Hecky out?

[Sheffsteel]

I can handle losing and relegation. I can't handle losing and relegation without putting up any kind of fight and approaching every game the same way and hoping it will somehow work this week.

Hecky is a nice guy and I'm sure a good coach, but he's out of his depth and clearly doesn't know how to change things. Another manager might not stop us getting relegated, but they might make us look organised. They might make us look like a team. They might make us resemble having some kind of approach and tactics. They might, just might, get some results from this team. They might give us something to enjoy watching and a small ray of hope that we might actually compete in a match.

Enough is enough. Hecky out. Get rid now. His record in the Championship was respectable, though the number of consistent performances and deserved wins we had under him is hugely debatable. His overall record in the Premier League is dire. And yes, we did win three matches under him last time, but two of those came AFTER relegation was confirmed. He didn't stop the rot and oversaw our biggest loss of that season.

We are an embarassment to the Premier League and to this once proud football club and breaking Derby's record isn't even a running joke now, it's a genuine reality.

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Well written that.
Can't disagree. We are becoming a laughing stock where opposition teams don't need to try that hard and still beat us.
The results are generally respectable but we are many levels below PL standard as though we're a league 1 or league 2 team playing a PL club in the cup.

We were an upper Championship team last year so why aren't we playing like one.
I had a theory last season that even one of the best squads and most expensively assembled squads we regularly struggled to convince last season.
In many games we were a similar standard to the opposition but we have the magic of N'Duaye to bail us out.

Fans who say the manager makes no difference are totally wrong.
Remember when we appointed Howard Kendall, almost overnight we turned into a short passing team where every player looked comfortable on the ball.
When we appointed Wilder again almost immediately we looked well drilled as though passing drills/ routines had been practised in training.
We also started showing more desire and confidence.

 

[Pedro's Winger]

This season is a great measure of why it’s not always good just to be ‘positive’ which I would call ‘delusional’ before the season.

All those people that are now hecky out are the ones who deluded themselves into thinking we had a good chance of staying up. It’s not Hecky’s fault, the squad is not good enough it’s quite frankly as simple as that.

It’s tiresome seeing people defend abject shit players just becusee you ‘can’t write them off after 5 games’. Yes, you can. We saw enough from these players to know they’re not good enough but the deluded ‘optimists’are now lost, whereas your reasonable prescient football could see clear as day preseason that this squad has ni hope. (This stretches to last season by the way, where I stand by we really weren’t that good)

Hecky in, hecky out, means absolutely fuck all. I’ve always been ambivalent to him, just hope the next bloke isn’t a c*** and we go again next year. It’s not his fault though runs so much deeper

Nah, that performance was way below what the players are capable of.
Too many basic mistakes, no drive, just a bag of nothing.
We were always likely to go down but playing like this isn't acceptable.

 

[hull-Blade]

Time for a change , thanks for everything you have done since replacing Slav but this can’t carry on .

Totally devoid of ideas , tactics are clearly one dimensional , no obvious on field leadership and above all lack of endeavour and fight .

 

[steve26272]

So far been behind him

But there’s no real positives
No threat
No identity
No plan B
Limited motivation

However the players just aren’t good enough

So I’m stuck between

“Someone new couldn’t do any worse”

And

“You can’t polish a turd”

However, either use the international break and do it now, or back him to take us back up next year imo.

 

[Richeee]

Can't we put him on "gardening leave" until we go down?

Sadly he needs to be put out of his (and ours) misery. How many times do we see him on the touchline with arms folded while the team burns on the pitch. He won't change the system sub players or DO anything until its too late. While I accept its 100% down to our owner its Hecky who will carry the can.

 

[Sharp as a blade]

Firmly now in the Hecky out camp too tbh.

We're not even competitive. Every game we look like a league one team has drawn a prem team in the cup.

Last season we had Ndiaye, Berge and McAtee who were all too good for that level and we relied on their individual brilliance to create something.

He's tactically out of his depth. We have a -16 GD from 8 games and look terrible at defending, attacking, set pieces and transitions. We basically have nothing to offer in this division under Hecky this season.

 

[straight_outta_compton]

Get Potter in.

We need some magic from somewhere!!!

