He's going nowhere!

[Blacksea]

No. Shouldn’t be necessary. The next one might understand how to manage a football team. If he or she doesn’t, then you clearly have to conclude that the owners are incompetent at which point you may as well pack it in. I’m not sure you share my conviction that Selles is the worst Ive seen since Weir and he will not get any better. You seem to imply that I’m after sacking every manager that doesn’t get a win a game. No. I believe this guy doesn’t know what he is doing and nobody could be worse.

Man management in football is apparently the be all and end all,and has been for a while now,if the majority of the players are not having you or your tactics then you are done at most clubs.

 

[spongebobblade]

It was always going to be hard for him, as sacking Wilder divided the fan base. The Wilder in faction, think there's a chance of getting Mardyarse back, so Selles failing ATM plays right into their hands.

There seems to be a myth peddled by the anti Wilder brigade that all those who wanted to keep him will be quite happy to see Selles fail on the off chance he might come back.

Bollocks

I want what’s best for my team and in the last year of parachute payments I thought sticking with CW would have been the right choice. Others thought differently though so we made the change. Despite other more experienced candidates we went for Selles.
A team takes time to gel but we aren’t even seeing anything promising with regards his tactics and planning. Infact quite the opposite. He looks alarmingly out of his depth.
He needs to go. That doesn’t mean CW should come back but at least someone who can get the best out of a talented bunch of players who either don’t buy into or dont understand how he wants to play. Maybe they as baffled as we are about what he’s trying to do

 

[ATL Recs]

This has to be the most pathetic post I’ve read this weekend

I wanted Wilder out in February abd was aware at the beginning of April a month before the season end that he wouldn’t be here regardless of division this season - the decision was being considered way before we started the blip at Oxford

Selles won’t be sacked now he’s got until the next International break early October and if performances don’t improve he’s gone

But anyone on here supporting giving him more time is deluded and should have learnt their lesson with Adkins who conned us for a season with verbal bull

The bloke tells us we dominated Boro second half with a kid centre forward playing on the left wing them putting him at right wing back

Travelling up & down the country following our team and watching God awful tactical decisions and team that is good enough to be picking up points just look so devoid of any idea what there meant to be doing/playing absolutely no structure to the team a midfield that everybody can see is not working, we have as fans every right to vent our feelings and if that's singing your getting sacked in the morning then so be it. How else are we meant to let the owners and this fraud know we don't want him here? He's had plenty of time to figure out a system that works but he can't because he's a total fraud and absolutely clueless. I don't like the singing for wilder he's gone and not coming back neither would I want him back but this man has to be sacked and he will be sacked.

he will get sacked but don’t be surprised if it’s mid October and lwe are cut adrift with our neighbours

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

Whatever happens, he needs some time to actually decide and train the players. We gutted the team and are slowly getting new players in.

I don't like us losing either, but we've got to be grown ups - the context of the defeats is pretty clear - the club weren't ready for these matches. Not Selles... the club weren't ready.

I really hope next season is the first for ages that we're actually ready for. After lessons learned etc.

Selles seems smart and seemed popular at former clubs. If we can't believe better is to come, supporting a football team is pretty pointless.

We gutted the team? Absolute bollocks.

We've lost Sousa and Anel. Two players isn't gutting.

Time the train the players?!?! He's had all Summer and a month of the season to imbed his coaching philosophy and tactics on the 85% of the players who finished third last season and has catastrophically failed to do so.

Even losing Anel we still had Cooper/Burrows/JLT/Seriki from last seasons back 5.

There is absolutely zero signs that this is going to get any better. The 'give him time' brigade can't give one cogent reason why this shit show isn't going to continue until the next international break.

 

[Ron_Justice]

Whatever happens, he needs some time to actually decide and train the players. We gutted the team and are slowly getting new players in.

I don't like us losing either, but we've got to be grown ups - the context of the defeats is pretty clear - the club weren't ready for these matches. Not Selles... the club weren't ready.

