I would like one of our local journalists....

[alcoblade]

You do realise that it's an unofficial rule on here, whatever manager is in, you cannot critise.
Got it?
Wilder never put a foot wrong.
Somehow Heckingbottom I herired a mess. Mess was made by..??

That’s clearly not true. The point is the criticism is just not in line with a man whose had 2 1/2 games in charge of a pathetic team.

I’m so glad we haven’t appointed anyone new yet. I might even give it to Heckinbottom for a year to just soak up the impossible position the bedwetters will put them in.

 

[S64 Blade]

Can’t really criticise Hecky. We’ve been this shit all season.

I do agree that local journalists, who are so precious about getting insight into the club, ask some proper questions though.

 

[Rodley]

...to ask some tough questions for a change.

- why is Lundstram in the side? It’s an insult to the supporters to see that level of effort week in week out

- given the abject failure of 3-5-2, why aren’t you trying something else?

They were scared of/indebted to Wilder. He’s gone. Ask the questions we want answering. From what I read on here everyone would like to know the answer re Lundstram in particular.

I can’t see a caretaker manager trying to implement a new system then a new manager coming in and having to change it again. He’s a continuity man until the new man comes in.

They need to get the new man in ASAP.

 

[Toronto Blade]

It is a tough ask for anyone to do do well with our squad, the best players have been injured most of the season.
Today Egan returned but we lost 2 more players to take his place in the trainer's room. Look at that back line today an aging CB and two fullbacks.
Hecks wanted the youth team not the 1st team he is helping the management out at the moment.

 

[FredZeppelin]

Look at how Heckinbottom is getting criticised after 3 matches.

There’s no point introducing a new manager into this toxic atmosphere.

I don't agree, Pal.
I think the main reason that things are this 'toxic' is because they're doesn't seem to be any kind of clear plan or direction being communicated. Add that to how poorly motivated the team seem to be at times, how slow to start games we are, and the fact that we are being beaten comfortably every week, and the frustration is always going to well up quickly.
I don't agree with the abuse of PH at all but he's not helping himself at all. He seems like a decent bloke who is doing well at U23 level. He's done the interim job now and it's time the Board got off their arse and appointed a leader with the vision going forward that we all want to hear. We accept that we are going down, of course we do, but if we can see the intent and preparation in place for next season I don't think they'll be any 'toxicity' at all. PH just carrying on where CW left off for 10 games or so is doing no one any favours.
UTB

 

[BlairBlade]

Ex Liverpool and ROI player. Been a co-commentaror for years.

Think his career was ended with a tackle by Stevens in a Merseyside derby.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

You do realise that it's an unofficial rule on here, whatever manager is in, you cannot critise.
Got it?
Wilder never put a foot wrong.
Somehow Heckingbottom I herired a mess. Mess was made by..??

If Wilder made no mess.. Of course not.. Who made the pitiful mess Heckingbottom apparently deserves praise for taking on?

 

[Foxy]

You do realise that it's an unofficial rule on here, whatever manager is in, you cannot critise.
Got it?

Except for you can though, can't you?

Why not share your opinions on what he's done wrong and should have done instead?

Rather than taking pops at people for expressing their opinions on the pelters he's getting?

 

[FMBlade1]

As per the OP, the local journalists have been a complete disgrace this season.

They ask almost no interesting questions, have dull personalities, and don't get any scoops.

It's a shame because they will be the only ones covering us next season.

 

[Rudders]

Ex Liverpool and ROI player. Been a co-commentaror for years.

Really classy left back under Joe Fagan at Liverpool i think it was mid to late 80s, probably won the European Cup etc etc. Like a super quality version of Enda.

 

[BlairBlade]

do you know its not the sheffield united way but now might just be the time to bring a young foreign coach in with new ideas

I’m all for that!
I’d go for the Serb or the German.

 

[alcoblade]

I don't agree, Pal.
I think the main reason that things are this 'toxic' is because they're doesn't seem to be any kind of clear plan or direction being communicated. Add that to how poorly motivated the team seem to be at times, how slow to start games we are, and the fact that we are being beaten comfortably every week, and the frustration is always going to well up quickly.
I don't agree with the abuse of PH at all but he's not helping himself at all. He seems like a decent bloke who is doing well at U23 level. He's done the interim job now and it's time the Board got off their arse and appointed a leader with the vision going forward that we all want to hear. We accept that we are going down, of course we do, but if we can see the intent and preparation in place for next season I don't think they'll be any 'toxicity' at all. PH just carrying on where CW left off for 10 games or so is doing no one any favours.
UTB

I don’t understand why he hasn’t tinkered with a few things, but at the same time, I barely care. The season’s over and he isn’t getting the job.

