CONFIRMED Iliman Ndiaye to Marseille

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BrayfordsBushyBeard said:
If the offer gets to £25-£30m then you have a dilemma imho . We could then try for Gyokores for say £12m and pump the other £13m into the club coffers . Unfortunately as the money does not come as a lump some I can’t see any being re invested so we would probably just be one very good player down by the end of the window. If the takeover is close and genuine I’d be tempted to say no !
As ever UTB !
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I’m not sure under the current ownership clubs would accept ‘IOU’ from us when we now have a history of failed payments
 

Weasel said:
Just short of a fee preventing us from going into administration or being ridiculously high, it would take a monumental amount of stupidity from SUFC to agree to sell him now when we are so many points clear of the chasing pack and looking almost certain to get promotion in 3 months time and vast riches for the club. Especially when you consider the lad would still have a number of admirers in to the summer anyway and we could always sell them if necessary.

I would say this is probably a non starter but after we sold Deane and Fjortoft on the same day when in the top two all those years back then it wouldn't be the first example of stupidity shown by SUFC if Ndiaye was to be sold. Let's hope this board (if we really have one at this time) are a bit more sensible.
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the sale of Deane and Fjortoft was unfortunately unavoidable as we had an agreement with both players that they could leave if certain conditions were met.
Spackman whilst acknowledging that Fjortoft was a good goal scorer did not accept that the “team“ were as good and efficient with him in it and subsequently did not favour playing him. He and his agent complained and he was told to look for another club if the relevant fee and terms were met.
Deane had an agreement that he could leave to a higher placed club for a set fee and after a night match ( cannot remember who against ) where he was kicked all over the ground he was allowed to leave.

mcdonald had Hamilton Ricard ( the guy that went to middlesborough) lined up but after his wife was spat on in the car park, he pulled the plug
 
bertieblade said:
the sale of Deane and Fjortoft was unfortunately unavoidable as we had an agreement with both players that they could leave if certain conditions were met.
Spackman whilst acknowledging that Fjortoft was a good goal scorer did not accept that the “team“ were as good and efficient with him in it and subsequently did not favour playing him. He and his agent complained and he was told to look for another club if the relevant fee and terms were met.
Deane had an agreement that he could leave to a higher placed club for a set fee and after a night match ( cannot remember who against ) where he was kicked all over the ground he was allowed to leave.

mcdonald had Hamilton Ricard ( the guy that went to middlesborough) lined up but after his wife was spat on in the car park, he pulled the plug
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Was it Stockport?
Remember one particularly bad challenge that would have got the offender jail time nowadays and it was just one of many from the same guy
 
Frank the tank said:
Was it Stockport?
Remember one particularly bad challenge that would have got the offender jail time nowadays and it was just one of many from the same guy
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Stockport is like the rim of an arsehole, past that, your getting deeper into shit.
 
Prospective buyer of the club will be buzzing when they see we’re selling our best asset just as we’re about to get into the Prem.
 
I thought Everton were skint as chairman selling up and that’s why they’ve recalled their players ?
New stadium on horizon on the edge of ffp can’t see then gambling on a championship player either tbh
Probably more truth in them selling Gordon to Villa rather than them buying players .
 
I would assume any sale would depend on how confident the club was of the takeover going through. If we're not then taking £20 plus million might well be the sensible thing to do for the long-term future of the club. Sure, it would hamper a promotion bid but we're in a pretty strong position and if we had the ability to bring in saw a couple, even on loan, it's probably a better gamble than gambling the future of the club on promotion.

As for the player. He has 18 months left on a contract where he'll be on less than other first team players. If he stayed and we went up, with 12 months left it would be a case of sale or sign and if there is interest from biggish clubs then there's a good chance he'd want to leave. People assuming Everton is a bad move are making a few assumptions. One of which is that they'll get relegated and they've been pretty good of getting out of that position in the past. He'd automatically get a huge wage increase. Play 6 months in the EPL which puts him on a much bigger stage than the Championship. Even if they went down, he'd either have another showcase season in a dominant Championship team or have done enough to persuade a bigger club to sign him.

Does anyone think that if we do go up we'd be doing better than Everton are now? We have no idea who the buyer is. Given the last one, it's not a huge leap to assume they won't be game-changing. Remember when Norwich went up and didn't spend anything other than to clear their debts? If there's no takeover then that approach would seem likely. Especially after overspending last time. Not exactly a situation for a player to flourish.

