Illiman

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It’s easy to overlook last season was his first in Mens football. He did fantastically well last year and naturally had a few dips in form etc

Come back this year bigger, stronger, faster, fitter. The lads got a frighteningly high ceiling and will be playing Premier League football next year with us without us.

The biggest compliment I can pay him is that his close control & dribbling skills and style remind me of Messi/Salah.
The body strength for a smaller lad, the fact the ball seems to stick to his feet, the way he gets out of tight spaces, the way he sends defenders for a hotdog with hip movements

The fact we nearly lost him through a contract dispute is wild.
 

He was obviously close to MGW last year, and Berge too with their assists and goals in the latter part of the season. It looks like he’s learnt a lot from having quality around him.

I personally enjoyed that massive hug between him and Berge, shows theirs a great deal of respect for each other there.
 
VictoryBlade said:
Wonder why Wilder seemed to have a problem with him..................genuine question BTW?
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He's the sort of maverick player that didn't fit in with the whole ethos at the time and to be honest, while we had a great team, at no point did we have any REALLY talented footballers, it was pretty much a team of grafters. Basham and O'Connell were our biggest attacking threats for the 9 months or so that we took the league by storm.

McGoldrick and Duffy were the only attacking players who could keep the opposition on their toes and they were basically capable journeymen rather than long term, Premier League level talent. Duffy then got jettisoned and we went on the defensive. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw Lundstram in the starting line up vs Bournemouth when we'd specifically signed Luke Freeman to play in the 10 position.

In Chris Wilder's Socialist Republic, talent seemed to be frowned upon over hard work which cost us at the top level in the end with the likes of Lundstram who had neither stinking the place out, while we had no MGW-type who could dig us out like we had last season. Dean Henderson was the most flamboyant footballer we had under Wilder IMO and he was the bloody goalie!

I'm being facetious but I think the contract thing was perhaps a reason out of Wilder's control to a certain extent, alongside him being very young at the time we were in the Prem. Keeping him under wraps might have been the best idea or people would have got a glimpse of him and we'd have lost him for peanuts, never to be seen again at a time when prime Messi and Ronaldo could have been playing up front for us and we still would have gone down.
 
Badger Blade said:
He's the sort of maverick player that didn't fit in with the whole ethos at the time and to be honest, while we had a great team, at no point did we have any REALLY talented footballers, it was pretty much a team of grafters. Basham and O'Connell were our biggest attacking threats for the 9 months or so that we took the league by storm.

McGoldrick and Duffy were the only attacking players who could keep the opposition on their toes and they were basically capable journeymen rather than long term, Premier League level talent. Duffy then got jettisoned and we went on the defensive. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw Lundstram in the starting line up vs Bournemouth when we'd specifically signed Luke Freeman to play in the 10 position.

In Chris Wilder's Socialist Republic, talent seemed to be frowned upon over hard work which cost us at the top level in the end with the likes of Lundstram who had neither stinking the place out, while we had no MGW-type who could dig us out like we had last season. Dean Henderson was the most flamboyant footballer we had under Wilder IMO and he was the bloody goalie!

I'm being facetious but I think the contract thing was perhaps a reason out of Wilder's control to a certain extent, alongside him being very young at the time we were in the Prem. Keeping him under wraps might have been the best idea or people would have got a glimpse of him and we'd have lost him for peanuts, never to be seen again at a time when prime Messi and Ronaldo could have been playing up front for us and we still would have gone down.
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At the City Hall event Wilder was asked who the most talented player he'd worked with was. He said "guess". We went through all the obvious names: Brooks, Mcgoldrick, Coutts, Fleck, O'Connell, Duffy etc before getting to the less obvious ones . He laughed all the way through and said "shall I tell you" before responding Ndiaye. At the time it was bemusing. Not so much now.
 
Don't think Wilder had a problem with him. Just wasn't ready, and where we were wasn't the environment. I heard he wanted to him in the first team if we went down the season after.
Easy to beat Wilder with a stick, but he had a perfected team plan, and I'm sure he would've integrated players in if they were good enough.
 
Nedski said:


I didn't notice it earlier, but Ndiaye was blocked by their number 2 after passing to Berge for the goal, and he was blocked hard enough that it put him on the deck. When the ball goes in Ndiaye is right in his face celebrating, which is absolutely brilliant to see.

I love the confidence in the boy and the team at the moment, long may it continue.
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I'd seen him laughing but hadn't realised why. Quality!
 
Nedski said:
The slight drop of the shoulder before turning the Hull player was world class. Subtle yet enough to give him a yard of space to attack. We need a £40m release clause in his contract before January
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Agree the way he created space to create Berge goal was world class.

Also agree MGW's speciality was tricks and flicks.
However N'Dieye holds on to the ball better, it sticks to him, he's now strong and difficult to knock off the ball
and of course N'Dieye's speciality is his dribbling, he's the type that puts you on the edge of your seat as anything could happen.
 
For me, not just regarding illiman, but in the past I have always looked at other teams in our league wishing we had certain players from other clubs, we now have a hatful of players that all of the other teams will be looking at wishing they were theres, it's great to be in this position of strength, but it of course will mean nothing if we finish outside the top 2
 
Nedski said:


I didn't notice it earlier, but Ndiaye was blocked by their number 2 after passing to Berge for the goal, and he was blocked hard enough that it put him on the deck. When the ball goes in Ndiaye is right in his face celebrating, which is absolutely brilliant to see.