But, for me, the bedwetting on show is a perfect example of how some fans can perform as pathetically as this team.

And whatever scenario we end up discussing, the bedwetters are the same, usual suspects.

 

[yorkshirecoast]

Look at how Heckinbottom is getting criticised after 3 matches.

There’s no point introducing a new manager into this toxic atmosphere.

Wilder has created the mess we are in - no doubt about that with many of his signings and destroying the confidence of the few decent players we have with his awful tactics and selections. However, the fact that PH continues to select players that are clearly not good enough and/or don’t give a toss (Lunny, McBurnie and Stevens being the worst 3) - and to play the same awful tactics - means that he is bound to get some criticism.

I’d hoped he would have seen enough of us this season to at least see some changes were needed - both in team selection and approach/tactics. Instead it feels like the Wilder of the last 12 months is still here.

Today, like the Leicester game and like the whole season, was a complete disgrace. Pathetic and embarrassing.

I’m assuming he is just a stop-gap. If we appoint him as permanent manager it will be the cheapest of cheap options and McCabe-esque in its lack of ambition.

 

[Eric_Brooks]

I think Hecky has seen enough now over 3 games that he has to find 11 players who want to play and build a tea round them

for me

rammers
jags
egan
amapdu
baldock
fleck
mcgoldrick
Osborn - don’t tink he’s good enough but will give 100%
the rest can fight it out if they care at all

I dont like lunstram as much as anyone else but whoever is messing With Norwood please top

 

[alcoblade]

Wilder has created the mess we are in - no doubt about that with many of his signings and destroying the confidence of the few decent players we have with his awful tactics and selections. However, the fact that PH continues to select players that are clearly not good enough and/or don’t give a toss (Lunny, McBurnie and Stevens being the worst 3) - and to play the same awful tactics - means that he is bound to get some criticism.

I’d hoped he would have seen enough of us this season to at least see some changes were needed - both in team selection and approach/tactics. Instead it feels like the Wilder of the last 12 months is still here.

Today, like the Leicester game and like the whole season, was a complete disgrace. Pathetic and embarrassing.

I’m assuming he is just a stop-gap. If we appoint him as permanent manager it will be the cheapest of cheap options and McCabe-esque in its lack of ambition.

I agree with all of that. I’m critical too, if I can be arsed.

It’s just the OTT nature of some of it that I’m commenting on

 

[A Storm of Blades]

I don’t understand why he hasn’t tinkered with a few things, but at the same time, I barely care. The season’s over and he isn’t getting the job.

But, for me, the bedwetting on show is a perfect example of how some fans can perform as pathetically as this team.

And whatever scenario we end up discussing, the bedwetters are the same, usual suspects.

I think betwetting is a bit strong. We are hitting the home stretch of one of the worst seasons any team has ever experienced. Certainly in the Premier League era. Ergo, if any team ever warranted heavy, heavy criticism...

 

[Carlton Blade]

We've got about 4 1/2 players. Even I think system changes are neither here nor there now

 

[Weasel]

I think betwetting is a bit strong. We are hitting the home stretch of one of the worst seasons any team has ever experienced. Certainly in the Premier League era. Ergo, if any team ever warranted heavy, heavy criticism...

Stop it. You might upset some little sausages on here who might call you a 'bedwetter' (whatever the fuck that is up posed to mean ).

The team is currently embarrassing. The management gone were doing a piss poor job (after 4 years of being top dollar), the current interim boss sounds impressive bit hasn't changed a thing. Yep, I'm a bettwetter or whatever the fuck that means cos I want better. There are some wet lettuces on here.

Want better, demand better. You'll get on in life.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

Except for you can though, can't you?

Why not share your opinions on what he's done wrong and should have done instead?

Rather than taking pops at people for expressing their opinions on the pelters he's getting?

OK. I will do. It'll take time to find anything done wrong by Chris though. Sure you agree.

 

[Athens Blade]

We have a dedicated thread on Lundstram but to sum up, there was a 10 minute spell in the second half where he was involved:

He fucked up one free kick that fortunately fell to Brewster who hit a shot wide. Terrible delivery though.

He took a corner that failed to clear the first man and set them on a counter attack.

We got another free kick on the right that he also repeatedly failed to get behind the defenders and set them on a counter once more.

He received the ball in the final third, walked straight into trouble and set them on an attack.

When we were attacking down the right he tried a ridiculous back heel which immediately concede possession.