I really hope next season is the first for ages that we're actually ready for. After lessons learned etc.

Selles seems smart and seemed popular at former clubs. If we can't believe better is to come, supporting a football team is pretty pointless.

Agree with this, absolutely, but my fear is that we'll be too far adrift, once he's fully bedded in the players and tactics. Last thing I want is more agricultural, Dino footy, but I also see the reality of the situation - we need promotion to avoid undoing all the hard work from the last decade.

 

[blade too long]

Hes going nowhere ?

Its Sheffield United going nowhere under him

Except league one

Just need a manager who has an idea of what ro do

 

[Macfarlane21]

 

[de g.]

Let’s just be blunt.

Did we need to make a change & should we have sacked Wilder? No.

Despite playoff heartbreak, which was upsetting he turned the squad around, in 1 window. 17 departures & 13 incomings & as a collective still put 92 points on the board.

Sellés Vs Wilder is a red herring.

Getting rid of Wilder wasn't necessarily essential, but it wasn't irrational.

There are more considerations than just the results over one season. This board, and this period with Sellés generally, has exposed that we had essentially become a cult of personality rather than a football club. My reading of the summer is that the board gave him a choice ("our way or part ways") and Wilder essentially chose the latter, or at least decided he couldn't work with the former.

As for Sellés, we took the risk and failed fast. Learn from it, move onwards not backwards. There are plenty of good managers out there who aren't cults of personality or weak efforts at trolling (Röhl).

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

Sellés Vs Wilder is a red herring.

Getting rid of Wilder wasn't necessarily essential, but it wasn't irrational.

There are more considerations than just the results over one season. This board, and this period with Sellés generally, has exposed that we had essentially become a cult of personality rather than a football club. My reading of the summer is that the board gave him a choice ("our way or part ways") and Wilder essentially chose the latter, or at least decided he couldn't work with the former.

As for Sellés, we took the risk and failed fast. Learn from it, move onwards not backwards. There are plenty of good managers out there who aren't cults of personality or weak efforts at trolling (Röhl).

Great post and demonstrates more football nous than COHSports have shown in the past 8 months.....

 

[Yellarbellyblade]

Can’t decide if an international break is a good thing or a bad thing for Selles. On one hand he has extra time to work with squad, we’re not losing that many. On the other it gives the owners time to sack him and get someone else. American corporate types are not known for their patience are they

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

Selles can do what this fella is doing...because i'm not listening.

 

[N20 Blade]

One of the crossroads moments in our history was last January.

If only we had spent every penny possible on Tanganga, as opposed to cannon and holding.

Where there is a will, there is a way.

Pointless, to apportion blame but the majority of us knew the situation. Collective or individual failure at the club.

Whether we recover in the short term is debatable. However, the long term looks bleak.

Early days but the promoted sides have started well especially Sunderland.

Should that mean 2-3 of the established PL teams get relegated then next season is a closed shop.

A fourth consecutive season outside the top flight, consigns you to the mass of also rans.

It’s such a shame that with the pigs in an even worse state, we can’t rub them into the dust.

Clearly Selles is abject, but some of the players have been awful too. Sorry to compare again, but their young players have given everything but ours?

 

[Sheffsteel]

One of the crossroads moments in our history was last January.

If only we had spent every penny possible on Tanganga, as opposed to cannon and holding.

Where there is a will, there is a way.

Pointless, to apportion blame but the majority of us knew the situation. Collective or individual failure at the club.

Whether we recover in the short term is debatable. However, the long term looks bleak.

Early days but the promoted sides have started well especially Sunderland.

Should that mean 2-3 of the established PL teams get relegated then next season is a closed shop.

A fourth consecutive season outside the top flight, consigns you to the mass of also rans.

It’s such a shame that with the pigs in an even worse state, we can’t rub them into the dust.

Clearly Selles is abject, but some of the players have been awful too. Sorry to compare again, but their young players have given everything but ours?

