Hang your head in shame Blades fans

[finlaytheblade]

We have always got behind a tryer history says.!!
It's about time a minority of blades lived up to that statement.Can hardly beleave some of the comments coming out just now.
Its obvious wer'e not good enough Wilder said as much even when we were going well ! " We have to be at our best to get a result at this level.".
We are not at our best far from it ! having said that the players are giving it all they've got.That takes me back to the title.!!
Can you imagine the dressing room after that defeat ! how we didnt score I will never know.
The players showed they are behind Wilder we as a fan base must do the same,I beleave 99% are ! unfortunately the minority have loud voices.
Stick together blades we've been here many times before in Wilder we have one of us! If he felt the blades would be better off without him he would walk tomorrow.
For generations now we have been promoted to the promised land on a number of occasions, ! each time we have come unstuck due to lack of investment culminating in relegation each time.
Yes a team of tryers lacking that bit of nous TC& woody supplied all them years ago ,even then we had a fair number of tryers who were playing above there natural level.
Here we are again blades with a set of tryers lacking that quality needed at the top.
All boils down to owners who dont have the cash to push us to the next level ( historically).
I say it again fellow blades get behind Wilder and the boys,Bassett pulled off a miracle all them years ago can Wilder do the same .

 

[DronnieBlade]

You are confusing bed wetting with frustration over our prospects for the immediate future.

Entirely different !!!

UTB

 

[robbiez666]

You are confusing being unhappy about having the worst start in the history of the Premier League with bedwetting.

Very few calling for Wilder's head. 99.999% of other managers would have been gone by now. I think it's fair to criticise any manager who has lost 12 of 13 games.

 

[Geordie Blade]

I agree with 90% of the OP (particularly the sentiment). The only issue is that I'm not convinced that the effort is there in full. The players are trying, no doubt. But last year, they went to superhuman levels of effort and that extra few percent isn't there this year, which makes all the differences. Perhaps they need the crowds to drive them forward but, if we (the fans) are genuinely that influential to the players, maybe we ought to be deserving of a small proportion of the big wages that the players are receiving.

 

[8lade]

I'm going for a run if I remember when I come back I'll add to the list of things Finlay is getting confused about.

 

[Trafford]

We are behind the team, that’s why were are all so angry and frustrated. You don’t go from a good side to a bad side overnight but it looks like we have and it’s hard to see how it will improve with the quality of the reserves. I’m 56 and should know better, having experienced Division 4, but I still couldn’t get to sleep last night because I was replaying everything that happened in my head.

 

[pommpey]

We have always got behind a tryer history says.!!

And in many cases, we've ended up relegated

It's about time a minority of blades lived up to that statement.Can hardly beleave some of the comments coming out just now.

Such as? It's a bit of a broad brush statement. What comments don't you 'beleave'?

Its obvious wer'e not good enough Wilder said as much even when we were going well ! " We have to be at our best to get a result at this level.".

Okay. That's kinda what everyone is saying. And Wilder's statement is better placed after the Man City or Liverpool game. Not last night's. There is context.

We are not at our best far from it ! having said that the players are giving it all they've got.That takes me back to the title.!!

The players may be giving it all they've got. It's not good enough. Circular argument.

Can you imagine the dressing room after that defeat ! how we didnt score I will never know.

Really? Take a look at Baldock's two misses. McBurnie's. Mousett's. It really shouldn't be tough to figure that it's not really about luck. You have 192 square feet of goal, 60% of it covered by a well positioned goalkeeper. If WBA can ankle-shin it into the corner from 19 yards why can't McBurnie, clear on goal, not show the killer instinct an bottom corner it? Put Ramsdale up against Sergio Aguero, Jamie Vardy, Danny Ings in the same situation (to name but three). Who would you put a tenner on?

The players showed they are behind Wilder we as a fan base must do the same,I beleave 99% are ! unfortunately the minority have loud voices.

I disagree. I think a lot of the fan base are less optimistic and those 'loud voices' you hear are ones who have salient, credible points to make. It sounds to me (again) like you are giving it the 'shut the fuck up' to Wilder's and the team's detractors. If we were winning, do you think our voices would be any less loud?

