January Transfer Window

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Chuffed to see things are moving but the most important position to fill is still CB. It's also the one with least happening and with suggestions that don't excite me. There don't seem to be many good options in England, so should we cast our net further?

Koki Machida may be worth a look. 6" 3' left footed 27 year old Japanese international playing in Belgium for Union SG. Always thought we should have gone for Warislav Krejci but think that so has sailed. Any others out there?
 

SUFCinks said:
best transfer window in our history... how come? Cooper & Soutar are good signings but what makes the rest the best in our history?
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A beast of a centre half from the prem
The best keeper in the champ
The best LB in L1
One of the best attacking midfielders in the champ
A cultured young RB/RCB from top six club
An in-demand young winger from the prem
Found a suitable home for Max Lowe 🤭
Kept all our most coveted players
Pissed off Leeds in the process

Team taken us top of the league

We did ok ⚔️
 
103SecondsOfMagic said:
A beast of a centre half from the prem
The best keeper in the champ
The best LB in L1
One of the best attacking midfielders in the champ
A cultured young RB/RCB from top six club
An in-demand young winger from the prem
Found a suitable home for Max Lowe 🤭
Kept all our most coveted players
Pissed off Leeds in the process

Team taken us top of the league

We did ok ⚔️
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O’hare is improving but been generally underwhelming. Burrows is OK, good from set pieces and OK defensively but poor in possession. Gilchrist is OK. Rak Saki has been underwhelming.

Soutar, very good. Cooper has been very good.

Hardly the best in our history.
 
SUFCinks said:
O’hare is improving but been generally underwhelming. Burrows is OK, good from set pieces and OK defensively but poor in possession. Gilchrist is OK. Rak Saki has been underwhelming.

Soutar, very good. Cooper has been very good.

Hardly the best in our history.
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I think you are forgetting the state the squad was in. The current one was good enough to get the club in the automatic places for much of the season. That's pretty fucking good.
 
It's all about expectations. I thought we got decent money for players I didn't rate and removed some big wages. I don't think we could resist the Osula offer so I was relatively happy with the outgoings. Of those we signed I expected very little of Shackleton and I thought Rak Sakyi would do more so I'm a little bit disappointed there. All the other five have been as good or better than I hoped so I consider it was a good window. Even if we sign five players we're after this time I don't expect them all to do the business - I personally don't expect as much from BBD as some fans seem to. I hope I'm wrong.
 
Berkshire Blade said:
I think you are forgetting the state the squad was in. The current one was good enough to get the club in the automatic places for much of the season. That's pretty fucking good.
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The statement 'best transfer window in our history' I still don't agree with. It's not. we made 2 very good signings and the rest have been OK. If the aim is to rebuild a squad capable of getting and surviving in the prem then we have accumulated 1 player capable of that in Cooper.
 
SUFCinks said:
The statement 'best transfer window in our history' I still don't agree with. It's not. we made 2 very good signings and the rest have been OK. If the aim is to rebuild a squad capable of getting and surviving in the prem then we have accumulated 1 player capable of that in Cooper.
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But you are forgetting Chris worked in that window with a positive net spending balance and reduced the wage bill at the same time. That window wasn't about being capable of "getting to and surviving in the prem", it was about the start of a rebuild and change of playing culture to stop the rot and realistically aiming to get into the play offs. Chris (and the wider recruitment team of course) wheeled and dealed magnificently.

That window was about dousting the raging flames and trying to replace the worn out fire engines at the same time without a budget.
 
Snake said:
But you are forgetting Chris worked in that window with a positive net spending balance and reduced the wage bill at the same time. That window wasn't about being capable of "getting to and surviving in the prem", it was about the start of a rebuild and change of playing culture to stop the rot and realistically aiming to get into the play offs. Chris (and the wider recruitment team of course) wheeled and dealed magnificently.

That window was about dousting the raging flames and trying to replace the worn out fire engines at the same time without a budget.
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Yeh, nice. But it wasn't the best transfer window in our history which is the main point i'm trying to reiterate. If the change of playing culture is one of the factors then that has not materialised yet either. We are just playing against much lower quality opponents. The style of football is still quite basic. It's effective but basic. There was some good business, some bad business, and some in-between in that window IMO. A mixed bag.

It was one of the most important windows, but I don't think we nailed it IMO.
 
SUFCinks said:
The statement 'best transfer window in our history' I still don't agree with. It's not. we made 2 very good signings and the rest have been OK. If the aim is to rebuild a squad capable of getting and surviving in the prem then we have accumulated 1 player capable of that in Cooper.
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The aim would have been to build a squad capable of being in the promotion race but the takeover and prince unwilling/unable to spend more meant we had to pull a few punches and yet we still can't out of it with a side that wilder could work with to get us where we are today.

Considering we got rid of deadwood and didn't lose anything on them on top it's a huge success!
 
SUFCinks said:
The statement 'best transfer window in our history' I still don't agree with. It's not. we made 2 very good signings and the rest have been OK. If the aim is to rebuild a squad capable of getting and surviving in the prem then we have accumulated 1 player capable of that in Cooper.
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I think this seasons aim was to build a squad to get us to the Premier League, not to survive in it. The latter would be great, but was totally unrealistic in the context of our financial circumstances. If we succeed in getting there, then I hope for a different scale of rebuild over the summer, with PL funding and new owner backing squarely behind us.
 
