Kieffer Moore…

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

We'd be a bigger goal threat in a 3-4-3 and probably no worse defensively

Cooper
Gilchrist Souttar Anel
Seriki Peck Souza Burrows
Sakyi Hamer
Moore

That line up above is physically excellent btw

 

[ekke287]

Relying on Moore highlights how much we needed another striker. He’ll score goals but atm our main goal threat is Hamer, so if he’s not firing then we’re not scoring.

FWIW I think he needs a rest, but not sure who I’d bring in if we’re playing one up top, as his nearest replacement, Brewster, seems to be doing better slightly behind and running in / linking up. I don’t think Brewster as a lone striker works.

Tricky problem to have but I’m very concerned we’re simply both running Moore in to the ground and also not getting the best from him atm.

 

[ancientblade]

Relying on Moore highlights how much we needed another striker. He’ll score goals but atm our main goal threat is Hamer, so if he’s not firing then we’re not scoring.

FWIW I think he needs a rest, but not sure who I’d bring in if we’re playing one up top, as his nearest replacement, Brewster, seems to be doing better slightly behind and running in / linking up. I don’t think Brewster as a lone striker works.

Tricky problem to have but I’m very concerned we’re simply both running Moore in to the ground and also not getting the best from him atm.

that was always likely to happen when we didnt bring the striker we badly needed in before the season started absolute must to bring one in in january possibly even 2 the final 3rd is our achiles just now everywhere else were as good as anything in this league

 

[Cherry Street]

France won the World Cup in 2018 by starting a striker who not only didn't score, but didn't have a shot on target.

It's unconventional, but Moore's place in our team - much like Giroud's in that France team - is about bringing together the extremely talented people around him.

Sure, Brooks isn't Mbappé (yet), but I think the characterisation that we're being bailed out by our midfield is a tad unfair.

Agree that we need a couple of new strikers in January to offer a more viable plan B.

 

[jono_t2000]

The man issue for me is altho Hamer is starting as a winger I'm reality he's playing a free role.

Which means Keiffer Moore is often having to run the channels in place of Hamer... which ultimately means Moore isn't in the box.

It's an easy fix by playing a more traditional winger on both sides who will stay wide.

eg Brooks and Rak-Sakyi and moving Hamer more centrally in place of O'hare.

 

[Alex Cheeseright]

The man issue for me is altho Hamer is starting as a winger I'm reality he's playing a free role.

Which means Keiffer Moore is often having to run the channels in place of Hamer... which ultimately means Moore isn't in the box.

It's an easy fix by playing a more traditional winger on both sides who will stay wide.

eg Brooks and Rak-Sakyi and moving Hamer more centrally in place of O'hare.

If O'Hare plays like the last few games, this may happen. He's too good to be left out but is the team better without him starting? I hope he plays a blinder Wednesday though.

 

[Blade45]

The man issue for me is altho Hamer is starting as a winger I'm reality he's playing a free role.

Which means Keiffer Moore is often having to run the channels in place of Hamer... which ultimately means Moore isn't in the box.

It's an easy fix by playing a more traditional winger on both sides who will stay wide.

eg Brooks and Rak-Sakyi and moving Hamer more centrally in place of O'hare.

Whilst I haven't been the biggest fan of Moore this season, this formation would get the best out of him. O'Hare needs a rest and Brooks is too good to not start most matches, as is Rak Sakyi. Keep the 4-2-3-1, put Brooks and Rak Sakyi on opposite wings and make them swap wings every 5 or 10 minutes. I have no idea who originally suggested that idea, but it makes me mouthwater.

Moore needs to start scoring, but it'll come. He's not a crap striker, and whilst I think Brewster should start midweek, he's not a long term solution in that area.

 

[DronnieBlade]

Absolutely.
Being up top on your own is a thankless task as it is, but our entire game plan for him is to bring O'hare, Hamer and the widemen into the game. He coves sooooo much ground.

Totally agree he needs help up there.

Harsh on Peck, but with Blaster out I would drop Gus back with Vini, drop OHare to bench and have a go with 2 strikers.

UTB

 

[crazyblade1889]

The man issue for me is altho Hamer is starting as a winger I'm reality he's playing a free role.

Which means Keiffer Moore is often having to run the channels in place of Hamer... which ultimately means Moore isn't in the box.

It's an easy fix by playing a more traditional winger on both sides who will stay wide.

eg Brooks and Rak-Sakyi and moving Hamer more centrally in place of O'hare.

This is true but it also doesn’t change the fact he’s missed at least a dozen chances, with half of those being absolute sitters.
It is possible to appreciate his work rate and hold up play whilst also appreciating that he isn’t very good in front of goal and that we will struggle to kill sides off with him in the team.

 

[Demblayards]

Give Rhian a go

 

[Houston_Blade]

If we’d signed another plausible option then I’d advocate dropping him. The other options are either poor, unfit or a combination of the two.

 

[KiwiBlabe]

This is true but it also doesn’t change the fact he’s missed at least a dozen chances, with half of those being absolute sitters.

Really at least 6 absolute sitters missed? This is not my recollection.

