Outgoing? John Lunsdtram

[Luke1993]

So spurs have sold a reserve with a handful of premier league games for them to Southampton for £12m? Meaning spurs have bought the Dane for £8m? Deal of the decade, if right

Yeah they've sold him for £12m but they've bought hojberg for £15m, some are reporting £17m but essentially they've bought him for 3-5m.

 

[Roygbiv]

 

[BanderSerge]

Yeah they've sold him for £12m but they've bought hojberg for £15m, some are reporting £17m but essentially they've bought him for 3-5m.

At the reported £20m fee, Levy has got a good deal. By lumping deadwood Southampton’s way, Levy has absolutely taken the piss. Whichever way you slice it, the Dane is anything between £15/20m with a year left?

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Announcing he’s on the transfer list has probably in itself knocked a million off the fee...

 

[Luke1993]

At the reported £20m fee, Levy has got a good deal. By lumping deadwood Southampton’s way, Levy has absolutely taken the piss. Whichever way you slice it, the Dane is anything between £15/20m with a year left?

Yeah I agree, but I don't think lunny will be in the same price category, we're probably looking at £10m max.

 

[Teddy]

Announcing he’s on the transfer list has probably in itself knock a million off the fee...

Agree - suppose you can hope it encourages multiple bids that then re-build the price, no guarantee at all though...

 

[Superblades]

Get some money and invest it into someone else. I hope he gets the move and wage he is after, he’s more than capable on his day at this level. I reckon he will be off to West Ham or Brighton.

If his agent has tried to pull one on the club by saying 4 other clubs are Interested and none are then it could be a Duffy situation again.

 

[robbiez666]

In a team which creates and scores little, he made some vital contributions. He looked like he'd already left when we came back after lockdown. I genuinely don't think he's that good a player and that Baldock and Bash have done a heck of a lot of covering for him. He did get in the box a lot and he did help create a fair percent of our better chances. IIt's vital that we replace that. I do believe that the whole Fantasy League stuff might have got to that big head.

 

[Blade58]

Yeah I agree, but I don't think lunny will be in the same price category, we're probably looking at £10m max.

I'm not as optimistic about Lunny as you guys. Whilst he's not done too bad, I just don't hold him in high esteem

£5m - £7m tops imo

 

[Bladeinleeds]

I don’t think he’s a brilliant player by any stretch of the imagination.

But we are going to need to replicate his goals from midfield - we need 5,6,7 goals coming from a midfielder if we don’t get an increased from the strikers.... losing his goals just increases the need to for another midfielder.

however I am sure wilder and team have a plan.

 

[bypassblade]

Scored some important goals this last season, but if we get 10m for him we've done well we don't know what he's asking for but surely the Duffy story would have told you that you cannot hold CW to ransom.

 

[Balham]

What's the big deal? He cost us bog all, if he leaves we'll make a nice profit on him, he performed out of his skin for a good chunk of last season and scored some important goals

In the context of a Premier League team, the £700k we spent on Lundstram is pocket change but in the context of a skint team just promoted from the third to the second tier it was a significant investment. Biggest fee we paid that summer I think.

At the reported £20m fee, Levy has got a good deal. By lumping deadwood Southampton’s way, Levy has absolutely taken the piss. Whichever way you slice it, the Dane is anything between £15/20m with a year left?

It's a rare deal where both sides will think they've got the better side of it. Spurs pick up a decent PL/international midfielder for a relatively low fee; Southampton get £15m for a player with less than a year left on his contract.

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

If he is still here at the start of the new season,dont pick him,because he wont bust a gut and risk injury,simple fact of life.

 

[Weasel]

Seems that Wilders patience with him has now run out. He's had his chance to sign a contract (offered back in January) so it's clear that whether you like him as a player or not, he aint going to sign a new contract.

Hope he goes pronto so that we can get as much money for him as possible.

No hard feelings, but so long JL.

 

[Addison]

The Club have put a marker down by saying if there's 4 EPL clubs out there interested lets see the colour of your money.

Time for our negotiating team to move into the big boys world and put a premium price on him. Could understand some of the values on here if it was 4 championship clubs only after him but its not if the reports to-day are accurate. Lundstram digging his heels in suggests he is aware of the interest.

If SUFC were after an EPL midfield player aged 26 who'd just completed 36 games with 5 goals and 3 assists even with only 1 year on his contract we'd be quoted figures in excess of £10 million. They wouldn't want to sell cheap to one of their rivals and would insist on a sell on clause on top. Forget the 2 and 1/2 years of obscurity Lundstram will be assessed on his 36 EPL games only in terms of value and it was considerable for a top 10 finish team.

