Jim Phipps

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Clough wasn't playing last night , but i am sure if he was the scoreline would have been different . I blame the players last night not Clough . Too many looked disinterested and ready for the summer holidays . In saying that it was all a bit preseason , and we all know the history of that one.

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My Lord. By the same token would you say that the managers of Bristol City, MKD, Chesterfield and Swindon had no influence over their teams' emphatic performances last night but the Preston players for example let their manager down badly and he had nothing to do with it?
 



Why do you bother
Why bother going to the games with such an ultra negative view! Mr Clough has forgotten more about football than you would ever have known in an entire lifetime - just stay at home an leave supporting Sheffield United to true Blades !
We love United we do
We love united we do
We love united we do
United we love you
I've got over last night already
 
Why do you bother
Why bother going to the games with such an ultra negative view! Mr Clough has forgotten more about football than you would ever have known in an entire lifetime - just stay at home an leave supporting Sheffield United to true Blades !

That maybe the problem. Clough has fucking forgotten everything by the looks of it :)
 
Why do you bother
Why bother going to the games with such an ultra negative view! Mr Clough has forgotten more about football than you would ever have known in an entire lifetime - just stay at home an leave supporting Sheffield United to true Blades !
I'm sorry but that is utter rubbish and an insult to fellow blades.
As strong as your opinion is well so is theirs.
That does not make them less of a blade than you are.
 
We will qualify for the play offs...

...lose in them...

.......and Nigel will still be in charge next season, Jim believes in what Nigel is doing he has said so publically

.............but of course Jim isn't having to pay to watch it.

Jim is also on the Board acting for someone else, it's not his decision as such, he's just an 'advisor'. We have no idea what kind of patience levels HRH has, I can't imagine he envisaged another season in Div 3 this time last year and will have his own thoughts on why it's gone the way it has, IF we ultimately fail.
 
I've never understood the notion that if you criticise the manager you are not supporting the team.

If someone didn't back Hitler/ Pinocett/Franco when they were in charge, does it make them less of a
German/ Argentinian/ Spaniard?

Suppression of those that hold a differing viewpoint, cannot be seen as a valid judgement.
Loyalty does not equate to blindly following.
 
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That maybe the problem. Clough has fucking forgotten everything by the looks of it :)

Did he ever know anything? A long (eleven years) and almost entirely unsucessful stint in the fifth and sixth tiers at Burton saw him 'selected' by Derby. Now a list of former Derby 'managers' ranks with ours in terms of ineptitude. Billy McEwan (twice), Arthur Cox, Phil Brown, Billy Davies and Paul 'Jimmy' Jewell. Now Jewell's record needs revisiting:
  • Derby became the first team in Premier League history to be relegated before the end of March in the 2007-8 season. They eventually finished on the lowest points tally ever, amassing only 11 points, including just one victory all season.
However...
  • Jewell did lead Derby to their first League Cup semi-final in 40 years! Fuck the league form! What a manager, eh?
and to prove his 'United' credentials (and the fact that United can be relied on to end other teams' abysmal records (last night was Yeovil Town’s first clean sheet since January 24th’s 0-0 against Coventry City ) when...
  • ...he recorded his first league win as Derby manager after 10 months in the job when his side defeated Sheffield United 2–1 on 13 September 2008.
So that's our next manager sorted, then!
 
Why do you bother
Why bother going to the games with such an ultra negative view! Mr Clough has forgotten more about football than you would ever have known in an entire lifetime - just stay at home an leave supporting Sheffield United to true Blades !
I think we get your point of view without the overuse of exclamation marks !
 
We should have got rid of him 2 months ago.

I do hope we go up through the play offs but with this squad negative has assembled it is probably 99% unlikely.

If we do go up I would get rid of him then. He just doesnt fill me with any faith what so ever that he could build a side capable of competing week in week out.

The football we are playing is not good to watch, the build up play is so slow and predictable it is so easy to defend against, especially when you don't have height, strength or pace in the side. The team lacked these when he got the job and he as not signed people to improve these area.