So I guess whether we'd accept bids will largely be down to finances.
 

Surely if a prospective buyer of the club has agreed a price then that price includes ALL assets, including it's players. Using this logic it explains why the Prince is no longer paying bills but also suggests he won't be allowed to sell players. Just my logic, happy for someone to correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Millhousesblade1889 said:
I’d say once you’re at £25m the stability of the club financially comes into consideration. Promotion is a gamble albeit 75/25 at this stage but still a gamble
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If we keep Ndaye it's more or less nailed on. So the decision is, do we take £25m now, which may tied us over for another 12 months, or £150m, plus parachute payments and all the other benefits of playing in the top flight.

There is also the view of the new owner to take into account. They will be expecting PL football next season, and any risk to that is unlikely to be welcomed.

Honestly, I don't see any offer prizing him away from us now.
 
BrayfordsBushyBeard said:
I definitely do not want him to go at any price but £30m , spend £10-£12m on Gyokores and use the rest to keep us steady might not be the worst thing to happen , just can’t see the second bit happening unfortunately!
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What makes you think Gyorkeres would be available for that amount? I've seen interest in him reported at £25m so he wouldn't be a viable replacement option.
 
Stretch said:
If we keep Ndaye it's more or less nailed on. So the decision is, do we take £25m now, which may tied us over for another 12 months, or £150m, plus parachute payments and all the other benefits of playing in the top flight.

There is also the view of the new owner to take into account. They will be expecting PL football next season, and any risk to that is unlikely to be welcomed.

Honestly, I don't see any offer prizing him away from us now.
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It's not nailed on if we go into administration though, and the financial position will be the driver here. Someone has to pay the bills until September and if the takeover falls through then player sales are all we have to generate funds.
 
If he goes in this window it calls into question the suitability of our new owner to take us forward and I for one would be very concerned about the future
 
Stretch said:
If we keep Ndaye it's more or less nailed on. So the decision is, do we take £25m now, which may tied us over for another 12 months, or £150m, plus parachute payments and all the other benefits of playing in the top flight.

There is also the view of the new owner to take into account. They will be expecting PL football next season, and any risk to that is unlikely to be welcomed.

Honestly, I don't see any offer prizing him away from us now.
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I agree with everything you’ve said, but keeping him isn’t a promotion guarantee as we literally don’t know what could happen.

He could break his leg vs Wrexham and be out for the final 3 months. It’s a gamble but in my opinion a gamble worth taking.

However we’re not sat there trying to run a football club under a transfer embargo & missing payments, struggling to heat a training ground etc.

This money might be appealing to him in the short term unless the takeover is nailed on.

The only way you sell him IMO is if you’ve got a MGW type played lined up, young hungry & signing on a permanent. Would anyone part with one of those in January? I doubt it
 
If he's sold that's effectively a decision taken by the new owner. I can't see his first big decision being to sell our best chance of promotion to pay the bills, but if it is, it tells us all we need to know doesn't it.
 
Cashflow may well be an issue at present but any sales (as well as any acquisitions) are likely to have to be jointly agreed between the current and new owners (an interim conduct of business is usually put in place between signing and completion of such a transaction).
If cash is needed, either party could inject funds and a true-up take place at completion.
However, what none of this considers is what the player and his representatives want to do. If they push for the move, it makes it tougher to reject the offer.
 
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We must hope the status quo remains until the takeover is completed or it falls through.
Irrespective I'd say we would probably blow promotion if we lost Iliman. He really is that important to us and being able to win games.
 
Absolutely no chance Everton can pay 25 m for a player

The story says they are trying to.scratch around to find 15
Which they can't spend anyway so they will have to.sell just to low ball us
 
Frank the tank said:
Absolutely no chance Everton can pay 25 m for a player

The story says they are trying to.scratch around to find 15
Which they can't spend anyway so they will have to.sell just to low ball us
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If it's clear Utd are willing to deal, you'd expect/hope other clubs woukd be interest to dive the price up (and probably out of Everton's reach).
The expressing interest may well result in him leaving soon rather than over summer though especially with Utd's ownership in what appears to be a weak position.
 
Strange how the journos keep saying Moshiri is trying to find the £22m to sign Ndiaye?

Looking too much into it I suppose, but that infers to me that a price has been agreed?
 

I’m fully on board keeping him but promotion isn’t nailed on if we keep him, not at this stage of season
 
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