It's Wilder and Knill I feel sorry for most.

[GreasyChipBeattie]

The players do their best, which is greatly appreciated and it's sad to see their dejection after giving their all.
The reality is, that against average teams we look like world beaters.
Against better teams we have periods of looking like world beaters, but in the main, we look ordinary (to poor at times)
CW and AK obviously have something very good about them as a management team.
They must be so frustrated, having got the best out of a squad that the vast majority of managers would have fail miserably with, knowing they would probably be able to smash this league with enough money to do what they want to do, rather than what they have to do, which is toe the party line.
This isn't a dig at the McCabe or Princey, but CW understands and humbly accepts what he has to work with, but an ambitious, capable management duo won't put up with it for ever, and I for one wouldn't blame them.

 

[Sean Thornton]

The players do their best, which is greatly appreciated and it's sad to see their dejection after giving their all.
The reality is, that against average teams we look like world beaters.
Against better teams we have periods of looking like world beaters, but in the main, we look ordinary (to poor at times)
CW and AK obviously have something very good about them as a management team.
They must be so frustrated, having got the best out of a squad that the vast majority of managers would have fail miserably with, knowing they would probably be able to smash this league with enough money to do what they want to do, rather than what they have to do, which is toe the party line.
This isn't a dig at the McCabe or Princey, but CW understands and humbly accepts what he has to work with, but an ambitious, capable management duo won't put up with it for ever, and I for one wouldn't blame them.

Everyone can see how well Wilder is doing with what he has to work with. There will be attractive job offers after this season.

 

[Large Mendonca]

The players do their best, which is greatly appreciated and it's sad to see their dejection after giving their all.
The reality is, that against average teams we look like world beaters.
Against better teams we have periods of looking like world beaters, but in the main, we look ordinary (to poor at times)
CW and AK obviously have something very good about them as a management team.
They must be so frustrated, having got the best out of a squad that the vast majority of managers would have fail miserably with, knowing they would probably be able to smash this league with enough money to do what they want to do, rather than what they have to do, which is toe the party line.
This isn't a dig at the McCabe or Princey, but CW understands and humbly accepts what he has to work with, but an ambitious, capable management duo won't put up with it for ever, and I for one wouldn't blame them.

.....and that's what worries me

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Wilder has hugely overachieved with what he has at his disposal. He has been immense.

It will be such a sad day when he moves on due to lack of backing.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Wilder has hugely overachieved with what he has at his disposal. He has been immense.

It will be such a sad day if he moves on due to lack of backing.

Edited, keep the faith

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Edited, keep the faith

What did it say? FOTH?

 

[georgebernardshaw]

What did it say? FOTH?

What?

 

[Rob86]

Let’s see what the loan budget is in January. And that can be a few million depending on who we are after.

I take your point about the club with a pot of cash coming in for them, but neither have been tested with that yet.

It’s easy to say if they had £20m they'd get a team promoted. They’ve no experience with big timers or foreign players so it’d be 50/50 and they won’t go go to a Prem club for that reason yet IMO.

 

[S40BLADE]

If all we get in Jan is the Shane Longs and Andy Carrols of the world i just give up

 

[boo radley]

If all we get in Jan is the Shane Longs and Andy Carrols of the world i just give up

Carols in January! Whatever next January sales in December?

 

[Rodley]

Rough sketch. Had hoped McCabe & Captain Bogroll would chuck in £25m each.

 

[Topplayersleave]

They can only work with the tools available
I've said it no end of times, we generally get our results against the also rans and strugglers in the League

Any time we come up against a good side with the right attitude we lose.
There will always be 10-11 teams that struggle for whatever reason, they are off form, or they are going through a bad time, or they have players that don't care or a manager that the fans want out.

This is where our points come from, and we could lose to any of them as well if they turn up with the right attitude on any particular day, it's just that they don't more often than not.