I'll be there Saturday, and at Orient and Chessie and the play off games and I'll be supporting the blades but it doesn't mean I have to back or like the manager

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OK so if you were in charge you'd keep him now but get rid if we got up? At least that's the brave decision, but I think it would be wrong. Clough's kind of long-term vision for the squad is great for the Championship and I think we'd get more opportunity to play our game. His record of mid-table consistency in the Championship is what we need for a couple of seasons after we go up.

The only scenario in which the board sack him this post-season I think is a horrible collapse these next 3 games and we don't even make the play-offs. That would be too much failure.

I am no ardent supporter of Clough - I want a manager who instills more of a winning mentality, ideally. Last night was in many respects a classic example - building up of a rubbish team in the press beforehand, toothless and insipid performance follows.

But, accepting it's very unlikely they are going to sack him, why work yourself into so much of a frenzy?!
 
It might be, but I find visibility that demonstrates that our chairman is despondent and cares that we lost reassuring in a way!
Yeah, it's good that he cares but airing it publicly like that after a game (especially as we'd been on a decent run before then) doesn't really help anyone.
 
Don't be so sure we'll qualify for the play offs, by no means secure yet. We need at least 2-3 points, can see rochdale getting 9/10 more points with their games.

Problem we find ourselves in now is that we have to win against Bradford - yet we've seen it before when the pressure is on in a big home game - it wouldn't be a surprise if Bradford turn us over. Then away at orient we'll get a point, meaning it could come down to the final game where we need at least a draw...could see us playing for a point against Chezzie and losing. Missing out on the play offs.

The Bradford game is massive this weekend.

Alternatively, we win and Rochdale lose on Saturday and it's all over.
We can give our key players three weeks to rest and recuperate before the Play-off Semi.

That seems just as likely a scenario to me and it help me sleep better to look on the bright side ;)
 



Alternatively, we win and Rochdale lose on Saturday and it's all over.
We can give our key players three weeks to rest and recuperate before the Play-off Semi.

That seems just as likely a scenario to me and it help me sleep better to look on the bright side ;)

My prediction: we don't win any of the last 3 games, but Rochdale falter at some point.
 
Yeah, it's good that he cares but airing it publicly like that after a game (especially as we'd been on a decent run before then) doesn't really help anyone.

Well my take on it is he's posting as a fan. I

really like that he does this sort of thing. It is open to misinterpretation, but I think he's decided the pros outweigh the cons. For me he's right.

If he didn't respond then there's every chance the criticism would be criticisms out how he doesn't care bc he's distant and aloof.

Damned if he does. Damned if he doesn't.
 
Did he ever know anything? A long (eleven years) and almost entirely unsucessful stint in the fifth and sixth tiers at Burton saw him 'selected' by Derby. Now a list of former Derby 'managers' ranks with ours in terms of ineptitude. Billy McEwan (twice), Arthur Cox, Phil Brown, Billy Davies and Paul 'Jimmy' Jewell. Now Jewell's record needs revisiting:
  • Derby became the first team in Premier League history to be relegated before the end of March in the 2007-8 season. They eventually finished on the lowest points tally ever, amassing only 11 points, including just one victory all season.
However...
  • Jewell did lead Derby to their first League Cup semi-final in 40 years! Fuck the league form! What a manager, eh?
and to prove his 'United' credentials (and the fact that United can be relied on to end other teams' abysmal records (last night was Yeovil Town’s first clean sheet since January 24th’s 0-0 against Coventry City ) when...
  • ...he recorded his first league win as Derby manager after 10 months in the job when his side defeated Sheffield United 2–1 on 13 September 2008.
So that's our next manager sorted, then!


If theres a record to be broken or run to be ended. You can say 100% that when playing us. It will br broken/ended etc.
 
It might be, but I find visibility that demonstrates that our chairman is despondent and cares that we lost reassuring in a way!
Of course, it's good in that sense but the team already have the fans on their back and having the chairman saying he is speechless probably isn't going to help things and just ruin the mood in the dressing room.
I'm hoping it has the opposite effect and it makes the slacker's (apparently we were very lazy last night, wasn't there) work harder in the remaining fixtures.
 
Of course, it's good in that sense but the team already have the fans on their back and having the chairman saying he is speechless probably isn't going to help things and just ruin the mood in the dressing room.
I'm hoping it has the opposite effect and it makes the slacker's (apparently we were very lazy last night, wasn't there) work harder in the remaining fixtures.

