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Missing chance after chance aint helping the cause, if we don't bring signings in over the next few days/weeks my mojo will be waning in a big way. Surely the board will back cw with some of the che money to put it right, cos its obvious we are still poor. :(
 
Weasel said:
Give over. Yes most of the players we have had recently have had a attitude that stunk the place out and were quite rightly given the cold shoulder by the fans at the lap of shame after the scunnie game (pity Higgo and Collins had had already gone) but who brought this set of losers in to the club in the first place and who had them strolling around as if they didnt have a clue about what they were doing and showing a 'i couldnt give a toss attitude'? Clearly its the managers fault. Now we can all disagree about who is at fault most ...Weir...Clough...Adkins...the Board...but ultimately no one made the players fo out on to the pitch and stroll about like they were playing testimonials and not doing the basics of their jobs while they were being handsomely paid. The players bar the odd exception were a disgrace last season but it is the managers who brought em in and who should inspire them to better things.
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So who recruits these useless managers? You see we keep blaming the manager then sacking him. Then we get another one and we keep going backwards.

If you looked at it like a business rather than a football club, you would blame the people who keep getting these shit managers in, no?
 
I think in the 7 years i've been on this forum, i've said at the start of every season, lets see where we are in 10 games... Fair enough we've still been shite after 10 games, but i think to take a reaction after 1-3 games is always going to be knee-jerk, especially when one of those games in the JPT like last night.

I paid little to no interest in the game last night and i don't think its really a measure of where we will be later in the season. From what i have read from Saturdays game there were holes in the side, we lacked creativity, pace and we had no shots. Apparently last night we had some shots and looked ok in the first half, but we didn't close the game as well as tiring.

We've lost a lot of players and we've also brought a lot of new players in, so there will be a period of settling, naturally, as players find their feet in an evolving team. I'd take a guess that the side that starts this season will be a little different in 10 games time.
 
Blade56 said:
The hard talking interviews are wearing thin already, fix it or do one
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agree totally - I like the hard talk, but it has to be followed with action or CW will be sussed very very quickly.

Unfortunately, CW has backed himself in a corner with the hard talk - we will have to see what happens next.

UTB
 
To be honest, I hate the attitude of 'don't take the easy way out and pass it sideways or backwards'. I just think that's such an outdated attitude to football.

I know blades fans are generally a fan of 'get ball, gerrit up there' but we don't live in the Bassett, or even Warnock, days. To me, what Wilder calls 'taking the easy way out', I would call 'rotating the ball, maintaining possession and passing and moving. Even I was taught as a child that you take one touch out of your feet, look up and play the ball to feet. You can't score without the ball, after all!

I dislike it because it's the reason Proper football/ footballers will seemingly never succeed here. Kevin McDonald, Leon Britton et al were all players that 'took the easy option' but look at where they are. Proper footballers, and you need them in your team to be successful. The game is much easier (and much less tiring) when you have possession for the majority of it.

When Wilder talks about getting it forward quickly, that just says to me he is incapable of building a proper football team that draws teams out exploits the gaps in behind. Instead, it will be percentage football and try to feed off what we can in and around the box.

For those wondering what's happened to Sharp, I think the explanation lies in this. Sharp's previous spells at the club were under Warnock and Blackwell. He has been successful everywhere else in FOOTBALLING teams. He doesn't suit kick-and-rush, never has, never will. So now, not only is our team fairly average, we seemingly won't even be playing to our biggest strength.
 
blader said:
To be honest, I hate the attitude of 'don't take the easy way out and pass it sideways or backwards'. I just think that's such an outdated attitude to football.

I know blades fans are generally a fan of 'get ball, gerrit up there' but we don't live in the Bassett, or even Warnock, days. To me, what Wilder calls 'taking the easy way out', I would call 'rotating the ball, maintaining possession and passing and moving. Even I was taught as a child that you take one touch out of your feet, look up and play the ball to feet. You can't score without the ball, after all!

I dislike it because it's the reason Proper football/ footballers will seemingly never succeed here. Kevin McDonald, Leon Britton et al were all players that 'took the easy option' but look at where they are. Proper footballers, and you need them in your team to be successful. The game is much easier (and much less tiring) when you have possession for the majority of it.

When Wilder talks about getting it forward quickly, that just says to me he is incapable of building a proper football team that draws teams out exploits the gaps in behind. Instead, it will be percentage football and try to feed off what we can in and around the box.

For those wondering what's happened to Sharp, I think the explanation lies in this. Sharp's previous spells at the club were under Warnock and Blackwell. He has been successful everywhere else in FOOTBALLING teams. He doesn't suit kick-and-rush, never has, never will. So now, not only is our team fairly average, we seemingly won't even be playing to our biggest strength.
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My heart sank a little when hearing the Bolton reports that Wilder wants us to be more direct and play off knock-downs etc. I like his no-nonsense approach in regards to interviews and the like; I think it's what the Club's been needing for years, I'm just a little concerned that the style of play may be a little too back-to-basics. Here's hoping I'm wrong.
 
blader said:
To be honest, I hate the attitude of 'don't take the easy way out and pass it sideways or backwards'. I just think that's such an outdated attitude to football.

