Hecky needs to go NOW!!!

[FallowfieldBlade]

Wilder again this week or have you shifted to Warnock after he schooled Watford and Middlesborough.

What’s up Tom have you ate all your Easter eggs already ?

I probably would yes 3 games at Watford isn’t much is it

 

[Cappy]

It’s not easy to follow this thread with the local spastic on mute. But seeing the replies, he/she/they isn’t getting any smarter.

 

[Tom Bott]

3 games at Watford isn’t much is it

It's more than plenty for him to not win before you call for his head

 

[BarcaBlade]

Gone by November? Oh.
Maybe not.

Class act.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Wilder looks like he’s heading for “not me guv” land again.

 

[bonobo]

It is worth remembering, when Hecky took over from Wilder, the points we picked up under him, would have kept us up. And even if we bought in Pep Guardiola, our most likely final position would be bottom 3. Long term, without a very serious sugar daddy, what will give us the best chance of a 5-10 year run, is not trying to outsign other teams for players and mamagers, but being better at identifying teams and imoroving players than other teams, regardless of if we stay up for a season or go back down. The same should go for our approach to managers and coaches.

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

It’s not easy to follow this thread with the local spastic on mute. But seeing the replies, he/she/they isn’t getting any smarter.

Local spastic

Outrageous

 

[Green7361]

I'd keep Hecky whatever happens if we're promoted, he's clearly got the respect of the players, you only have to listen how highly they speak of him and he's quick to take the blame of the players are giving the ball away when moving it quickly, coz that's what he wants us to do

 

[steve26272]

It is worth remembering, when Hecky took over from Wilder, the points we picked up under him, would have kept us up. And even if we bought in Pep Guardiola, our most likely final position would be bottom 3. Long term, without a very serious sugar daddy, what will give us the best chance of a 5-10 year run, is not trying to outsign other teams for players and mamagers, but being better at identifying teams and imoroving players than other teams, regardless of if we stay up for a season or go back down. The same should go for our approach to managers and coaches.

I reckon part of the “issue” with Hecky is the image

In this current climate of managers wanting the headlines, been bigger than the players, Pep, Klopp, Jose, wilder etc making it all about them, are we underwhelmed by “go about his business” Paul?

he took us from relegation worries to a kick away from playoff final and appears to be dodging that bullet by taking us straight up this year, most of it under turmoil, half of it under an embargo


Look at the wankfest for Carrick - what’s he done? Took a team hovering round the bottom and got them into the play offs

Hecky…..

 

[Sheffsteel]

When anyone gives an opinion why does it need to be polarised.
There's a "Hecky is great' lets keep him for a few years" gang and then there a small "Hecky is shit gang, get rid" gang.

Simon Jordan was making a point on Talksport last week that they are great Championship managers who just aren't suitable for the PL
and would struggle and he also said that there are excellent managers in the Premier League who would struggle in the Championship.

I have reservations about Hecky in the PL, said it before, he reminds me of Southgate for England, average manager (so not good or bad, it's decent and OK)
with excellent players and is very good with the media regards keeping everything safe/ boring, little emotion and grounded
Wilder was much more passionate but more emotional, when we were winning it was great to see such charisma but when his teams are losing you can see he's suffering
where as Hecky and Southgate answer every question with a straight bat, never optimistic or pessimistic, so calm regardless of the form
In the olden days you'd prefer a Wilder mentality but now with social media, it's sad really but the Hecky/ Southgate approach is much more beneficial

Any reasonable person would realise he's earned his chance so deserved a crack at the top flight.
Think he's done a good job this season but having one of the biggest player budgets, you wouldn't call it a great job.

 

[Flippity Gibbert]

So we have a manager, love him or loath him, who looks to have got us promoted with all the back room bollocks of this season. We should at least be saying “well done, you deserve a bit of loyalty, go and keep us up for a good few years” But no our deluded fans say gerrim aaaht. No wonder players show the same loyalty as the fuck off mentality of our fans.
And yes, we have gained enough points to avoid relegation this year.

As an addendum to my post. I’ve just been chatting to a couple of mates and talk got round to next season. We all agreed that promoted or not we need to strengthen the team. So I will admit that I am a two faced hypocritical twat. Some of the players that got us this far need to be moved on or put out to graze. Bit I will caviat that by saying only the ones that can’t do a job for us next season, and in my twatishness I think Hekky can do a job next year.

