Here's a stat.....

[blader]

Not sure how important this is, but thought it may be interesting. After scouring our results, I have deduced that after 25 matches of this season, there have only been 6 occasions where we have scored after conceding a goal. That's not necessarily to regain any points e.g. Coventry, however I find it interesting because:

1. It suggests we never score any late, or important goals
2. and more importantly, it shows that we never find a way back. Once we concede, our confidence gets shot to bits, and we have no reply.

This equates (more maths) to 988 minutes (11 matches) of football played after conceding a goal, and we have managed only 7 goals in that time.

We also have not won a game from a losing position, and only accumulated 3 points in total from losing positions, all at home. This is intriguing, and very worrying. To me, this is hard evidence our team lacks bottle and heads must drop the second we concede a goal. Needs addressing very quickly.

 

[Kenilworth]

That's because we have nothing to change a game after conceding.

The only option we have is brandy and he has proved to be a headless chicken so the manager and the coaching staff don't trust him. He is poncing himself on twitter stating he has sorted his mental state out but he is probably not showing enough in training to make people believe he is worth a shout.

Cannot see us getting anyone in that will make such a difference by the end of the JTW as that sort of player will go to a team chasing promo not fighting relegation. So it will remain an up and down, in and out affair until we scrape ourselves out of trouble.

 

[UnitedBlade]

Worrying and symptomatic of lack of leadership.

We have struggled with this since Morgan retired.

We will not attract the necessary person this window given our position.

Our home games for the rest of the season are crucial. We need a bit of luck as well.

In the absence of this type of leader, we are crying out for decent strikers. That should change our fortune. That is where Cloughie should be concentrating his search.

 

[Large Mendonca]

We need a proper captain, but unfortunately I don't see one within the existing playing staff and would have to buy one in. Easier said than done......

 

[Hodges Left Peg]

Yesterday was crying out for leadership. How do our managers keep avoiding this issue. Definitely a reason for never coming from behind or scoring a late goal. Warnock's era was full of comebacks and late goals.

 

[Deadbat]

I agree there is no fight, no desire and no urgency in this side.

We never really look like scoring late goals, or making comebacks when we go behind. Many of the same players have been part of this trend for 2 or 3 seasons. They have had so many chances yet still are here.

I would be totally in favour of a radical overhaul letting every single one of the out of contract players go and then transfer listing many more. We need to start again. There is nothing here that suggests many could be part of a side tat sees us moving up this league let alone the league above.

Sadly the lack of any action since our investment suggests in reality we have not changed anything and there is probably little money to spend.

The way games are just slipping by concerns me. Before we know it will be the last weekend of the season and we will be in a similar position and you know the rest if we need something on the last day....

I cannot believe so many are quite relaxed about things re - relegation and seem to think we will survive comfortably. This teams looks for all the world a relegation side and nothing suggests these players will suddenly 'get it' in terms of the fight, desire and urgency to get some results.

 

[Jonboy60]

That's because we have nothing to change a game after conceding.

The only option we have is brandy and he has proved to be a headless chicken so the manager and the coaching staff don't trust him. He is poncing himself on twitter stating he has sorted his mental state out but he is probably not showing enough in training to make people believe he is worth a shout.

Cannot see us getting anyone in that will make such a difference by the end of the JTW as that sort of player will go to a team chasing promo not fighting relegation. So it will remain an up and down, in and out affair until we scrape ourselves out of trouble.

Serious open question, never understood THE "doesn't show enough in training" can someone explain. Honestly dont get it.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Worrying and symptomatic of lack of leadership.

We have struggled with this since Morgan retired.

We will not attract the necessary person this window given our position.

Our home games for the rest of the season are crucial. We need a bit of luck as well.

In the absence of this type of leader, we are crying out for decent strikers. That should change our fortune. That is where Cloughie should be concentrating his search.

Never thought I'd say this but we need someone like Vinny Jones.

Bassett had it sussed.

 

[Silent Blade]

I agree there is no fight, no desire and no urgency in this side.

We never really look like scoring late goals, or making comebacks when we go behind. Many of the same players have been part of this trend for 2 or 3 seasons. They have had so many chances yet still are here.

I would be totally in favour of a radical overhaul letting every single one of the out of contract players go and then transfer listing many more. We need to start again. There is nothing here that suggests many could be part of a side tat sees us moving up this league let alone the league above.

Sadly the lack of any action since our investment suggests in reality we have not changed anything and there is probably little money to spend.

The way games are just slipping by concerns me. Before we know it will be the last weekend of the season and we will be in a similar position and you know the rest if we need something on the last day....

I cannot believe so many are quite relaxed about things re - relegation and seem to think we will survive comfortably. This teams looks for all the world a relegation side and nothing suggests these players will suddenly 'get it' in terms of the fight, desire and urgency to get some results.

You saying that a lot of fans seem to think we are alright reminded me of the night when I was in the BLUT watching us lose 2-1 to Fulham in April 1981. There was someone behind me that was getting attention from fans around where I was sitting, it was 50ish year old Blade fan who always wore a Trilby hat that I remember from the early 1970s who was always excited when he hears from his tranny radio that Wendy are losing (I remember once at half time he was telling everyone that Wendy were losing 4-0 at Bolton). This Blade with the Trilby hat was looking very upset and agitated, a group of fans came up to him to ask what was the matter, he responded saying that we could get relegation to the 4th division. He was laughed at by the group of fans but in the end this Blade fan with the Trilby hat was right!