I know blades fans are generally a fan of 'get ball, gerrit up there' but we don't live in the Bassett, or even Warnock, days. To me, what Wilder calls 'taking the easy way out', I would call 'rotating the ball, maintaining possession and passing and moving. Even I was taught as a child that you take one touch out of your feet, look up and play the ball to feet. You can't score without the ball, after all!

I dislike it because it's the reason Proper football/ footballers will seemingly never succeed here. Kevin McDonald, Leon Britton et al were all players that 'took the easy option' but look at where they are. Proper footballers, and you need them in your team to be successful. The game is much easier (and much less tiring) when you have possession for the majority of it.

When Wilder talks about getting it forward quickly, that just says to me he is incapable of building a proper football team that draws teams out exploits the gaps in behind. Instead, it will be percentage football and try to feed off what we can in and around the box.

For those wondering what's happened to Sharp, I think the explanation lies in this. Sharp's previous spells at the club were under Warnock and Blackwell. He has been successful everywhere else in FOOTBALLING teams. He doesn't suit kick-and-rush, never has, never will. So now, not only is our team fairly average, we seemingly won't even be playing to our biggest strength.
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I see what you mean (save for Leon Britton, the World's most overrated footballer), but what Wilder is talking about, I think, is not hoofing it but actually being braver and attacking, rather than dithering.

In recent years our build up play has been ponderous. We never get to the byline. We never break and attack quickly.

Possession is important, but is useless if you never get within 20 yards of goal.
 
Rodders said:
My heart sank a little when hearing the Bolton reports that Wilder wants us to be more direct and play off knock-downs etc. I like his no-nonsense approach in regards to interviews and the like; I think it's what the Club's been needing for years, I'm just a little concerned that the style of play may be a little too back-to-basics. Here's hoping I'm wrong.
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The first two games there has been bits of passing but make no mistake, we are a different side to last year and much more direct. Both centre backs have been instructed to knock it long into the channels at every opportunity. Sadly we have no pace to exploit this. The more direct, long ball teams had pace or a target man (Clarke not that great in the air/nor as big as I thought). We have neither.

Wilder's approach worked at Northampton but remains to be seen if it works at a club with higher expectations and a better standard (one league up).

The poster above makes a good point about Sharp. He scored goals under O'Driscoll and Adkins who are both passing managers (you can say we overplayed it last year).

I like a mixture of the two styles but overall like most just want winning football. So far Wilder has changed the style somewhat but not the results.

It is odd his interview last night as he is very critical for game two. If we lose Saturday and it's the same again what does he say then? He has to remember he has brought 6 of these players in and if you take out his keeper and captain, only Brayford, Done and Basham are hold overs. Are those the three most at risk if we do not improve? The latter two definitely are weak links and have been 2 of the poorer players along with Hussey/Sharp; to start the season.

It is way too early to panic and start calling him the second coming of Micky Adams (a manager who was even more successful than Wilder with promotions and may higher up the leagues) but Wilder has to ensure he gets the balance of the side right. In the short term we just need a scruffy win Saturday and then everyone, including supporters might relax. It is frustrating that we have had a bad start. I think a good start was important this year after we played catch up all year last year. if we win 2 home games in a week though, then thing can change rapidly.
 
SwissBlade said:
I think in the 7 years i've been on this forum, i've said at the start of every season, lets see where we are in 10 games... Fair enough we've still been shite after 10 games, but i think to take a reaction after 1-3 games is always going to be knee-jerk, especially when one of those games in the JPT like last night.

I paid little to no interest in the game last night and i don't think its really a measure of where we will be later in the season. From what i have read from Saturdays game there were holes in the side, we lacked creativity, pace and we had no shots. Apparently last night we had some shots and looked ok in the first half, but we didn't close the game as well as tiring.

We've lost a lot of players and we've also brought a lot of new players in, so there will be a period of settling, naturally, as players find their feet in an evolving team. I'd take a guess that the side that starts this season will be a little different in 10 games time.
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Think your right Swiss blade,Wilder has commented on the square and back passing which has become the norm for us ,he is determined to change that
either the players we have now or additions show more bravery when in possession.
Weir clough and Adkins favoured this slow build up which got us no where in the end.Those three managers never brought in the players to be successful
with that style.Chris is going to do it his way and it maybe we have a few players playing at present who can't cut it with this style.
This is where brave management comes in ,obviously with the support of the owners..lf certain players dont show the same kind of bravery! they will be gone as Wilder says.When saying bravery it's not about being bra e in the tackle ,it's about taking responsibly and being positive ( going forward ) it's going to be an interesting few weeks finding out who has got the bottle to take it on! There could be a few surprising exclusions ,as Wilder says no one
including his own signings are safe from the chop.
 