 

[Hillsboro Blade]

After watching United for nearly forty years a sense of apathy has come over me. The best Manager we’ve ever had and the wankers in charge are fucking it up as per usual. It’s been ingrained in our club psyche from day one. Do those fuckheads bickering in court realise the opportunity we have with this man in charge of our team? Very sad and so very, very United. Fuck off.

 

[BigBed]

You may all disagree you may not, but, Wilder is starting with the wrong 11, what i mean is, that when he makes substitutions later on in games, the quality from the bench is......gash.
Think about it, it's very rare a sub makes an impact, unless it's, Sharp, Duffy, Mcgoldrick or Clarke, no matter who else comes on, in particular Johnson, they do fuck all.
Now, if we started with Duffy on the bench, or Billy on the bench, we'd have half a chance of getting something in the later stages, Billy proved that last week!
The way we play is a joy to watch, until the legs start to go because of the tempo.
Last night, Duffy burnt out, game changed, Fleck had a bad game, i think he needs a rest. Coutts came on and immediately cancelled Norwood out of the game, Washington takes time to get into the game, but we didn't have time, we all know about Johnson.........enough said.
Mcgoldrick got tired and just stopped doing anything and ultimately, we just fell apart again.
We need to start playing the likes of Washington from the off, and we definitely need some young legs, we really miss Brooks, I just hope Wilder sees this and we see Smith etc starting to break through.

 

[lakedistblade]

My thought watching was if wilder and knill can get this out of a team with some average quality players imagine what they would do with a team like West Bromor Derby - absolutely smash it. Certainly can't blame them formoving on and if ownership not resolved we would be badly affected. As said above this agony is so United.

 

[Bladezz]

I said the same last night they will leave.

 

[Sheffsteel]

I said the same last night they will leave.

That’s not saying much, every manager leaves at some point.

The question is when?
I predict possibly the middle of next season if next season is same old...same old, which it’s likely to be.

 

[S64 Blade]

That’s not saying much, every manager leaves at some point.

The question is when?
I predict possibly the middle of next season if next season is same old...same old, which it’s likely to be.

End of this season.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Also think the main issue is “the right club” coming in the Wilder.
Really doubt any PL will be interested as it’s far too risky.

It would need to be a top end Championship with as much/ if not more potential and ambition than us.

Would need to a Forest, Derby, Leeds, Boro etc.
And will those clubs want someone like Wilder? It’s not an obvious yes.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Also think the main issue is “the right club” coming in the Wilder.
Really doubt any PL will be interested as it’s far too risky.

It would need to be a top end Championship with as much/ if not more potential and ambition than us.

Would need to a Forest, Derby, Leeds, Boro etc.
And will those clubs want someone like Wilder? It’s not an obvious yes.

I think an ambitious championship club within 30 miles / 1 hour drive. I'd agree with the clubs you've mentioned, and as a wildcard, i'd also say Huddersfield when they go down this season. Their next manager could have parachute payments and near enough a blank canvas to work with.

 

[Yellarbellyblade]

Also think the main issue is “the right club” coming in the Wilder.
Really doubt any PL will be interested as it’s far too risky.

It would need to be a top end Championship with as much/ if not more potential and ambition than us.

Would need to a Forest, Derby, Leeds, Boro etc.
And will those clubs want someone like Wilder? It’s not an obvious yes.

There’s a lot of truth in that. For whatever reason even lower end PL teams don’t seem to look at him, Southampton being the latest example, so as it stands only a top end Championship club would be interested and most of them already have young new breed managers so there are actually very few that would be a step up from us and at the same time look at him. Sad indictment of the narrow mindedness of many clubs but in the short term to our advantage. Can’t rely on this being the case for too long though.

 

[JayGreen17]

If Wilder leaves because of no ambition and lack of funds from either owner then they both better piss off because we’ll be in up roar.