 

[GymClassHero]

No one is indebted to anyone we aren’t to hecky and he isn’t too us

There is zero loyalty in football absoloutely zero

If we were 5th and Leicester offered him the job do you reckon he’d say no ?

Your post doesn't make sense pal.

What's loyalty got to do with it? The facts are that he hasn't been made an offer by Leicester so that point is irrelevant, and regardless even if he did take it who could blame him with all he's had to put up with.

When Hecky took over we were lower end of the table, lacking any form of consistency and seemingly going nowhere - if anything relegation was the most likely.

Took us on a fantastic run and managed to sneak us into the playoffs, nobody expected that so it was essentially a free hit. We lost on penalties to the eventual winners.

This season we've spent the majority of it in the automatic places, we've been placed under an embargo so he hasn't been able to sign anyone, whilst all the sides around us strengthen.

Oh and don't forget the very minor fact that he got us to the FA cup SF. You still seem to think the sun shines out of CW's arse, but what did he do when the going got tough? And when has Hecky ever allowed his probable frustration of the shitstorm behind the scenes to spill over in to any of his press conferences? If you ask me he has always spoken with dignity and kept his head held high, even when he was constantly being hounded over the ownership situation - which I doubt he knows fuck all about and is just as much in the dark as us.

So yeah with all that taken into consideration, I'd say we are very much indebted to him.

 

[robbiez666]

I have reservations about Hecky in the PL, said it before, he reminds me of Southgate for England, average manager (so not good or bad, it's decent and OK)

The most successful England manager since we won the world cup?

And I'd love to know how many of our defenders and keepers are actually world class, let alone incredible.

I hear this a lot about Southgate. It's largely the same argument used against Hecky. He's only successful because he has the best squad, and it's bollocks.

 

[Flippity Gibbert]

The most successful England manager since we won the world cup?

And I'd love to know how many of our defenders and keepers are actually world class, let alone incredible.

I hear this a lot about Southgate. It's largely the same argument used against Hecky. He's only successful because he has the best squad, and it's bollocks.

FFS this If you have the best squad the manager does naff all bollocks. Just look a Middlesbrough they’ve been absolutely brilliant all season, and under two different managers.

 

[Alex Cheeseright]

I read the headline and thought he needed the toilet! Slow news day indeed!!

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

When anyone gives an opinion why does it need to be polarised.
There's a "Hecky is great' lets keep him for a few years" gang and then there a small "Hecky is shit gang, get rid" gang.

Simon Jordan was making a point on Talksport last week that they are great Championship managers who just aren't suitable for the PL
and would struggle and he also said that there are excellent managers in the Premier League who would struggle in the Championship.

I have reservations about Hecky in the PL, said it before, he reminds me of Southgate for England, average manager (so not good or bad, it's decent and OK)
with excellent players and is very good with the media regards keeping everything safe/ boring, little emotion and grounded
Wilder was much more passionate but more emotional, when we were winning it was great to see such charisma but when his teams are losing you can see he's suffering
where as Hecky and Southgate answer every question with a straight bat, never optimistic or pessimistic, so calm regardless of the form
In the olden days you'd prefer a Wilder mentality but now with social media, it's sad really but the Hecky/ Southgate approach is much more beneficial

Any reasonable person would realise he's earned his chance so deserved a crack at the top flight.
Think he's done a good job this season but having one of the biggest player budgets, you wouldn't call it a great job.

You can’t reason with people

You are allowed to say hecky is doing a good job with a good squad

And you can say also you don’t think he is good enough for them Prem

You can say it about jack Robinson or Wes but not the manager

 

[Tom Bott]

You are allowed to say hecky is doing a good job with a good squad

So why did you call for him to be sacked only a few weeks ago ?

Fickle field.

 

[Blademan18891889]

The most successful England manager since we won the world cup?

And I'd love to know how many of our defenders and keepers are actually world class, let alone incredible.

I hear this a lot about Southgate. It's largely the same argument used against Hecky. He's only successful because he has the best squad, and it's bollocks.