 

[John Street West Terrace]

Agree with a lot of the comments here , Moore is working very hard but often having to run the channels aswell as the midfield is sitting too deep . Theres a massive reliance on O’Hare in the current system to be the supporting No 10 and if he’s off it or man marked Moore becomes even more isolated .
As I’ve just said On The Side For Swansea thread CW is very loyal to his players & while ever were getting results / unbeaten he ain’t gonna tinker with that too much .
We also tend to be more lop sided with most of our attacking intent coming down the right hand side due to playing Hamer on the left who tends to come inside naturally , this has also restricted Burrows ability to get down the flank .
i think you’d absolutely see Moore play better in a front 2 or 3 for that matter where you are keeping him down the middle as a hold up player, but with pace at the side of him .
Arblasters absence has also made us a bit more one dimensional in the middle of the park . We’re still work in progress with the new players & formation & CW will persevere with this until we get a defeat .
As for some who criticising Moore I think it’s tremendously unfair , the lad is ploughing a lone furlough up there with the reliance on others to support him

 

[Keen Blade]

Relying on Moore highlights how much we needed another striker. He’ll score goals but atm our main goal threat is Hamer, so if he’s not firing then we’re not scoring.

FWIW I think he needs a rest, but not sure who I’d bring in if we’re playing one up top, as his nearest replacement, Brewster, seems to be doing better slightly behind and running in / linking up. I don’t think Brewster as a lone striker works.

Tricky problem to have but I’m very concerned we’re simply both running Moore in to the ground and also not getting the best from him atm.

Campbell ?

 

[jt64]

France won the World Cup in 2018 by starting a striker who not only didn't score, but didn't have a shot on target.

Having half a dozen players that play off a 9 that would walk into any other countries' starting line up does help

 

[dexter101]

Give Rhian a go

Replacing a forward who isn't finishing with a forward who hasn't been finishing for a couple of years doesn't really work though.

Brewster needs to score off the bench before we look to start time. Build his confidence and get him earning the shirt.

I would give Campbell a start before Brewster but I think Moore not being in the starting line up changes a lot of how we play. We won't change it until we have to through results or injury...

 

[Cherry Street]

Having half a dozen players that play off a 9 that would walk into any other countries' starting line up does help

I'd say most, if not all, of our team could do the same thing in this division.

 

[Westran]

Does Brewster's hold up play warrant him being given a place above Moore? Neither are scoring goals, so if Brewster can't give us what Moore can regarding defensive duties, hold up play and playmaking, I can't see that he should be given a place above him, maybe for O'Hare but not Moore.

 

[ancientblade]

Agree with a lot of the comments here , Moore is working very hard but often having to run the channels aswell as the midfield is sitting too deep . Theres a massive reliance on O’Hare in the current system to be the supporting No 10 and if he’s off it or man marked Moore becomes even more isolated .
As I’ve just said On The Side For Swansea thread CW is very loyal to his players & while ever were getting results / unbeaten he ain’t gonna tinker with that too much .
We also tend to be more lop sided with most of our attacking intent coming down the right hand side due to playing Hamer on the left who tends to come inside naturally , this has also restricted Burrows ability to get down the flank .
i think you’d absolutely see Moore play better in a front 2 or 3 for that matter where you are keeping him down the middle as a hold up player, but with pace at the side of him .
Arblasters absence has also made us a bit more one dimensional in the middle of the park . We’re still work in progress with the new players & formation & CW will persevere with this until we get a defeat .
As for some who criticising Moore I think it’s tremendously unfair , the lad is ploughing a lone furlough up there with the reliance on others to support him

have to agree were not getting the best out of kiefer moore in this 4231 set up would certainly be more productive in either a 433 or 4312 system

 

[Ldn_Rd_Blades]

Showed tonight what his hold up play brings to the team.

Not that Campbell did much wrong but Moore coming on really changed things.

 

[Silent Blade]

Showed tonight what his hold up play brings to the team.

Not that Campbell did much wrong but Moore coming on really changed things.

Yes, he is our best battering ram.

 

[SwitchBLADE Smiles]

The game shifted as soon as he came on & we were significantly more dangerous. Campbell will definitely offer something to the side, but a centre forward he is not.

 

[1889]

I was hoping for big things from Campbell, but he wasn’t great. I don’t know when he last played a first team game but his touch and short passing was well off the pace. Hopefully with more game time that will improve.

Keiffer Moore was far more effective when he came on and their centre half had to quickly stub his cigar out, he worked hard, made himself available and held up the ball well before bringing others into play. It was no coincidence that we had three gilt edged chances after his introduction. He is an effective target man at this level, good touch and movement, sometimes lacks awareness of teammates positions, but has the pace and work ethic that McBurnie was desperately lacking.

 

[wavy-blade]

Thats is how to play the big center forward roll bloody fantastic today

 

[jono_t2000]

Joint motm with Souza for me

 

[DronnieBlade]

Very good today .

UTB

 

[Bell4]

Joint motm with Souza for me

He was outstanding- MOM

 

[nopigfansintown]

Excellent game. Bullied them

 

[Nick Jansky]

He was outstanding- MOM

Who, Souza?

 

[Blade45]

I have been critical of him but he was great today. Perhaps he had an injury at the start of the season? Either way, good game and it’s either him or Burrows that’s motm for me.