Has the club accepted relegation?

[SteelCity Blade]

It would appear so at the moment. We've had none of the usual fighting talk and gee'ing up from the manager or players that we normally get following defeat on the Saturday. It's all very quiet and all that seems to be coming out of the club is praise for the supporters and our loyal following.

It looks as if they've all but given up.....at a time when it should be all hands to the pump, one last push! I accepted it two or three weeks back to be honest but it was quite right at the time that Micky said we'll keep fighting, we're not finished yet etc. That seems to have completely disappeared now. Morale must be through the floor!

Does everyone else sense the same feeling of surrender from inside the club? Or is that just me????

 

[broomhillblade]

It's just you.

 

[Bladesman]

I think so and to be honest it seems the club dont really care that much. I get the impression we had surrendered a while a go well before the win against forest and I also think that win was more to do with the players making sure they themselves dont end up in League 1. The 50 pence head lad and the rest of the amazing group of loan players want to remain in the top 2 tiers of football.

 

[JohnDenver]

If they come out with any statement at all they get a slating from someone or other. Not always undeserved. The time for meaningful talk will be in the summer when we've a squad to rebuild and new division to prepare for. Maybe even a new manager to appoint.

I agree - there seems to be a tacit acceptance that this season is over. Hopefully I'm wrong because three wins on the spin is all it takes to change everything.

 

[Oreyt]

It ain't over till the fat la....oh, hang on a minute......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIQQv39dcNE

*Cough*

 

[SteelCity Blade]

It's just you.

That doesnt seem to be the case if you read on.

 

[davidpinder]

It would appear so at the moment. We've had none of the usual fighting talk and gee'ing up from the manager or players that we normally get following defeat on the Saturday. It's all very quiet and all that seems to be coming out of the club is praise for the supporters and our loyal following.

It looks as if they've all but given up.....at a time when it should be all hands to the pump, one last push! I accepted it two or three weeks back to be honest but it was quite right at the time that Micky said we'll keep fighting, we're not finished yet etc. That seems to have completely disappeared now. Morale must be through the floor!

Does everyone else sense the same feeling of surrender from inside the club? Or is that just me????

Maybe we are trying to take the pressure off by not talking about it? Let the papers do the talking then we might relax saturday is our biggest game of the season simply because its at home to scum. We need to win for pride alone and i hope the players are being prepared for that. I think saturday's performance will prove if MA should still be in a job or not.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

I Have!

 

[SteelCity Blade]

If they come out with any statement at all they get a slating from someone or other. Not always undeserved. The time for meaningful talk will be in the summer when we've a squad to rebuild and new division to prepare for. Maybe even a new manager to appoint.

I agree - there seems to be a tacit acceptance that this season is over. Hopefully I'm wrong because three wins on the spin is all it takes to change everything.

That first part is true, however silence can sometimes be more harmful JD. It seems that the manager and players in particular are hiding away and licking their wounds at the moment which is understandable.....perhaps the staff feel a low key week leading up to the Leeds game might take a bit of pressure off. With it being a derby they might feel minimal contact with the media would be more beneficial this week.

Either that or they simply have nothing left to say.

Edit - took the words right off my keyboard dp, snap!

 

[sheffielder]

It would appear so at the moment. We've had none of the usual fighting talk and gee'ing up from the manager or players that we normally get following defeat on the Saturday. It's all very quiet and all that seems to be coming out of the club is praise for the supporters and our loyal following.

It looks as if they've all but given up.....at a time when it should be all hands to the pump, one last push! I accepted it two or three weeks back to be honest but it was quite right at the time that Micky said we'll keep fighting, we're not finished yet etc. That seems to have completely disappeared now. Morale must be through the floor!

Does everyone else sense the same feeling of surrender from inside the club? Or is that just me????

Bit fed up with them talking about it. They need to get on with doing something about it. Probably best they keep their own council and it would certainly be something I would encourage if I was the manager

 

[Ollessendro]

Difficult to say SC.

I doubt they have. It's probably more to do with either:

- they've had the stuffing knocked out of them by losing at Watford (after a glimmer of hope)
- they have nowt to say (my vote). Every Tom, Dick and harry has been out saying we are together, behind the manager and all that shite. We;ve had Monty, Cressy, Morgs, Simmo and others all come out. There's no fucker left. There's now to say either. We've heard everything and most of us are sick of the crap they are spouting out. Plus they have run out of excuses. I am sure they are embarassed by the great support and their own ineptness. Perhaos Micky has told them to let their football do the talking (god help us!)

 

[TheSwollengland]

MA comes across to me as a mardy arsed kid who has lost the plot ,he is misearble and depressing to listen to and if that rubs off on the players as it appears to be doing then I`m not surprised it looks as if the club have called it a day to people on the outside

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

As per the MA thread yesterday, there comes a time when there's no point in trotting out the same thing after a defeat when there really is nothing positive to say and I'm sure behind the scenes they've accepted relegation like the rest of us. Our new Chairman praised the support yesterday which is about the only positive they can find at the moment but the time for 'rallying round' has long gone.

It will be interesting to see if Messrs McCabe and Birch do another post season fans forum.