 

[JayGreen17]

Also lets be honest - the budget issue of last season that Wilder had issues with hasn’t changed at all this season, in fact it’s probably worse we have spent 0 in fact were very much in credit, it’s only because he received a better salary that he’s still here, the budget issues still remain and will continue to be an issue bubbling under the surface whist the clowns in charge are still here.

For me I can not believe a club our size hasn’t had offers to be bought out.

 

[wavy-blade]

Leicester are reported to be lining up to get read of their manager in some papers , they are just the right size club for a step up for Chris, but naaa he won't go , will he

 

[bromtom]

Leicester are reported to be lining up to get read of their manager in some papers , they are just the right size club for a step up for Chris, but naaa he won't go , will he

They won the premier league a few years ago, and have had Ranieri and Puel as their recent managers, both continental with Champions League experience.

Shakespeare was their assistant when they won the league so that's how that anomaly got in, but he only lasted 5 months as permanent manager.

I know it's in our nature as Blades to be pessimistic but you can't go around thinking every sacking means Wilder and Knill are off. I don't see why they'd sack Puel, they're going alright to say they only have one decent striker and have lost Mahrez, but if they do I think they'll be looking for someone more proven.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

I think an ambitious championship club within 30 miles / 1 hour drive. I'd agree with the clubs you've mentioned, and as a wildcard, i'd also say Huddersfield when they go down this season. Their next manager could have parachute payments and near enough a blank canvas to work with.

Why would Huddersfield sack the Kraut?

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Why would Huddersfield sack the Kraut?

Having experienced top level management, I think that David Wagner would leave and manage elsewhere, possibly back in the Bundesliga in Germany. He's been at Huddersfield since 2015 and i think he's took them as far as he can, and they'll be relegated this season.

As a generality, I always think that when a team goes down from the prem to the championship, it's time to clear out the staff & players and re-set yourselves as a club, and that definitely applies to Huddersfield, their squad is unbalanced.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Having experienced top level management, I think that David Wagner would leave and manage elsewhere, possibly back in the Bundesliga in Germany. He's been at Huddersfield since 2015 and i think he's took them as far as he can, and they'll be relegated this season.

As a generality, I always think that when a team goes down from the prem to the championship, it's time to clear out the staff & players and re-set yourselves as a club, and that definitely applies to Huddersfield, their squad is unbalanced.

Understand your thinking on the managers stance but I'd recon that Huddersfield would do all they could to keep him.

 

[Sheffsteel]

People ask why big clubs aren’t coming in for Wilder.

It’s the same reason why many of our fans would be so underwhelmed if we appointed the Cowley brothers at Lincoln or Mark Cooper at Forest Green.

I keep saying Wilder has very little relevant experience for a big job. He’s no experience of egos, highly paid players, no experience with foreign players, no experience of having a big transfer budget, no experience of pressure and expectation.

Wilder would be a massive gamble even for a top end Championship club. Also I wouldn’t feel too sorry for him as he’s never had it so good. Remember he’s spent most of his management at non league and league 2 level.

He also has a salary and a transfer budget he could only dream of a few years ago. Suppose he will have regrets if he doesn’t try to test himself at the highest level.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Some of our fans overrate CW's worth to OTHER clubs. Please note to OTHER clubs not United.

Both he and his management team are good - perhaps very good, possibly exceptional, but they have zero experience of managing quality players on lots and lots of dosh. Premier league chairmen, a lot of which are from foreign lands need and want instant success or it's the chop. The upper echelons are full of it and now that numerous Championship clubs are foreign owned the opportunities will be limited.

For sure there may be a few who may give him a chance and Sunderland was a good call considering where they had dropped to and Wilders ability to do what's required to lower league teams. There's a massive gap between 2nd and 3rd tiers now.

The Prince is a danger to CW for me if he gets control - there is bound to be someone in the prince's ear and CW doesn't suffer fools gladly, plus the prince has history bringing in the Dutch fella recently.

I hope CW realises that he WILL get us out of this division - maybe not with this squad though, just hopes he stays to build another. Better the devil you know sometimes.

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