.

But we miss his quality.

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If controlling a ball with the first touch is a priority, Adams hardly fits the bill. He was shocking last season at that.
 



DronnieBlade said:
Static? In the first couple of games where Clarke played he was anything but static. Are you sure you're talking about the same player as the rest of us?
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I believe so.

Unless we had another utterly ineffective striker in the ranks at this time,I believe it was Leon. Tactics and lumping the ball have nothing to do with an inability to control a football.

But hey ho. He's big. Wi big muscles. Like Hendo !

Clarke ain't my cup of tea. Many of you disagree. That's fine. Maybe I'm wrong. I reckon he has a hell of s job getting back in the side.

Time will tell.

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If we started smashing the ball up to Sharp instead of playing to his strengths then he too would be ineffectual. Clarke isn't your 'cup of tea' based on a handful of games where the team as a whole were terrible. His previous record speaks for itself. In terms of his, extremely short, time here so far he has demonstrated ability to control a football and he has demonstrated good movement. I think your obvious bias towards the guy is clouding your judgement. You've got this strange notion that Clarke is nothing but a target man (like 'Hendo') when that couldn't be further from the truth.

The fact that you describe him as 'big with big muscles' backs up my view that we are talking about two different players. Being tall doesn't always correlate with being 'Big'.
 
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