See your point…in hindsight I agree…..but no club has hindsight.
If we’d bought Tanganga and then suddenly stopped scoring.
Many Blades would be saying if only we had showed more ambition and bought Cannon….Sunderland showed the ambition and reaped the rewards
They bought him instead and they’re now in the PL.

Would love major decisions to be done via a fan vote….then we’d realise how useless fans are regards decision making.
Regards a manager I reckon most fans would prefer Wilder and give him a 6 year contract, then Billy Sharp, then Hecky, then Nick Montgomery….see the pattern.
If either of the above managers start losing a few, then our fans would want them paid off and sacked.
Also our fans would blow any budget in record time building up massive debts, spending above FFP restrictions so we face points deductions and possibly admin.

 

[redandwhitewizard]

If he's not going anywhere then it's going to be a relegation 6 pointer against the pigs in November. I really don't want to see what a derby looks like with this guy in charge.

 

[Rufus Smalls]

Have you seen anything that makes you think 5 points from the 3 games is likely.
There is no improvement at all in any of the games sofar and he can't even see the problems. He needs To go now

One positive from the Boro match is that the finishing 11 looked decent and Ings actually made himself available for the midfield to play the ball to him, then he at least looked to play towards the goal. He has to start next match even if he only lasts an hour.

 

[Rufus Smalls]

I do agree with a lot of that to be fair. But, by the same token, it's hard to defend the likes of Campbell who barely broke a sweat yesterday.

Agreed, someone on here mentioned that Ings created more in 15 minutes than Campbell managed in the last 2 games. Ings has to start next match for me or his signing will be a waste of time.

 

[manxblade]

One positive from the Boro match is that the finishing 11 looked decent and Ings actually made himself available for the midfield to play the ball to him, then he at least looked to play towards the goal. He has to start next match even if he only lasts an hour.

That was not a tactical change though he just put all the subs on it left huge holes at the back

 

[Constantly Optimistic...]

Agreed, someone on here mentioned that Ings created more in 15 minutes than Campbell managed in the last 2 games. Ings has to start next match for me or his signing will be a waste of time.

The problem is that Selles will probably start with Cannon ahead of Ings. His first attacking sub yesterday, Cannon????? Who immediately fell over on his first touch giving Boro a counter attack opportunity. This is the standard of decision making currently.

 

[Youngand70]

You mean similar to the one we let go to Wrexham?

Not particularly a big fan of Moore but in 4 league games for Wrexham he has scored 3 goals. In 4 league games our whole team has scored 1 goal!!!

 

[Maurice Maurice]

Remember the 'good old days' when things weren't working and there was obvious disquiet among the players? The captain and/or senior players would either meet up and iron things out or get with the manager, lay their cards on the table and try to find a way out of this hole. Does that still happen or now they all have agents are they ok with failure as they're more concerned about their get out clause than they are about working hard for the team.

 

[Silky Sabella]

Sorry chaps but listening to this, he's staying put. Can't say I blame him as he's still pretty new in the job and desperate to do well. Made a few good signings in Godfrey, Ings and Tanganga and should we get another one or two in who improve the squad, who knows. International break, an extra week to try and get everyone on board and if we still look shite then it's never going to work so that'll be the point of no return I'd guess. Not sure what the owners are thinking, they're invisible so who knows.

I'd normally be frothing at the mouth to be honest but seeing that 'sacked in the morning' shite after the game was fucking cringeworthy for me, and I actually felt sorry for the bloke. Whoever came in after Wilder was going to be met by weeping and wailing from the poor little lambs who'll never get over losing 'Our Chrissy' and even if we'd won four on the bounce they'd still be fucking moaning.

Anyway, fuck Danny Rohl because talk of getting him is fucking embarrassing. Lets see what the transfer window brings and try to chill a bit, Bill Shankly was wrong, it's really not more important than life or death.