Failure cannot in any way be classed as successful imo, he's failed as England manager just like every other one apart from sir alf. I think he's a truly dreadful manager who's got unbelievably lucky with the draws in tournaments yet still failed. We played 1 good team (belgium) in Russia and lost twice to them, we played a half decent team (croatia) and failed to beat them too, and we managed to win a penalty shootout to get past Colombia. In the euros in 2021 we beat the worst German team there's ever been, and a half decent team in Denmark then bottled it again in the final against a team who are nowhere near as good on paper, not even remotely. Those 2 tournaments you couldn't handpick easier routes to the finals, I personally don't see that as any success whatsoever. He's in a job for the fact he's the biggest yes man ever for the fa, he says all the correct things and never ever causes any controversy, it's certainly not down to his management. Such a superb attacking squad and he doesn't use it to it's strengths whatsoever. I've never ever known a manager pick his favourite players quite as much as Gareth does despite the other options being so much better. Anyway that's my opinion on Gareth Southgate, my opinion on hecky is that he's done a great job, there's no doubt about that, yes we have a good squad but I think he's got the full potential out of it that's for sure, and if we go up he deserves a shot at it but to be honest I can't see how we're gonna stay up with whoever is in charge with the current squad/contract situation and the financial situation.

 

[Frank the tank]

Failure cannot in any way be classed as successful imo, he's failed as England manager just like every other one apart from sir alf. I think he's a truly dreadful manager who's got unbelievably lucky with the draws in tournaments yet still failed. We played 1 good team (belgium) in Russia and lost twice to them, we played a half decent team (croatia) and failed to beat them too, and we managed to win a penalty shootout to get past Colombia. In the euros in 2021 we beat the worst German team there's ever been, and a half decent team in Denmark then bottled it again in the final against a team who are nowhere near as good on paper, not even remotely. Those 2 tournaments you couldn't handpick easier routes to the finals, I personally don't see that as any success whatsoever. He's in a job for the fact he's the biggest yes man ever for the fa, he says all the correct things and never ever causes any controversy, it's certainly not down to his management. Such a superb attacking squad and he doesn't use it to it's strengths whatsoever. I've never ever known a manager pick his favourite players quite as much as Gareth does despite the other options being so much better. Anyway that's my opinion on Gareth Southgate, my opinion on hecky is that he's done a great job, there's no doubt about that, yes we have a good squad but I think he's got the full potential out of it that's for sure, and if we go up he deserves a shot at it but to be honest I can't see how we're gonna stay up with whoever is in charge with the current squad/contract situation and the financial situation.

 

[Le Cynique]

So why did you call for him to be sacked only a few weeks ago ?

Fickle field.

Click bait

 

[Sheffsteel]

The most successful England manager since we won the world cup?

And I'd love to know how many of our defenders and keepers are actually world class, let alone incredible.

I hear this a lot about Southgate. It's largely the same argument used against Hecky. He's only successful because he has the best squad, and it's bollocks.

The recent England game against Italy away reminded me so much of United under Hecky.

First half, we looked far superior to Italy, we made them look poor, the usual partizan crowd in Naples were quiet with nothing to cheer.
At half time I was impressed by England, we looked like one of the best sides in the world.

Then 2nd half we sat back further and further and basically parked the bus booting it clear straight to their players.
However like United under Hecky, although England were really negative in that 2nd half, it was almost nom stop Italy attack but we defended really well
and didn't really look like conceding, the 2nd half wasn't pretty but it was effective like the old Italian teams.

United have been quite similar this season, in parts of matches we do look a really good team, playing good passing football, deserving to be top 2.
Then we have spells where it's almost kick and rush, we put loads of players back in defence and boot it clear, anywhere up field.
When the games starts going pear shaped for United and England always find it frustrating how Hecky and Southgate delay making substitutions.
I always feel as though pre match both managers have already decided to make the sub changes on the 70th minute instead of what is happening in game.
If the tide turns where we are being dominated or we have a weakness then changes should be made much earlier,

See what you mean though, both Hecky and Southgate have regularly got the results, so no arguments from me, both deserve credit and have my support.

 

[Nick Jansky]

It’s not easy to follow this thread with the local spastic on mute. But seeing the replies, he/she/they isn’t getting any smarter.

Completely unacceptable terminology. Take a look at yourself.

 

[Gin&Juice]

 

[Gin&Juice]

It’s not easy to follow this thread with the local spastic on mute. But seeing the replies, he/she/they isn’t getting any smarter.

Ignore the “local spastic” then.