I love the confidence in the boy and the team at the moment, long may it continue.
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I saw that and the Ref had a word with him for doing it! 🤣
 

Champagneblade said:
His work when we don't have the ball is phenomenal. Plus he's not pulled up on 60 minutes every game anymore.

The foul given against him when he robbed Figuerido was quite frankly an outrage. It's embarrassing how far from away from a foul that piece of play was.
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This happens every game. His ability to win the ball from defenders is highly unusual. It takes defenders by surprise and all they can do is often throwing themselves to the ground. Unfortunately that makes referees blow the whistle by default as it seems so unlikely that a smallish player like Ndiaye is able to win the ball fairly in these situations.

On the ball defenders always try to bull him too. While other players dive Ndiaye is the opposite, unusually strong and with great balance he often stays on his feet, making challenges appear less hard/nasty.

As his reputation grows, because it will, there may be a bigger chance referees will take more notice of what actually happens, rather than making lazy/default decisions.
 
Bergen Blade said:
This happens every game. His ability to win the ball from defenders is highly unusual. It takes defenders by surprise and all they can do is often throwing themselves to the ground. Unfortunately that makes referees blow the whistle by default as it seems so unlikely that a smallish player like Ndiaye is able to win the ball fairly in these situations.

On the ball defenders always try to bull him too. While other players dive Ndiaye is the opposite, unusually strong and with great balance he often stays on his feet, making challenges appear less hard/nasty.

As his reputation grows, because it will, there may be a bigger chance referees will take more notice of what actually happens, rather than making lazy/default decisions.
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Always keep my eye out for your posts Bergen, you've got the ability to explain what my eyes see when my mouth won't make sense. If that makes any sense at all
 
Nedski said:


I didn't notice it earlier, but Ndiaye was blocked by their number 2 after passing to Berge for the goal, and he was blocked hard enough that it put him on the deck. When the ball goes in Ndiaye is right in his face celebrating, which is absolutely brilliant to see.

I love the confidence in the boy and the team at the moment, long may it continue.
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Yeah I noticed that. I think the ref had to intervene. It’s why he was late over to celebrate with Sander.
 
Bergen Blade said:
This happens every game. His ability to win the ball from defenders is highly unusual. It takes defenders by surprise and all they can do is often throwing themselves to the ground. Unfortunately that makes referees blow the whistle by default as it seems so unlikely that a smallish player like Ndiaye is able to win the ball fairly in these situations.

On the ball defenders always try to bull him too. While other players dive Ndiaye is the opposite, unusually strong and with great balance he often stays on his feet, making challenges appear less hard/nasty.

As his reputation grows, because it will, there may be a bigger chance referees will take more notice of what actually happens, rather than making lazy/default decisions.
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That strength, low centre of gravity and ball control is what differentiates the great smaller players from the good and well Ndiaye has it all in bucket loads. If he becomes really deadly in front of goal at any point in his development then he could go to the very top.
 
Gin&Juice said:
Don't think Wilder had a problem with him. Just wasn't ready, and where we were wasn't the environment. I heard he wanted to him in the first team if we went down the season after.
Easy to beat Wilder with a stick, but he had a perfected team plan, and I'm sure he would've integrated players in if they were good enough.
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Can’t buy that if I’m honest.

About a month after that season ended he scored 2 on his debut for us.

I’ll agree he wasn’t the finished article but I don’t buy he wasn’t a viable option - when there was nothing else. We were playing Burke and kean Bryan FFS.

Wilder had just lost all confidence and had basically given up trying to do anything but not conceed and hope we fluked a goal. The same way he didn’t really want to play brooks until it became clear he was a cut above.

Wilder had is favorites and preferred seasoned professionals. I think it’s almost irrefutable that he would rather have experience than youth. It’s worked for him without doubt but to my mind it’s a blind spot he has.

In a way we should actually be thankful as if he’s played and shone in the PL, he’d certainly not still be here.
 
SwissBlade said:
He had a contract dispute that took until last season to sort by all accounts
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The contract issue was sorted by him having a viable pathway to the first team by all accounts. Why would he sign once it became apparent he might actually be in with a chance of a start
 
The fact that Slav didn't play him until the contract was signed suggests it was not just a manager didn't rate him.

The fact that it's not even been a year since his first start is incredible. He's improving all the time.
 
Starting to feel sorry for Jean Seri who’s been embarrassed by Ndiaye every single time he’s played against him.
 

Bergen Blade said:
This happens every game. His ability to win the ball from defenders is highly unusual. It takes defenders by surprise and all they can do is often throwing themselves to the ground. Unfortunately that makes referees blow the whistle by default as it seems so unlikely that a smallish player like Ndiaye is able to win the ball fairly in these situations.

On the ball defenders always try to bull him too. While other players dive Ndiaye is the opposite, unusually strong and with great balance he often stays on his feet, making challenges appear less hard/nasty.

As his reputation grows, because it will, there may be a bigger chance referees will take more notice of what actually happens, rather than making lazy/default decisions.
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Ndiaye has all the attributes to play as a 9 or a 10 which is extremely rare. He's excellent at holding the ball up or with his back to goal and wins his fair share of long balls and 50/50s. Can dribble, link play, play a through ball, run through on goal and finish - or score from the edge of the box. He can also carry the ball long distances and transition. He's a freak.
 
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