Kop needs urgent redevelopment

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Neuschwanstein said:
Yep, spot on. Let's not get a bigger stadium we may go bankrupt.
In fact let's not have any ambition it will kill the club.
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You clearly know where the millions to pay for all this as wel as the money to assemble a squad of players to give us a chance of staying uo and an opportunity to remove debt.
Please share.
 

Flatulent_Bob said:
If you're getting that desperate for scraps your argument is lost. Just accept there isn't any real financial benefit for us to complete a significant capacity upgrade, certainly in the short to medium term, let's say 10 years.
It would be nice, but it's a vanity project that we need someone to be happy to lose a significant amount of money over in order to deliver it for us.

We then come back to the sensible approach which is wait in the short term until we know if we can establish ourselves in the PL and have the money to invest in appropriate and gradual improvements or to get an Owner who's happy to foot the bill.
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You need to understand that his expertise on this matter ( not forgetting his costings, which wouldn’t even work on Fantasy Island ) are based solely on his claim he attended a wedding meal in the function room under the Holte End at Villa Park. Absolutely nothing else :)
 
It would be typical blades good fortune to find a low interest loan for rebuilding the Kop, only to discover asbestos, or other hazardous material in all that crap hidden underneath the old Kop.

We are guaranteed to find a shedload of great crested newt, or rare bats roosting under it. Protected species found and everything grinds to a halt.

The good thing about all that rubble underneath? It prevents ideas like building in stages. If the terrace collapses, fans might land with a bump but avoid injuries associated with free fall jumps wit no parachute!

The best way forward is to carry on jogging until SCC condemn it for safety reasons. Make them responsible for compulsory purchase of the site in order to rectify it. We all know we have no money to do it!
Thank you SCC.
 
Sean Thornton said:
Do you have a link to your claim that United knew the cladding guidelines in June 21? The act came in a year later.
Odd that the Hilton signed up at the time if that’s the case. Surely they’d know this would impact on any timeline.

Perhaps the business world is full of idiots when there is all this talent on Social Media.
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The act came in then, but as you’ll know, acts go through a white paper consultation process and then once finalised, spend a length of time being passed through parliament, before becoming law. The white papers are sent out to those involved in the industry, as part of the consultation process, meaning when it does not become law, it is not a massive shock and those in the industry in question are (should be, if they’re half decent), prepared for it.

There was also a number of recommendations made prior to it becoming legislation (one in 2020), so owners of these types of buildings should have been aware of that.

Hilton will have know and that’s the point, so will have United.

Perhaps the social media world, also includes people who work in business too?
 
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S64 Blade said:
The act came in then, but as you’ll know, acts go through a white paper consultation process and then once finalised, spend a length of time being passed through parliament, before becoming law. The white papers are sent out to those involved in the industry, as part of the consultation process, meaning when it does not become law, it is not a massive shock and those in the industry in question are (should be, if they’re half decent), prepared for it.

There was also a number of recommendations made prior to it becoming legislation (one in 2020), so owners of these types of buildings should have been aware of that.

Hilton will have know and that’s the point, so will have United.

Perhaps the social media world, also includes people who work in business too?
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Fair enough but as you appear to have expertise in that field were hotels included in that legislation?
 
Sean Thornton said:
Fair enough but as you appear to have expertise in that field were hotels included in that legislation?
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My dad is the expert, not me. But, yes all multi-story buildings were recommended to investigate.

As I said a couple of posts ago, it’s just another example of United not doing proper due diligence on a business deal. Any proper legal advice would have flagged it as a very probable liability for United to need to sort, before any contracts were completed. Maybe they did know and chose to ignore, maybe they didn’t at all. We’ll of course never know, but the outcome is the same.
 
Only new hotels and hostel s over 18 m are covered by the act ,older hotels only need to comply if external renavations are being done ,there's other things to take into consideration like does the building have a sprinkler system and other fire preventions ,also what percentage of the building is clad .
 
S64 Blade said:
My dad is the expert, not me. But, yes all multi-story buildings were recommended to investigate.

As I said a couple of posts ago, it’s just another example of United not doing proper due diligence on a business deal. Any proper legal advice would have flagged it as a very probable liability for United to need to sort, before any contracts were completed. Maybe they did know and chose to ignore, maybe they didn’t at all. We’ll of course never know, but the outcome is the same.
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I made the assumption, incorrectly, that existing hotels were affected by the legislation passed in December. Similarly your timescale, white paper etc wasn’t relevant either as only new build hotels were affected. So whoever knew wasn’t important. It would appear that United are, at some point, going down the voluntary route as some others have.
 
Bladeloyal said:
Only new hotels and hostel s over 18 m are covered by the act ,older hotels only need to comply if external renavations are being done ,there's other things to take into consideration like does the building have a sprinkler system and other fire preventions ,also what percentage of the building is clad .
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So as in most 'facts' -as clear as mud and open to interpretation, and then legal challenge.

I blame McCabe - he built it.
 

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TJB. said:
I've looked at that logo about ten times today and I still can't fathom what it's supposed to be.

Looks like someone is about to decapitate a bird of some sort using a figure skate?
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What I see is a Price Tag with the Car in the middle of it. The colour scheme is fucking rank n all. 🤣
 
Rodders said:
“Carrma Corner” sounds like somehwere I’d send Jr when he’s playing up
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It's making me think of the Boy George (Culture Club) song... converted for the Kop-ites!

"Carrma Carrma Carrma Carrma Carrma Chameleon, corner sing along, corner sing along.... awwoho"
 
S40BLADE said:
What I see is a Price Tag with the Car in the middle of it. The colour scheme is fucking rank n all. 🤣
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Reminds me of one of those 'rabbit or duck' optical illusion thingies.

It's fucking honking, whatever it's supposed to be.
 
TJB. said:
I've looked at that logo about ten times today and I still can't fathom what it's supposed to be.

Looks like someone is about to decapitate a bird of some sort using a figure skate?
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That is probably one of the worst logos I have ever seen.

Although good its a local company that is sponsoring the stand.
 
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TJB. said:
I've looked at that logo about ten times today and I still can't fathom what it's supposed to be.

Looks like someone is about to decapitate a bird of some sort using a figure skate?
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Wtf ???

Its clearly the head of someone wearing a covid mask, a hat and some earphones. The earphones have slipped off and are now on his hat.

Jeez, some people…
 

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