 

[Colombia Blade]

The spirit and fight does seem to have gone looking at the last few performances. Whether that's down to the manager I don't know. If we did replace Hecky it would have to be for someone who's an excellent motivator cos they won't be able to sign new players and it's doubtful whether they'd be given a big budget for January seeing as we didn't even get one for the summer. I see some people saying Potter and while he's got a great record, I think he's well out of our league.

Who's a realistic replacement for Hecky that might actually turn things around?

 

[Rodley]

The new signings aren’t good enough. The existing players aren’t good enough. The team is worse than the team which came up and this bollocks about “leaving your signings until the end of the window to get value” was utter horseshit and destroyed our preseason.

Get a new manager, can’t see anything changing.

 

[YES Blade]

This season is a great measure of why it’s not always good just to be ‘positive’ which I would call ‘delusional’ before the season.

All those people that are now hecky out are the ones who deluded themselves into thinking we had a good chance of staying up. It’s not Hecky’s fault, the squad is not good enough it’s quite frankly as simple as that.

It’s tiresome seeing people defend abject shit players just becusee you ‘can’t write them off after 5 games’. Yes, you can. We saw enough from these players to know they’re not good enough but the deluded ‘optimists’are now lost, whereas your reasonable prescient football could see clear as day preseason that this squad has ni hope. (This stretches to last season by the way, where I stand by we really weren’t that good)

Hecky in, hecky out, means absolutely fuck all. I’ve always been ambivalent to him, just hope the next bloke isn’t a c*** and we go again next year. It’s not his fault though runs so much deeper

I don’t think it’s delusional to expect better than 1 point from 8 matches is it?

Everyone knew we would do well to stay up, but we aren’t even in the battle, we’re going down without any fight and at risk of breaking records.

I don’t think it’s delusional to expect better than that!

 

[Harry's Game]

Reluctantly I now have to say yes. I doubt it will make any difference but it’s the last roll of the dice to avoid the Derby record.

 

[Hillsboro Blade]

Lack of effort boils my piss. I can take losing, nothing wrong with that, but it’s how you lose that’s the issue. Most of these players earn in a week what the average United supporter earns in a year. Enough’s enough. They want a kick up the fucking arse and then some. Stop feeling sorry for themselves, grow some bollocks and look at Chris Basham. They should be ashamed of themselves.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

I think he's been completely hard done by but the only change we can truly make is a the manager. This includes the backroom staff as promoting those probably means little changes.

 

[Broomhall Blade]

I've voted yes you only have too look down the road at S6 to see what effect getting a new man in has on a team, 44% possession and a shot on target.
Heckingbottom out.


but only if it's NOT bloody Wilder.

 

[Belvedere Blade]

Hecky has to go. He is just clueless when making changes/subs. Has to go or Blades will be adrift at bottom of table come Christmas.

 

[blader]

I don’t think it’s delusional to expect better than 1 point from 8 matches is it?

Everyone knew we would do well to stay up, but we aren’t even in the battle, we’re going down without any fight and at risk of breaking records.

I don’t think it’s delusional to expect better than that!

That’s where we disagree! We threw away 2 winnable games with squad for the first 2 matches. Since then, in mi opinion, we could only expect any points from the Everton game. So at best we’d be looking at 3pts from here.

I just don’t think people realised how far off our squad is - hence what I’d call delusion

 

[Sheffsteel]

Just listening to Carl Asaba giving his match summary on Radio Sheffield.

He's really laying into the players and the manager. Said it's one of the worse display he's seem in years.

He says it was so obvious the formation wasn't working and was only a matter of time before Fulham scored....so why not change it early?
He also said that you accept that sometimes you might not be good enough but you have tactics and die for the team.

Asaba said we lost with a whimper and it was a massive failure.
He made reference to the Wilder team where players were frightened of giving less than 100% otherwise they'd be dropped.

He says Fulham schooled us with their shape and formations, the player quality become irrelevant
and asked why we can't adapt to different tactics and formations, far too easy for Fulham.

 

[SUFCinks]

Hecky is a great man, honest, humble, personable but he’s not a top manager. There is no style of play, no fight just averageness. At this level you can’t be average you have to have at least fight or effort.

He has to go for me but i have no idea who we bring in. We are skint though so will be shopping in the bargain basement if at all. We can’t afford to pay off that ridiculous 5 year contract. I think we might be stuck with him for the season or beyond. I was so excited to be in the prem but the grass isn’t always greener. We take the money and hope we can make some squad improvements, most our squad are just not up to standards. I don’t trust hecky to spend though.