UTBFTP

Post of the year Maurice Maurice !
I endorse every word you say.
Love the phrase "weeping and wailing from the poor little lambs over losing our Chrissy"
Absolutely brilliant

 

[de g.]

Post of the year Maurice Maurice !
I endorse every word you say.
Love the phrase "weeping and wailing from the poor little lambs over losing our Chrissy"
Absolutely brilliant

From a Man City Wednesday fan.

 

[Northernsoulblade]

From a Man City Wednesday fan.

100% blade

 

[nopigfansintown]

The "transitional season" nonsense is pure copium. This is our season to go up. He needs to build on the amazing work done last year, build on the great foundation he's been left by CW, further develop our players (including the academy lads that currently look lost) and get us in the automatic race. If the board don't think he can do that he needs relieving of his duties asap. If the converse is true he needs backing.

This is a business that relies on selling players and finishing high in the league to win prize money. You can't say "it's ok for our league position to be crap and our players to look shit for a year; he gets a pass due to my undying faith ". He has to show he can work on the fly creating a team that's effective. This isn't a fashion parade where we give points for aesthetics merit (newsflash: there hasn't been any) - it's a results based business. There's no Burnley or Leeds this year so we went into it as favourites in many eyes. So far we've lost one player that hasn't really been replaced (Souza) and signed a lot of other quality. Do you honestly think any competent Championship manager would make us look this bad so far? That's how inept it has been. If you're looking for something to believe in there's been absolutely nothing.

 

[Foody]

Selles is going, the last 3 managers to have lost the opening 4 games of the championship season were all sacked. 1 in September, the other two by October. None of them had the budget or expectations that we have this season, I don't see a scenario where he rides this start out. The new owners understand the expectations and need to succeed this season, they know the fan option. They'll act.

Whether we give him the international break to get his messages across, I'm not sure. By by mid October (at the latest) there'll be someone else in the dugout.

I'm normally not one for sacking managers. For me you pull the trigger early, fail quickly and move on. The manager who followed Wilder always had a mountain to climb with some of the fan base and no doubt people at the club. Selles replacement will be judged differently.

 

[Camden Blade]

Win at Ipswich and everything looks different. By Monday evening he should have a team capable of winning football matches. I agree he'll be given to October and rightly so. If there's been no significant improvement he'll go and rightly so.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Leaving the inevitable until after the Charlton game will be too late in my book. I’d sooner the games against Ipswich and Charlton be part of the new managers honeymoon period, than being the final act an already beleaguered Selles…It’s not inconceivable we could be 18 points behind the leaders after by that point.

 

[Æthelstan]

Whatever happens, he needs some time to actually decide and train the players. We gutted the team and are slowly getting new players in.

I don't like us losing either, but we've got to be grown ups - the context of the defeats is pretty clear - the club weren't ready for these matches. Not Selles... the club weren't ready.

I really hope next season is the first for ages that we're actually ready for. After lessons learned etc.

Selles seems smart and seemed popular at former clubs. If we can't believe better is to come, supporting a football team is pretty pointless.

Popular? I've seen Hull fans comment on how bad and stubborn he is tactically.

It is Selles choosing to play Peck as essentially a lone midfielder. He's handicapped us by repeatedly making the same mistakes for 5 games.

 

[Keen Blade]

They might not be there mate but surely they'll see the reaction and realize all is not well. More importantly to them they'll see the business they've bought and are putting money into is failing and failing fast that is something they won't put up with you would think anyway. The man is a disaster that we can't carry on with an hope something clicks, it just isn't going to. The time to go is now. Donny could actually pass us they've started brilliant this season.

They've got Billy Sharp

 

[Keen Blade]

No matter who the manager is on Tuesday then unless we've brought a big CF who can hold the ball up as well as winning headers, this group of players (not really a team yet) cannot function properly no matter what the formation. Also handy to have such a player to defend free kicks and corners.
Wrexham got one for around 2 million so It should be relatively easy for us to get one.

And he's scored 3 so far this season