Im hoping the mood in the dressing room didnt need ruining they should all be in a bad mood losing to
bottom of the table Yeovil in the manner they did
 
Jim is also on the Board acting for someone else, it's not his decision as such, he's just an 'advisor'. We have no idea what kind of patience levels HRH has, I can't imagine he envisaged another season in Div 3 this time last year and will have his own thoughts on why it's gone the way it has, IF we ultimately fail.

That's always assuming he still gives a shit.
 
I think Jim is being very kind to the manager and players, in his shoes I certainly would not be speechless. We are Sheffield United a big club in one of the country's top six cities and we should be setting certain standards, if the manager can't cut it in a low division with massive resources behind him or the players are not able to perform in front of big crowds on a consistent basis then to be honest they have no place and no future at Sheffield United. We are not here to massage the delicate ego's of players or handsomely pay managers for failure if they can't do it let them all fuck off there are plenty who would jump at the chance to be at such a huge well supported club. About time they grew some bollocks and played with some heart, you would think this lot had no pride in what they do.
 
Well my take on it is he's posting as a fan. I

really like that he does this sort of thing. It is open to misinterpretation, but I think he's decided the pros outweigh the cons. For me he's right.

If he didn't respond then there's every chance the criticism would be criticisms out how he doesn't care bc he's distant and aloof.

Damned if he does. Damned if he doesn't.

He's not dammed if he doesn't, no one expects a chairman to go on Twitter and post reactionary things after games. I think we would all prefer that he doesn't. We don't expect McCabe to do it and criticize him if he doesn't.

I like Phipps a lot, but these types of comments just create fuss and extra pressure for Clough, must be a nightmare as a manager when your chairman publicly posts things like that.
 
He's not dammed if he doesn't, no one expects a chairman to go on Twitter and post reactionary things after games. I think we would all prefer that he doesn't. We don't expect McCabe to do it and criticize him if he doesn't.

I like Phipps a lot, but these types of comments just create fuss and extra pressure for Clough, must be a nightmare as a manager when your chairman publicly posts things like that.

The Peterborough chairman did it to Ferguson , and when that happens , there is only one person who loses his job. We have no idea whats happening behind closed doors at the lane , to make him send the tweet he did . The guys no idiot and decorum his king in his profession . However all sense goes out of the window with football.

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Which do you think made Clough uncomfortable

1 - twitter comments

or

2 - Fans reactions after the game

or

3 - Neither bothers him

Both of the first two probably in different ways - to have your boss publicly stir things up is going to be uncomfortable and I'm pretty sure he doesn't like the fans reactions - beacause it means he/the team aren't succeeding, and to question neither bother him would be to say he doesn't care which is ludicrous.

It winds me up when people suggest Clough doesn't care, of course he cares! Do people think he wants to lose games, not get promoted. It's his reputation and career on the line, he's the one who gets abuse shouted at him, he's the one who has sleepless nights trying to get us promoted and ultimately he's the one who will lose his job if he isn't successful. Fans are welcome to debate whether he's doing a good job, whether he's good enough, but to say he doesn't care is just plan nonsense.

Back to Phipps. he should keep his counsel and not post reactionary things. It doesn't help anyone. The biggest part of building a successful team in any industry is trust, not sure his postings will build much trust between him and Clough - unless he ran it by Clough first.
 
Which do you think made Clough uncomfortable

1 - twitter comments

or

2 - Fans reactions after the game

or

3 - Neither bothers him
Whilst it is a formidable attitude in some people never to be wrong (the wife springs to mind ) I get the feeling he has got this off his dad I fear unlike Brian he never seems to have a plan b !!! His dad always built his teams on good solid no nonsense defenders then surrounded them with good footballers but we need to give him time to get it right ! Get us up through the play offs then give him preseason and 10 games to put the shortcomings right eg 2 dedicated centre halves and a bully of a centre forward I think most of the squad is good enough for the championship
 
Underneath this post is a photograph of the exact ammount of fucks given by clough ,phippsy and me about anything tweeted about sufc this week













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