Taking the easy option in football is more about what you do without the ball. For far too long we've had players who hide and don't want the ball. Sideways and backwards passes are the symptoms; the disease is laziness.

Fleck looks like a step in the right direction but we desperately need someone to play alongside him and a winger who is prepared to take his man on.
 
sheffielder said:
I am starting to think every player before this regime, probably bar Sharp needs to go.
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i think most of us said the same at the time.. i certainly did. we've had years of pass it sideways or back. it is going to take getting rid of all the players with that mentality to leave
 
Balham Blade said:
Taking the easy option in football is more about what you do without the ball. For far too long we've had players who hide and don't want the ball. Sideways and backwards passes are the symptoms; the disease is laziness.

Fleck looks like a step in the right direction but we desperately need someone to play alongside him and a winger who is prepared to take his man on.
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Indeed.

Football is played with the ball and equally without the ball.

I believe we have some talented players who are fucking lazy and to quote an old phrase - don't put in a shift. My criticism of Baxter was that he played a ball, then admired it and didn't look for a return - then the next etc. We still have too many of these and quite possibly, some of CW's signings.

I find it increasingly difficult to accept that our players just can't concentrate for 90 minutes every Saturday and Tuesday.

UTB
 
Weasel said:
Give over. Yes most of the players we have had recently have had a attitude that stunk the place out and were quite rightly given the cold shoulder by the fans at the lap of shame after the scunnie game (pity Higgo and Collins had had already gone) but who brought this set of losers in to the club in the first place and who had them strolling around as if they didnt have a clue about what they were doing and showing a 'i couldnt give a toss attitude'? Clearly its the managers fault. Now we can all disagree about who is at fault most ...Weir...Clough...Adkins...the Board...but ultimately no one made the players fo out on to the pitch and stroll about like they were playing testimonials and not doing the basics of their jobs while they were being handsomely paid. The players bar the odd exception were a disgrace last season but it is the managers who brought em in and who should inspire them to better things.
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Absolutely agree with all of that - but they didn't look very "inspired" last night :-(
 



Rodders said:
My heart sank a little when hearing the Bolton reports that Wilder wants us to be more direct and play off knock-downs etc. I like his no-nonsense approach in regards to interviews and the like; I think it's what the Club's been needing for years, I'm just a little concerned that the style of play may be a little too back-to-basics. Here's hoping I'm wrong.
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To be fair Wilder did say after the Bolton game that he was disappionted the ball had been lumped up.
 
Revolution said:
I see what you mean (save for Leon Britton, the World's most overrated footballer), but what Wilder is talking about, I think, is not hoofing it but actually being braver and attacking, rather than dithering.

In recent years our build up play has been ponderous. We never get to the byline. We never break and attack quickly.

Possession is important, but is useless if you never get within 20 yards of goal.
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I agree
I think he's more in the Paul Cook camp.......when he was at Chesterfield he coached them to always first look for a forward pass and only keep possession / pass sideways if there was nothing on.
I think its all about just being more positive with the ball and trying to cut out players just taking the easy option all the time......nothing ventured, nothing gained.
 
Revolution said:
I see what you mean (save for Leon Britton, the World's most overrated footballer), but what Wilder is talking about, I think, is not hoofing it but actually being braver and attacking, rather than dithering.

In recent years our build up play has been ponderous. We never get to the byline. We never break and attack quickly.

Possession is important, but is useless if you never get within 20 yards of goal.
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Exactly. He wants much more purpose with the passing in the final third and I think we can see it coming in patches. Some interchanges around the box were very good but we aren't finishing the final product.
 
Balham Blade said:
Taking the easy option in football is more about what you do without the ball. For far too long we've had players who hide and don't want the ball. Sideways and backwards passes are the symptoms; the disease is laziness.

Fleck looks like a step in the right direction but we desperately need someone to play alongside him and a winger who is prepared to take his man on.
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Spot on.
 
finlaytheblade said:
Think your right Swiss blade,Wilder has commented on the square and back passing which has become the norm for us ,he is determined to change that
either the players we have now or additions show more bravery when in possession.
Weir clough and Adkins favoured this slow build up which got us no where in the end.Those three managers never brought in the players to be successful
with that style.Chris is going to do it his way and it maybe we have a few players playing at present who can't cut it with this style.
This is where brave management comes in ,obviously with the support of the owners..lf certain players dont show the same kind of bravery! they will be gone as Wilder says.When saying bravery it's not about being bra e in the tackle ,it's about taking responsibly and being positive ( going forward ) it's going to be an interesting few weeks finding out who has got the bottle to take it on! There could be a few surprising exclusions ,as Wilder says no one
including his own signings are safe from the chop.
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Going on what i've read only, its certainly going to take a little time to adapt and i think whilst we will get a decent picture of how we're progressing after 10 games or so, it may take a lot longer until we start to see the benefits of the progression... Clean Sheets, big wins, run of wins etc.