Stick together blades we've been here many times before in Wilder we have one of us! If he felt the blades would be better off without him he would walk tomorrow.

We are 'together'. But sentiments of 'one of us' is a bit callow. Micky Adams was 'one of us'. So was Neil Warnock. And I doubt Wilder is of the character to 'walk tomorrow' when he has demonstrably done so much for us and the club. He has a mission and we support that. We do however, with the club failing dismally, bottom of the league, one point, four goals and looking nowhere near survival having spent many, many millions on players who are clearly playing in a league way above what their cost suggests and players showing deepening confidence issues in a system he deigns suitable but again, clearly failing, have the right to question what the fuck he thinks he is doing. To benignly stay silent is not being a football supporter. It's being a cabbage.

For generations now we have been promoted to the promised land on a number of occasions, ! each time we have come unstuck due to lack of investment culminating in relegation each time.

Good point. One which unqualifies your above statements.

Yes a team of tryers lacking that bit of nous TC& woody supplied all them years ago ,even then we had a fair number of tryers who were playing above there natural level.

These 'tryers' - a large proportion of them last season weren't just tryers. They were winners. Discuss.

Here we are again blades with a set of tryers lacking that quality needed at the top.

See above

All boils down to owners who dont have the cash to push us to the next level ( historically).

What? Sorry. Just cleaning my glasses on that one. We have spent a sum of money way in advance of anything we have ever spent. Brewster alone is possibly more expensive than all the transfer cash we have ever spent since the seventies. We have spent £31m on two strikers who gave us a meagre 12 goals between them last season, both of whom spent a sizeable amount of time either on the treatment table or warming the bench. Don't tell me we don't have the cash, when we have spunked £8m on two full backs from the basement club in the Championship, one of whom is not showing us much and the other one isn't even making the teamsheet. See also Osborn, Luke Freeman even Callum Robinson, Rodwell, Jagielka and any number of dud acqusitions we have all got fearfully excited about yet the midfield pivot, my mate Oliver Norwood, possibly THE most important position is Wilder's 5-3-2 formation, is sliding down the u-bend of shitness to join Bobby Ford, Mark Patterson, Micheal Doyle and other luminary midfielders in the sewer. And finally, why not break the bank for Dean Henderson? Ramsdale plus the fees for Lowe/Bogle and Brewster would have secured us that rather gifted young man. Rumour is, he's off to Leeds in January if De Gea's resurgence continues. Great stuff.

I say it again fellow blades get behind Wilder and the boys,Bassett pulled off a miracle all them years ago can Wilder do the same .

I can assure you - we are all behind the Blades and Widler. Bassett may have pulled off something of a miracle but as memory serves me correctly, that disn't come about from playing the same team, with the same tactics and disillusioning the players. And yes, we've been here before. We've been relegated down the leagues. Right the way down to div four, in fact.

pommpey

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Firstly - I’m 100% behind wilder and the players. There’s no one else I would like in charge.

but the facts are we have 1 point. Can’t score, can’t keep a clean sheet. The season is gone by November. There’s probably 15+ championship sides who’s have a better return in our place.

wilder says effort and commitment are the minimum. Unfortunately that’s all we are getting - THE MINIMUM. There’s no class, there’s no bollox on the ball, there’s no quality or ability to impact the game. I’m at a loss as to where it’s gone

 

[Davalon]

I don't want Wilder to go but some of these posts feel like they're big Blade posts fishing for likes.

If what is happening to us was happening to another club, many would expect a sacking.

When you've lost 9 of 10 (12 of 13), drawn the other, scored about 3 goals from open play in those 13 games, and spent a lot on fees since January (especially by our standards) it would be crazy not to expect criticism and frustration.

Nothing wrong with wanting to keep Wilder, I do, but expecting little reaction from the fanbase is lunacy tbh.

We've just picked up an unwanted record and if things don't improve notably, we'll be picking up more.

Norwich did far better than this spending about 2 million quid.

We've spent x3 that on a player who doesn't make the bench.

Loyalty isn't ignoring the failings and saying nothing.