SUFCinks said:
The statement 'best transfer window in our history' I still don't agree with. It's not. we made 2 very good signings and the rest have been OK. If the aim is to rebuild a squad capable of getting and surviving in the prem then we have accumulated 1 player capable of that in Cooper.
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The aim was to rebuild a mess of a squad which was littered with shite and had no confidence. It necessitated one of the biggest overhauls in our history (I assume) and needed to be done with fuck all money. Most fans didn't expect us to challenge for the top 2, many worried about going into free fall.

We sold many of our poorest players for very good fees and loaned out others. We sold a youngster who had yet to really produce for the first team for a large amount. The players we brought in have had us top of the league for most of the season, and many could be sold for more than we bought them for a few months ago.

To expect to build a squad capable of surviving in the PL while in the Championship (with a skint owner) is laughable anyway, but particularly so given the context above. Getting promoted is difficult, ask the numerous clubs who have failed, with and without parachute payments. The summer window was objectively a massive success, which is further demonstrated by every neutral pundit saying so. That some of our own fans think otherwise is baffling.
 
loveWalrusDaveTheBlade said:
I think this seasons aim was to build a squad to get us to the Premier League, not to survive in it. The latter would be great, but was totally unrealistic in the context of our financial circumstances. If we succeed in getting there, then I hope for a different scale of rebuild over the summer, with PL funding and new owner backing squarely behind us.
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My bad, i don’t think I communicated this very well. But i didn’t expect a whole first 11 of prem quality players to arrive but the quality of the signings I think we wanted a few that had the potential of making the step up to the prem. Not ready made prem players.

I totally agree that expecting loads of prem players in that window is unrealistic.
 
I wonder where CW sees BBD playing this time? Played more of a left forward before (abit like where Hamer is playing) but he would have to move players about if he did that again?
 
Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou said:
I wonder where CW sees BBD playing this time? Played more of a left forward before (abit like where Hamer is playing) but he would have to move players about if he did that again?
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You could easily play Diaz up front instead of any of O'Hare/Brewster /Moore /Campbell and he'd look lightyears ahead of any of them.

Not saying we will, but I'd have no problem with that.
 

brereton could easily play left side of a front 2 which imo is how we should be lining up wilder might suprise us tonight and play bbd with campbell in a front 2
 
ancientblade said:
brereton could easily play left side of a front 2 which imo is how we should be lining up wilder might suprise us tonight and play bbd with campbell in a front 2
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I wouldn't be starting bbd just yet..he,s hardly played this season..I,d build his minutes up gradually rather than throw him straight in and risk a muscle injury.
 
We need to see movement on new CB and DM ASAP.

Wilder got it so wrong first half but turned it round second half. That said we looked shaky against 10 men for last 10-12mins. Peck played well but he’s not commanding enough in CM. Much better when Burrows went LB.
 
Blade56 said:
We need to see movement on new CB and DM ASAP.

Wilder got it so wrong first half but turned it round second half. That said we looked shaky against 10 men for last 10-12mins. Peck played well but he’s not commanding enough in CM. Much better when Burrows went LB.
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In an ideal situation Peck would have followed the Arblaster path and gone out on loan. However the lad has done well, he's given everything he's got but he's flagging, lacking in certain areas and that's because he's been chucked in due to the lack squad depth. If we go up a loan to a good Championship side would suit, if we don't go up he's a great squad player at the this level.
 
Younger Dryas Blade said:
In an ideal situation Peck would have followed the Arblaster path and gone out on loan. However the lad has done well, he's given everything he's got but he's flagging, lacking in certain areas and that's because he's been chucked in due to the lack squad depth. If we go up a loan to a good Championship side would suit, if we don't go up he's a great squad player at the this level.
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Not having a go at Peck. Just needs Souza et al playing with him to do the more physical stuff. Agree he must be knackered and we have to play ahgain in 3 days
 
Blade56 said:
Not having a go at Peck. Just needs Souza et al playing with him to do the more physical stuff. Agree he must be knackered and we have to play ahgain in 3 days
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I understand that 56 Pennywise.
He's done the best he could possibly have done under the circumstances.
 
Eels said:
It's all about expectations. I thought we got decent money for players I didn't rate and removed some big wages. I don't think we could resist the Osula offer so I was relatively happy with the outgoings. Of those we signed I expected very little of Shackleton and I thought Rak Sakyi would do more so I'm a little bit disappointed there. All the other five have been as good or better than I hoped so I consider it was a good window. Even if we sign five players we're after this time I don't expect them all to do the business - I personally don't expect as much from BBD as some fans seem to. I hope I'm wrong.
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Based on what? He'll be fine when he loses the stone he's put on & gets some minutes under his belt
 
ancientblade said:
brereton could easily play left side of a front 2 which imo is how we should be lining up wilder might suprise us tonight and play bbd with campbell in a front 2
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He needs to be running at defenders from the left, not playing with his back to goal,also I think he'll probably do most of his work from 60 mins on, when defenders are tiring
 
Clearly not going to sign a CB like Harry Souttar this season but what about his brother at Rangers? Closest we'll get 🤣
 

Does anyone know, if Des Taylor is still part of our recruitment team?
I thought the standard of our recruitment improved significantly when he was involved in the summer.
This window seems to be a more wilder led window,eg Brereton Diaz, and Hamza both played for him before.
Hope Taylor is still involved, as I have more confidence in him than whoever brought in the likes of Grbic.
 
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