What you touched on above, regarding the style of play, i can't comment on Wilder so far, but you're right, Weir, and Adkins liked a slow build up, plenty of possession. Clough preferred shape rather than possession. In many respects, Wilder has talked along similar lines as Clough when it comes to organisation. The difference is perhaps in demands. Clough perhaps expected, Wilder demands and there will be consequences for failure. From the way Wilder has spoken over the summer he also seems very clear on everyone pulling together and doing their job for the team. This seems to be an area which fell down yesterday, players taking the wrong decision or not being decisive enough when they had the chance.

I think what we'll see with Wilder is that there will be players that don't exactly fit his style, but they do the job that Wilder wants, Scougall springs to mind as despite being a headless chicken within a formation, he will more often than not take a decision to run with the ball and create. He's also a grafter. I'm interested therefore to see how McNulty will do with Wilder, talented, but will he do the job that Billy or Done does?
 
him behind you said:
Me too mate. I'm one of very few who, while praying CW would be the answer, I've refused to get carried away given that I thought the last 2 managers would be and was kicked firmly in the bollocks by both those. In true pessimistic style, I'm waiting to be impressed. He made a good start with interviews in the summer and a couple of his signings appear good but I really don't think he understood what a horrendous attitude most of the players he inherited have. Now we'll see what he's made of and whether he really can drill his expectations in to them and get a reaction. Players not following instructions was used quite a lot last season.

This isn't a pop at the manager, just a wake up call to the many who appeared to get carried away with his appointment like I did last year. We're miles off IMO and he's no miracle worker.
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I refuse to get excited about any new managerial appointment as it has become abundantly clear that our managers are not the problem. Changing the fall guy each year simply takes the heat off the real culprit



 
crucialkneeligaman said:
Yes but the chances he talked about were real not imaginary as per our previous manager.
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He was also very blunt and to the point when asked about transfers . Rejected talk of Morsey and Poyet links and reiterated his view of how transfers should be handled ........ basically , don't say a fucking word untill the are done and dusted .
 
We've always been slow starters, it's like a Blades tradition. However, we need to remember the scale of the upheaval at the club over the past 8 months, and particularly over the past two. We've changed the playing squad massively, and things will take a while to bed down. I've heard enough positives to feel positive myself, and if we get a couple more of the right players in we should be OK.

Let's see where we're at after 10 league games.
 
He certainly sounded frustrated, and who can blame him all he is asking is the players to move the ball quicker play on the front foot be positive, he's not asking them to split the atom, I watched the U12 and U15 in Ireland the other week and their coaches asked them to the same things and overall they seemed to grasp the tactics. What does that say about our first team squad.
 
derryblade said:
He certainly sounded frustrated, and who can blame him all he is asking is the players to move the ball quicker play on the front foot be positive, he's not asking them to split the atom, I watched the U12 and U15 in Ireland the other week and their coaches asked them to the same things and overall they seemed to grasp the tactics. What does that say about our first team squad.
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They're either

A) ignorant bastards
B) thick as fuck and don't 'get it'
C) don't want to do it
D) aren't good enough / fast enough
 
I haven't seen either game but will say that I'm not at all excited about the game on Saturday after yet another underwhelming start to the season, the third in succession.

Fail to win on Saturday and the pre season optimism will be completely evaporated.

The comments I've read seem that yet again we are starting a season without having the right players in place and having to look to add to the squad before the end of August. One of the most important things to have in your team in league one is pace- we have absolutely none and the only player we possessed with pace has been sold. I really hope we get the right reinforcements in but without a couple of pacey midfielders arriving I think we will struggle at times this season.
 
I suspect there's a combination of not whole-heartedly wanting to do it and not pushing themselves to do things they aren't entirely comfortable with. It's an expected by-product of constantly changing your manager and approach with lots of inherited players for each new manager who are more comfortable playing a different way.
 
1danewhitehouse said:
I suspect there's a combination of not whole-heartedly wanting to do it and not pushing themselves to do things they aren't entirely comfortable with. It's an expected by-product of constantly changing your manager and approach with lots of inherited players for each new manager who are more comfortable playing a different way.
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Well if they don't like been told what to do I'd suggest hanging up their boots and fucking off.
 



From his comments he obviously identified the individuals who strayed from the game plan hopefully Saturdays starting eleven or a performance that lasts longer than 30 minutes and sporadic spells thereafter will ease our concerns.
 
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