If you don't want Wilson, Why Not?

[Highbury_Blade]

So why is that you don't want Wilson?

Those who do want wilson, need not respond

I'm doing this poll on behalf of someone, who is completely and utterly technically illiterate. (And a tory to boot!)


(And no, it's not Batho )

 

[JJ Sefton]

Good poll fella!

 

[davidpinder]

I answered crap manager for reasons put in olle's recent post

 

[iggle-theblade]

he has not got a good record at this level simple as
McCabe said he was looking for a manager with a record of getting teams out of this league and a good championship record ?
Danny Wilson has been at this level 12 years and not got Hartlepool, Bristol MK Dons or Swidon Promoted how is that a good record ? ? ?

 

[Thelooneytuner]

He has a very poor cv in my view! If he had an awesome cv AND was a Wednesday fan I would welcome him.
Poor descision IMO

 

[Sothall_Blade]

I voted Both.
THREE relegations from League One in the last SIX seasons doesn't inspire confidence. His last real success was 14 years ago.
There are much better options available who are apparently ready and willing to take the job (i.e. Hill if you believe the YP)
Appointing an ex-Wednesday manager doesn't bother me personally but it will divide the fan base at a time when we need stability and harmony.

 

[sheffielder]

Cheers Highbury, I think people need to realise the pig connection is more the shit on top of the cake. Out of 50 applicants the best man we can get is Wilson. About time McCabe had a look at himself here.


'Believe you and me Seth, I will do my best to ruin this club'

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if it was Sheridan I don't think you would see a protest at all. a Man on the up.

Managers are like politicians. They only have a certain shelf life and when they are on the way down there is no stopping it.

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he has not got a good record at this level simple as
McCabe said he was looking for a manager with a record of getting teams out of this league and a good championship record ?
Danny Wilson has been at this level 12 years and not got Hartlepool, Bristol MK Dons or Swidon Promoted how is that a good record ? ? ?

This ^^^^^^^^

 

[Houso]

From another thread...

It's really gettin on my thruppennies to see people try and whittle it down to the Wednesday connection alone.

For me, it's the following:

- Entirely uninspiring long term football management record. And immediately awful management record
- Style of football has got poorer with time. From a Bristol City supporter on 365 "If you like negative football with the ball booted into space in the channels, Wilson is your man"
- It splits the support base from the start and creates a negative atmosphere at the club
- It makes no commercial sense in that less indecisive supporters will be likely to renew or buy tickets

It's a terrible and quite bizarre appointment.

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From 365...

He wasn't a complete failure at Swinmdon tbf. Got them to the playoff final and if it wasn't for a bobble on the Wembley pitch who knows what could have happened.

But then the strikers all decided to leave and that was that.

That's not what happened :uhoh:

We had a few good loanees who left after the final (Danny Rose, Steven Darby etc) plus Billy Paynter's contract was up. He replaced them with w**k loan signings, awful strikers, and sold our captain (Gordon Greer) to Brighton.

Basically he got lucky one season with aformentioned loans really standing out and a couple of career-best seasons from mediocre players. Then got found out the season after.

Austin leaving in January obviously didn't help but the writing was on the wall before that. He changed a team that was close to getting promoted into one that only avoided a club record of 19 games without a win by one match. In the space of 9 months.

 

[Jimbo]

I voted 'both'.

What the club needs now, more than anything, is solidarity and a United front between fans, players, manager and board. Whether it's because of the piggy connections or because of his record, the last 24 hours or so has shown appointing Wilson will only make this further from reality.

I hope to God I'm proved wrong but I can't see it. Wilson will never get the patience from the fans that he'll no doubt need in order to rebuild the team and get us playing his way and so I believe is doomed to fail.

 

[Grecian2000]

I wouldn't go so far as to say "crap", but on the downward slope.

If we had poached him from Barnsley the summer he got them promoted to the top flight (similar to Porterfield jumping ship at Rotherham after getting them to the second tier and us in the fourth) , I would have said "fucking fantastic". However, that was so long ago now and so much shit has floated down the various rivers that it's an ancient irrelevance.

I despised the obnoxious twat Sheridan far more than Wilson as a player, but would have been far happier appointing him on the back of his recent success.

Take someone on the way up not way after their peak.

 

[borbokis]

Take someone on the way up not way after their peak.

It's the same as we seem to do with players so why not managers?

 

[travellingblade]

I only voted that he's a crap manager, the rest is irrelevant.

If he was an Owl, but a great manager my viewpoint would be completely different.

 

[j j]

You missed out "I'm just being mardy" from the poll.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

I fear for the future of the club but voted both

 

[Houso]

I only voted that he's a crap manager, the rest is irrelevant.

If he was an Owl, but a great manager my viewpoint would be completely different.

Precisely. But that's not your actual view according to SCB, Olle et al.

 

[SwissBlade]

Excellent poll!

 

[beechblade]

I don't rate him as a manager.

 

[mattbianco1]

Interesting to see nobody choosing "He's a pig."

Even though that is THE main reason why nobody wants him, nobody wants to sound fickle enough to say it.

Alan Quinn - Pig
Leigh Bromby - Pig
Derek Geary - Pig

All put in great shifts for us. Derek Geary is one of the best players and most loved over recent times.

Danny Wilson isn't my choice but, get behind him FFS. Otherwise we'll ruin our club even more. If we get behind him and give him support it "could" work

 

[AlienWoodward]

I couldn't give a toss who he supports. If I was the manager of the pig I would do my best to get them promoted connections to other clubs have no bearing in football
However I think he is an awful manager and when you thought things couldn't get any worse down here,they have.
McCabe has lost my respect totally

 

[Rustyblade]

I don't want Wilson because this was the time to appoint someone to unite the club, restore its heart and soul and to instill a sense of hope for the future. These were the main criteria for me and, according to Mr McCabe, they were our PLC chairman's too.