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MA comes across to me as a mardy arsed kid who has lost the plot ,he is misearble and depressing to listen to and if that rubs off on the players as it appears to be doing then I`m not surprised it looks as if the club have called it a day to people on the outside

I think he sounded totally depressed, dis-heartened, let down and starting to doubt himself, not really mardy-arsed at all.

 

[Eskimo]

All this reminds me of when Bassett joined us. He brought in quite a fewplayers including Wally Downes but we were relegated to Div three after a play off with Bristol City. The match at Watford reminded me of a match that season when Wally was sent off for violent conduct - wasn't it against Leeds???

The point being? Far from not trying - the lads are trying too hard, have been pumped up and are desperate to win but lack real confidence. Desperation breeds frustration. Lack of confidence leads to hesitation then all of a sudden you are one nil down.

Its just not working is it? There is nothing more to be said, that's not accepting defeat, just being realistic. And players who are not performing now may well settle in and do better next year.

 

[Wards]

I'm not sure accepting is the right term. More a case of not having a clue what to do about it seems more appropriate.

 

[Gibbo89]

Think the fact they've let Dirty Leeds have 1,100 extra tickets shows they've given up. When Dirty Leeds asked for more the club should have told them to do one. Obviously think that the extra few grand will come in handy in League 1.

 

[lingsbord]

IMHO the club accepted relegation as a strong possibility some time ago and started to plan for it accordingly. The MA appointment coupled with the desperate attempts to bring back the spirit of the 80s with the involvement of Harry and Corky have clearly backfired, but I don't think "the club" is unduly concerned, upset or disappointed.

TB said a few months ago that sometimes a club has to be relegated to create an opportunity for a clear-out, a re-think, and a re-building exercise. I take that to mean they'd like a lot of the high earners to high-tail it out of BDTBL and relegation will help to achieve it.

The way the reserves and academy lads have been playing, League 1 might be an ideal environment to bring them up to the next level, with full-on first-team experience for the likes of Harriot, Roe, Tonne, McAllister, Conneely and, dare I say it, Slew. If we can buy Lowry and perhaps Mattock and ideally Riise (a 2-division drop though) and also with Morgan back (at his age I think he'll stay as he has the contract and he'll probably move into a coaching role here when he's done) we seem to be building something for the longer term, from the bottom up, especially as the beg, steal or borrow approach has been such a disaster for us.

Micky's a good guy and a solid Blade. When Harry arrived on the scene Micky said it was because he hadn't realised what a big job it was...........what? After Leicester and Forest? I think he realised he was a little out of his depth. I really like him, but his demeanour lately has "defeat" written all over it.

Let him take it on into League 1, but we need to be doing well in that division quickly, or it's Pembo's turn. I don't think he'd be another Speed, because he'd be bringing in players who know and respect him and play his way already.

 

[Kenilworth]

We've had Monty, Cressy, Morgs, Simmo and others all come out.

That might explain the spread of this virus then?
Never thought it of Morgs, though. Shocking

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Micky's a good guy and a solid Blade. When Harry arrived on the scene Micky said it was because he hadn't realised what a big job it was...........what? After Leicester and Forest?

Coventry and Fulham, but not Forest. DB managed Forest.
I could see the Coventry job being much more low key but Leicester might have been on a par. Still, he may have had more staff at Leicester to take the pressure off.

 

[mall]

Let him take it on into League 1, but we need to be doing well in that division quickly, or it's Pembo's turn. I don't think he'd be another Speed, because he'd be bringing in players who know and respect him and play his way already.

No, I don't think it is Pembo's turn.
He has a five year contract to change the club ethos as regards the type of football played and feels comfortable at that level.
The next challenge, and it's a big one, is to merge the two playing styles that the club employs. And, that is the trick...how to do it.
Don't think that Adams will be around to do that since it is alien to his preferred style of high tempo, get the ball wide and into the box, and cause carnage. That is definately not part of Pemberton's remit.....and remember, the youth team is definately the way forward and Pembo has charge of that.

 

[Kenilworth]

That is definately not part of Pemberton's remit.....and remember, the youth team is definately the way forward and Pembo has charge of that.

That's right, Pembo runs the academy to produce players we can sell at the first sniff of any quality.
We are only part of the supply chain - a kind of nursery club for the larger fish

 

[shorehamview]

That's right, Pembo runs the academy to produce players we can sell at the first sniff of any quality.
We are only part of the supply chain - a kind of nursery club for the larger fish

Most clubs are. Read any interview with a young up-and-coming player. The question "Where do you see yourself playing in a few years?" is usually met with answers roughly like this - "At a higher level, either if we get promoted or with a club in a higher division" or if they are already in the Premier League "Playing in the Champion's League and for my country, either with ***** or a bigger club."

Almost all clubs sell their players when they big clubs come calling. It's just a question of when and for how much. If the Academy doesn't lose money and brings good young players through the trend of selling will continue, if we like it or if we don't.

 

[Bladesway]

I think saturday's performance will prove if MA should still be in a job or not.

Well he has had 15 winless games to prepare himself for the 16th so at least it won't hurt so bad.