That's not forgetting when we were playing tippy tappy around our own box he laid the ball off to their man and barely sauntered back.

This is all in the space of one half. Even prior to that Jim Beglin was suggesting he might be hauled off because he was becoming a liability.

Play Osborn, Fleck and Norwood if needed be, but get him out of my club!

Yes, funny how he stayed on and Norwood came off.

 

[Rodley]

Of course Heckingbottom is copping for criticism after only three games, he is after all putting out the same team, same formation, same tactics and getting the same results as Chris Wilder what does anybody expect will change?
He is getting exactly what he deserves if he can't be his own man he shouldn't have stepped up as temporary manager.

You won’t get a caretaker manager implementing a new system as the players will have to learn that, toss it in the bin when a new manager is appointed and learn another system.

It’a very harsh to criticise Heckingbottom IMHO. He was asked to step up by the club and has said he didn’t want it.

If you want to get angry, get on the club’s case if we haven’t appointed another manager in the next month or so. It’s a dumpster fire at the minute.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

That’s clearly not true. The point is the criticism is just not in line with a man whose had 2 1/2 games in charge of a pathetic team.

I’m so glad we haven’t appointed anyone new yet. I might even give it to Heckinbottom for a year to just soak up the impossible position the bedwetters will put them in.

Fair points.
Good to keep calm after a display like that today.

 

[alcoblade]

I think betwetting is a bit strong. We are hitting the home stretch of one of the worst seasons any team has ever experienced. Certainly in the Premier League era. Ergo, if any team ever warranted heavy, heavy criticism...

I’m not referring to the team - all criticism is fair there.

I’m talking about the overreaction to a stand in manager after 2 1/2 matches.

It’s the same weak minded fools that jump in so quickly - whatever the rationale.

 

[Rodley]

I don’t understand why he hasn’t tinkered with a few things, but at the same time, I barely care. The season’s over and he isn’t getting the job.

But, for me, the bedwetting on show is a perfect example of how some fans can perform as pathetically as this team.

And whatever scenario we end up discussing, the bedwetters are the same, usual suspects.

The criticism of Heckingbottom is ludicrous.

But I do think there is a case to appoint the new manager PDQ. The current system is absolutely hardwired into the players, their confidence is being obliterated every match.

This season is a write off and for me we may as well make a start now implementing a new style of football and system. We’re going to lose every game anyway and I do think there’s going to be an inevitable and uncomfortable period of transition when the new manager comes in. I’d rather begin that now than be sat in the bottom 6 of the Championship 5-10 games in with the fans baying for blood.

 

[The Crab]

Ex Liverpool and ROI player. Been a co-commentaror for years.

In a few years, people will be asking "who is John Lundstrum". And less people will have heard of him than those who have heard of Jim Beglin.

Still, at least he'll be able to count his money, so thats ok then eh...............

 

[The Crab]

Will the new fella get such a long and luxurious chance at turning it around?

Nope.

I already want him out even though I've no idea who it is yet.

Just want to be ahead of the curve.............

 

[Ginger Gnome]

Most of the players are very familiar with another system that we've used in previous seasons. Heckingbottom's Under-23s play a very similar system to that, so even if he's comitted to a back 3, there's scope for doing a lot more with that than just doing exactly what Wilder would have done.

Nobody is expecting him to reinvent the wheel for the few weeks that he's in charge, but at least get rid of the rusty nails stuck in it, get the puncture repair kit out and pump up the tyres for a few games. He looks as jaded and as disinterested as the mardy bugger he replaced and seems to have little interest in promoting youth despite that being his actual job.

 

[Weasel]

In a few years, people will be asking "who is John Lundstrum". And less people will have heard of him than those who have heard of Jim Beglin.

Still, at least he'll be able to count his money, so thats ok then eh...............

And just think that tonight good old Lunny will be sat relaxing on his comfy sofa in his 6 bedroom mansion watching tele without a care in the world and thinking occasionally about the contract he wants to sign with some other PL mugs for a King's randsom each week. Warms the cockles of your heart doesn't it.

 

[The Crab]

And just think that tonight good old Lunny will be sat relaxing on his comfy sofa in his 6 bedroom mansion watching tele without a care in the world and thinking occasionally about the contract he wants to sign with some other PL mugs for a King's randsom each week. Warms the cockles of your heart doesn't it.

It doesn't even piss me off any more. I just want the season done, and Lundstrum gone.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Who’s Jim beglin

He’s a commentator, incidentally he’d probably make a more positive contribution to a football match than Lundstram manages.