There is also the possibility of a sell on fee we may have to pass onto Oxford. So we should squeeze as much as we can out of this and not cave in to the first bid as we have done so poorly in the past. If Lundstram wants to leave it has to be on the Clubs terms.

 

[Keen Blade]

If there are so many clubs queuing up to pay JL the wages he wants , why has none yet put in a bid ?

 

[bertieblade]

If there are so many clubs queuing up to pay JL the wages he wants , why has none yet put in a bid ?

They probably have and the players agent will know all about their interest.
Lundstram, possibly does not want more than other player in the squad just an assurance that he will play.
Playing our current system if he had more pace he would fit in at right side midfield, or a greater range of passing slot into Norwood / Berge role, but he does not and will therefore be moved on as we need someone with pace at right midfield

 

[8lade]

Said it before and will repeat:
Offer Lundstram what we can, give him a buy out clause in his contract.
He gets what he wants we get a player who we know is competent and not worried about injury as he has a contract with a guaranteed wage. If he refuses he's entering the Duffy Zone.

 

[ThatJa]

I like Lundstram, but he only really broke through this season and towards the end of the season, during the COVID stuff he seemed to be more of a defensive option, ass he passes sideways/backwards more than anyone else we have so I don't think he'd be that big of a loss if we brought in someone to replace him, like Jeff Hendrick or someone similar.

 

[LondonBlade89]

Said it before and will repeat:
Offer Lundstram what we can, give him a buy out clause in his contract.
He gets what he wants we get a player who we know is competent and not worried about injury as he has a contract with a guaranteed wage. If he refuses he's entering the Duffy Zone.

I don’t think the sticking point is a buy-out clause. He wants more money than what we’re willing to offer.

 

[8lade]

I don’t think the sticking point is a buy-out clause. He wants more money than what we’re willing to offer.

But giving him the buy out allows his agent to find him a better deal whilst guaranteeing he's not going to end up rubber-dicking himself (you made me go all 1990s there); see Duffy.
And for United we keep a committed player and if somebody comes in for him we get a fee.
I can't see a particular downside for either party, you could argue that Lundstram would command a better wage without a fee being involved but then again he might not and this gives both sides security.

 

[Ranmoorblade]

He’s lost a lot of money not signing for 6 months.

 

[Pedro's Winger]

Unless we've made a paltry offer, which seems pretty unlikely, not sure what Lunny is hoping for.
Did well last season but not sure which club is going to invite him into a regular Premier League position. Maybe West Brom?
A strange one.

 

[metalblade]

I'll be sorry to see him go as I think there is a player in there as shown in the 1st half of the season. Sadly after we brought in Sander Berge Lundstram's levels of performance can only be described as 95% cack. Obviously his agent seems to think half a season playing well deserves much more than the club are offering.
Watch out at Stoke you don't end up Lunny, now off you fuck, as Yoda would say

 

[metalblade]

But giving him the buy out allows his agent to find him a better deal whilst guaranteeing he's not going to end up rubber-dicking himself (you made me go all 1990s there); see Duffy.
And for United we keep a committed player and if somebody comes in for him we get a fee.
I can't see a particular downside for either party, you could argue that Lundstram would command a better wage without a fee being involved but then again he might not and this gives both sides security.

The only trouble is we might have to let him go when we don't have a ready made replacement for him.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Sadly after we brought in Sander Berge Lundstram's levels of performance can only be described as 95% cack.

I’ve seen that said quite a lot, and I think that’s exaggerated. There were 5 games in that immediate period from Berge signing to the season pause. I thought every time he came on for Berge in those games, he had a positive impact and contributed well. The most obvious game being Bournemouth at home. When he started against Norwich he did so on merit – and delivered that excellent cross for Sharp. This was in stark contrast to his performances in the period before Berge came in, where he was looking tired and less on it.

He was poor after lockdown though. He wasn’t the only one – though perhaps the only one that also has a contract dispute.

 

[8lade]

The only trouble is we might have to let him go when we don't have a ready made replacement for him.

At the moment he's leaving anyway.

 

[VwBlade]

Said it all when he scored against Southampton and didn't look arsed. Also the goal he scored with all the pointing at himself that followed. Thinks he's our Messi. Fuck him

 

[Whiston Blade]

We move on.

 

[Pedro Verde]

But giving him the buy out allows his agent to find him a better deal whilst guaranteeing he's not going to end up rubber-dicking himself (you made me go all 1990s there); see Duffy.
And for United we keep a committed player and if somebody comes in for him we get a fee.
I can't see a particular downside for either party, you could argue that Lundstram would command a better wage without a fee being involved but then again he might not and this gives both sides security.

He doesnt want to sign the contract that Wilder has offered him
Wilder will offer what he thinks Lundstram is worth within our wage structure
If Lundstram thinks he can get better elsewhere off you fuck