Wilson fails on all these counts. Spectacularly.

Bugger the fact that he is stained with piggery. Irrelevant. As is his record. It really doesn't matter. The point is that it is an appointment that was guaranteed to cause all this rumpus and yet he still made it.

Mr McCabe was well aware of the need for unity right now and was given more than enough encouragement at the FA Youth Cup. That he has willfully chosen to make such a divisive appointment at this time speaks volumes about the man.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Interesting to see nobody choosing "He's a pig."

Even though that is THE main reason why nobody wants him, nobody wants to sound fickle enough to say it.

Alan Quinn - Pig
Leigh Bromby - Pig
Derek Geary - Pig

All put in great shifts for us. Derek Geary is one of the best players and most loved over recent times.

Danny Wilson isn't my choice but, get behind him FFS. Otherwise we'll ruin our club even more. If we get behind him and give him support it "could" work

Doesnt the fact that Geary, Quinn and Bromby got a fair shake off us actually prove that his piggery isnt the main reason nobody wants him?

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Interesting to see nobody choosing "He's a pig."

Even though that is THE main reason why nobody wants him, nobody wants to sound fickle enough to say it.

Alan Quinn - Pig
Leigh Bromby - Pig
Derek Geary - Pig

All put in great shifts for us. Derek Geary is one of the best players and most loved over recent times.

Danny Wilson isn't my choice but, get behind him FFS. Otherwise we'll ruin our club even more. If we get behind him and give him support it "could" work

The reason no-ones choosing 'he's a pig', is that because we're not all retards.

 

[Grecian2000]

Interesting to see nobody choosing "He's a pig."

Even though that is THE main reason why nobody wants him, nobody wants to sound fickle enough to say it.

Why is not wanting him because he's a pig being fickle? Why don't you believe anyone who says that isn't why they want him?

Plenty of people (me being one) were distraught at Micky Adams even being considered for the job. How does that sit with your narrow minded belief that it's only his previous associations that mean people are not for this appointment? Or were we all supposed to cream ourselves because he was a Blade?

It's about his achievements (and more to the point how long ago they were) than where he played (or managed).

 

[mattbianco1]

Doesnt the fact that Geary, Quinn and Bromby got a fair shake off us actually prove that his piggery isnt the main reason nobody wants him?

I remember the boo's when their names were read out on the team sheet and when the first touched the ball. Then, people realised they were actually good players they got off their back.

Danny Wilson got Swindon to the playoffs last season in the division that we are in. Yes they didn't get promoted but he got them into the play offs. Will you be happy with a top 6 finish this season? I will.

I do realise that they are now relegated but as i'm not a Swindon fan, i don't know the ins and outs. Did they sell players? Did they cut wages? I don't know. All I know is that Swindon have pretty much done what we've done. Lost the big game at wembley and paid the cost.

If he finishes top 6 next season then he's a good choice in my opinion. (I still don't want him mind you.)

 

[JJ Sefton]

I remember the boo's when their names were read out on the team sheet and when the first touched the ball. Then, people realised they were actually good players they got off their back.

I remember them too. They came from a minority and weren't very serious for the most part.

 

[mattbianco1]

Why is not wanting him because he's a pig being fickle? Why don't you believe anyone who says that isn't why they want him?

Plenty of people (me being one) were distraught at Micky Adams even being considered for the job. How does that sit with your narrow minded belief that it's only his previous associations that mean people are not for this appointment? Or were we all supposed to cream ourselves because he was a Blade?

It's about his achievements (and more to the point how long ago they were) than where he played (or managed).

I didn't want Adams either. Because I feel he's never really done anything in management. But we got him so I got behind him and I was disappointed we sacked him. I would've at least given him until October to see how he was performing in L1.

The end of the day, we can't attract big names anymore, players or managers so we need to get behind whoever is appointed. The end of the day we all have to pay to watch the blades because non of us have the say so or know how in managing them, playing for them or sitting on the board table.

I'm not happy with it either but to have a protest in the car park before he's even got through the door is baffling me. If after ten games we're top of the table on 30 points, will the people in the car park say. "Actually, I may have been wrong"?

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I remember them too. They came from a minority and weren't very serious for the most part.

The same minority in the car park?

 

[Grecian2000]

I didn't want Adams either. Because I feel he's never really done anything in management. But we got him so I got behind him and I was disappointed we sacked him. I would've at least given him until October to see how he was performing in L1.

So the fact you didn't want him despite him being a Blade should mean you can understand why people don't want Wilson and it not being about him being a pig. That is the bit from your original post I take objection at, not wanting him doesn't have to be about him being a pig!!!!!

 

[JJ Sefton]

The same minority in the car park?

Quite possibly.

 

[bath_blade]

What Rusty says - no need to repeat. Surely any senior manager needs to engender a non-devisive and positive environment and also consider their customer base (us, the fans, who pay).

The appointment of Danny Wilson is clearly controversial and a significant risk - the deed is now done and only time will show whether it was one worth taking or not.

The biggest reason for me is that whilst McCabe might be right that if results go well then we, the fans, will accept Danny Wilson, but when there is a downturn and pressure (which will happen at some point) then he will have the crowd on his back very quickly.

Imagine the situation should things not go well ... could very easily create a poisonous environment that almost dictates a slide to League 2.

Being a Blade I always hope that things go well, but they rarely do - and there will be no honeymoon for Danny Wilson.

 

[Rudders]

and there will be no honeymoon for Danny Wilson.

Too right. He's a poor poor appointment and I've no doubt McCabe will cut him off at the knees in the transfer market.

At least we didn't get Peter Reid whose successful period was even longer ago than 'our' Danny's...