 

[Jon Bon II]

His position is untenable now but who would come? Would you trust Prince Can'tbearsed to get it right with a replacement?

 

[madeinsheffield]

I feel for him, only been able to buy lower than average players but he’s the one picking the team and motivating them. There’s a lack of effort out there, I accept a lack of ability not a lack of effort

 

[Nah den]

I said it last week, as well as Hecky did last season, it's time for a change. No fight, no plan, no aggressive, no cohesion, no effort, that's all at the manager's door. They need a new voice, someone to try and raise confidence, give them a rocket, just something because at the moment it's pitiful.

 

[Bobby b]

Hecky is a lovely fella, and he has done remarkable things while he's been at the lane and I've always been in his corner but even I am beginning to wonder whether he can carry on, I always knew that staying in this league was a long shot but at the moment it's embarrassing being a unitedite, I can take it that our players aren't as good as the opponents but to have no fight is unacceptable, also if I Saw some sort of plan, like soak up the pressure and them hit them on the break or even if it was long ball I could understand to some degree but I can't see any plan or tactic that can get us any points, I feel immensely sorry for hecky but I don't think he's the man for the job, the problem is, with the the players we've got, I haven't a clue who the man is for the job, I'd like to keep hecky at the club in some capacity but I don't think he would accept that.

 

[Bladezz]

Hard to defend today.

3-1 Fulham split us open whenever they wanted. At 2-1 up they weren’t even concerned about us and kept attacking.

 

[s20Blade]

Hecky is a great man, honest, humble, personable but he’s not a top manager. There is no style of play, no fight just averageness. At this level you can’t be average you have to have at least fight or effort.

He has to go for me but i have no idea who we bring in. We are skint though so will be shopping in the bargain basement if at all. We can’t afford to pay off that ridiculous 5 year contract. I think we might be stuck with him for the season or beyond. I was so excited to be in the prem but the grass isn’t always greener. We take the money and hope we can make some squad improvements, most our squad are just not up to standards. I don’t trust hecky to spend though.

Keep seeing this 5 year contract reference being pointed out, has he signed a new one or is he still on the original one? If so he should have about 2 and a half years left on it?

 

[Kev Gee]

I feel for Hecky but there has to be some kind of fight. Or signs of progress. However we aren't even showing signs of this or making things difficult for teams. No fight. We simply have to try another way.....

Massive thanks PH but we need to change things up.

 

[sufcboy95]

Yes. He hasn’t got a clue tactically.
Thanks for stabilising the club the last two years, but let’s be honest without Ndiaye in the team last year there’s no way he would’ve got us in to the top 2

 

[Razor_Blade]

This is like Warnock in the prem just without the never say die attitude. Theres absolutely nothing there.

Possibly the most passive Blades team I’ve ever seen.

I'd take Warnock right now. At least he'd make them try!

 

[United Aren't Back.]

This season is a great measure of why it’s not always good just to be ‘positive’ which I would call ‘delusional’ before the season.

All those people that are now hecky out are the ones who deluded themselves into thinking we had a good chance of staying up. It’s not Hecky’s fault, the squad is not good enough it’s quite frankly as simple as that.

It’s tiresome seeing people defend abject shit players just becusee you ‘can’t write them off after 5 games’. Yes, you can. We saw enough from these players to know they’re not good enough but the deluded ‘optimists’are now lost, whereas your reasonable prescient football could see clear as day preseason that this squad has ni hope. (This stretches to last season by the way, where I stand by we really weren’t that good)

Hecky in, hecky out, means absolutely fuck all. I’ve always been ambivalent to him, just hope the next bloke isn’t a c*** and we go again next year. It’s not his fault though runs so much deeper

It's partly his fault. He did nothing in close season to boost the squad, and his signings are average to terrible.
He must stay, to return to a promotion season next year.

 

[LS5 Blade]

If you can't stop teams putting crosses in, keep getting over run in midfield despite having 3 in there, and create nothing, it's probably best you change your tactics and not keep picking the same players in the same formation

On that basis its goodbye from me and thank you for last season!

 

[ReeceofBDTBL]

We didn’t look well managed today and I’m not sure what he’s even trying to do with Souza.

Didn’t look like there was a plan and the tactical awareness during the match was poor