 

[Jehovah]

Serious open question, never understood THE "doesn't show enough in training" can someone explain. Honestly dont get it.

I think its posh for "I think they're shit"

 

[JohnDenver]

1. It suggests we never score any late, or important goals
2. and more importantly, it shows that we never find a way back. Once we concede, our confidence gets shot to bits, and we have no reply.

Aren't these traits simply those of poor sides everywhere? I wonder how they stack up with the other relegation candidates' stats.

 

[axel smeets]

I agree there is no fight, no desire and no urgency in this side.

We never really look like scoring late goals, or making comebacks when we go behind. Many of the same players have been part of this trend for 2 or 3 seasons. They have had so many chances yet still are here.

I would be totally in favour of a radical overhaul letting every single one of the out of contract players go and then transfer listing many more. We need to start again. There is nothing here that suggests many could be part of a side tat sees us moving up this league let alone the league above.

Sadly the lack of any action since our investment suggests in reality we have not changed anything and there is probably little money to spend.

The way games are just slipping by concerns me. Before we know it will be the last weekend of the season and we will be in a similar position and you know the rest if we need something on the last day....

I cannot believe so many are quite relaxed about things re - relegation and seem to think we will survive comfortably. This teams looks for all the world a relegation side and nothing suggests these players will suddenly 'get it' in terms of the fight, desire and urgency to get some results.

Agree totally. Some of my mates that I attend matches with are so blasé about the possibility of relegation. With every passing week that we don't win, we increase the danger. Let's not forget that we have got 2 games to rearrange now, one at Colchester and another against champions - elect Brentford and the fact that we won't be playing in 2 weeks time when most of the division will be could mean we are 3 or 4 points adrift with 2 games in hand.

Cue then, early April with United three points adrift, and fans saying 'we'll be alright, we'll beat Col U away and then Brentford and we'll be safe.' A draw and a defeat in those games and lo and behold, here's Leon Clarke and Callum Wilson on the last day to send us down.

 

[CloughLove]

Doesnt help having chris porter as your main striker.

Just wish this season would hurry up and end so Nigel can get rid of the dross left from Adams, Wilson & Wier.

 

[UnitedBlade]

Another worrying stat is we have only beaten two sides who are above us in the league. Two narrow victories at home versus Swindon and Port Vale.

We need another 25 points or so from 21 games (I would like us to aim for 30) and I'm not yet confident we have it in us. The points run rate since Weir departed is 20 points from 15 games. We might just squeak it with that but we haven't seen sufficient improvement yet.

 

[Kenilworth]

Serious open question, never understood THE "doesn't show enough in training" can someone explain. Honestly dont get it.

You've never played football at any real level then? Serious question not a dig

 

[sheffielder]

It's the refs fault

 

[Jonboy60]

You've never played football at any real level then? Serious question not a dig

Yes I have, not at any real level no, pub league standard. But what does the manager or his staff see in training that says to them "you know what, brandy( substitute any name) he's not showing anything in training, he's not ready yet. But f@@k me Doyle(as above) he's really putting the effort in, first on the team sheet every week. And we all know what happens on most match days, according to most observers,stealing money. So no kenilworth still no wiser.

 

[Bulletnut]

Doesnt help having chris porter as your main striker.

Just wish this season would hurry up and end so Nigel can get rid of the dross left from Adams, Wilson & Wier.

That's us all over though isn't it, always wishing that our current plight will end so we can have a clear out and bring in something better? It never happens, we don't clear the shit out because there's too much of it and nobody wants it, and we never bring a number of decent players in because we have no real ambition.

We're a 3rd division club with 3rd division aspirations I'm afraid. I'll be fucking gobsmacked if this so called Prince makes a jot of difference to who we are.

 

[Woodwardfan]

Never thought I'd say this but we need someone like Vinny Jones.

Bassett had it sussed.

Right idea, wrong player - rather Bob Booker and Glyn Hodges, there are more ways to fight than wearing a badge for it !

 

[Woodwardfan]

Strangely I reckon we always have a bench stacked with players who would walk into most League 1 teams so I honestly don't think that is the problem.

Actually I think we need Brandy to succeed, probably more than he needs us in a way, because I think plenty of clubs will want to give him a chance with them.

 

[blade too long]

I never saw why coming back from 1-0 down to win 2-1 shows the team has character, surely they displayed a lack of charater going behind in the first place

 

[blader]

*bump*

Happened again. A terrifying pattern emerging here

 

[true99blade]

So far this month we've played 3 league games and managed to lose 8 points from winning positions. This is seriously not good enough. Relegation.

 

[OllyBlade]

3 leads lost in 3 league matches. 4 leads lost in 4 matches if include Villa. Losing away, drawing at home. Playing okay, lots of endeavour, not getting enough points. A manager who has chucked away half of his attacking players. The parallels emerging with our last relegation season in particular are clear to see, and that was a season also characterised by a supposed 'change in style' at its beginning as well, remember.

Honestly, I'd be amazed now if we weren't relegated.

 

[sheffielder]

Apparently wr are just unlucky

 

[blader]

Just thought I'd update this stat, as I think this is becoming ever-important.

Since the OP, we have played 2 league games. We conceded the first against Bradford in the the 56th minute, and obviously failed to score again. (34 mins)

We conceded the first in the 37th minute today, and guess what? We scored the square root of fuck all in the 53 minutes afterwards.

Added to the initial tally, that makes 7 goals in 1075 minutes in games after conceding a goal.

Fan-fooking-tastic