 

[robbiez666]

I wish people would stop comparing this to Bassett's time. Bassett bought players from lower and non-league for a pittance. We've spent over a 100 million on our current team. It's not comparable.

 

[Birley Blade]

We’ve spent £100M+ and become a worse squad, how the fuck you manage that one, I don’t know.

We’ve then P10 D1 L9. I don’t know about you but I think that’s fucking horrific and CW and the players should be getting some stick about it.

They earn 10-15X more money than the average bloke per week, I’m not gonna sit here and massage their egos, we pay money to watch them perform, and currently it’s absolutely fucking wank, and until that changes, comments will continue to get worse from most.

 

[Stretch]

Very few want Wilder gone, and I have no idea what the owner thinks, but it's a results business sadly.

Wilder has repeatedly told us to expect his teams to improve and keep moving forward, and has very publically and very ruthlessly called them out on several occasions, when they are doing much better than they are at the moment.

Whilst I think most of us will acknowledge that we have been spectacularly unlucky at times this season, and perhaps could be a few points better off, I do think it is fair for us to question WTF has happened to this team?

 

[Sportbilly /Detroit Blade]

I wish people would stop comparing this to Bassett's time. Bassett bought players from lower and non-league for a pittance. We've spent over a 100 million on our current team. It's not comparable.

Agree with the sentiment, but the days of getting a Tracey for 8k or a Deane for 40k are long gone.

I think most people would agree that the money could perhaps have been better spent (don't recall too many people on here not wanting us to buy McBurnie, Brewster, Ramsdale or Berge though) but the fees are almost irrelevant.

100M is an astronomical amount for this football club, but the reality is our seeming wage limits means we will only buy young and up and coming players (in theory), experienced premier league players aren't joining for 30 to 40k a week.

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

I don't want Wilder to go but some of these posts feel like they're big Blade posts fishing for likes.

If what is happening to us was happening to another club, many would expect a sacking.

When you've lost 9 of 10 (12 of 13), drawn the other, scored about 3 goals from open play in those 13 games, and spent a lot on fees since January (especially by our standards) it would be crazy not to expect criticism and frustration.

Nothing wrong with wanting to keep Wilder, I do, but expecting little reaction from the fanbase is lunacy tbh.

We've just picked up an unwanted record and if things don't improve notably, we'll be picking up more.

Norwich did far better than this spending about 2 million quid.

We've spent x3 that on a player who doesn't make the bench.

Loyalty isn't ignoring the failings and saying nothing.

Agreed - top post. Also, I dont think it makes me less of a blade because I want my team to include better players than 'triers'. The massive frustration for me is we wasted money in the summer on players who aren't even good enough to be classed as 'triers' at this level.

I dont want Wilder to go either, I want him to turn it around, but with each passing week this looks more and more unlikely. And, you are quite right, such a bad run would put pressure on and bring into question any manager, including Klopp, Pep and even Fergie.

 

[Kev Gee]

Yes that's right. It's all our fault.

 

[Chris the Blade]

Can I just say to all the people who constantly call others PIGS who disagree with them....GROW UP. It's moronic. If you can't put together a lucid, thought provoking argument then go back to school

 

[Norville Rogers]

We have always got behind a tryer history says.!!
It's about time a minority of blades lived up to that statement.Can hardly beleave some of the comments coming out just now.
Its obvious wer'e not good enough Wilder said as much even when we were going well ! " We have to be at our best to get a result at this level.".
We are not at our best far from it ! having said that the players are giving it all they've got.That takes me back to the title.!!
Can you imagine the dressing room after that defeat ! how we didnt score I will never know.
The players showed they are behind Wilder we as a fan base must do the same,I beleave 99% are ! unfortunately the minority have loud voices.
Stick together blades we've been here many times before in Wilder we have one of us! If he felt the blades would be better off without him he would walk tomorrow.
For generations now we have been promoted to the promised land on a number of occasions, ! each time we have come unstuck due to lack of investment culminating in relegation each time.
Yes a team of tryers lacking that bit of nous TC& woody supplied all them years ago ,even then we had a fair number of tryers who were playing above there natural level.
Here we are again blades with a set of tryers lacking that quality needed at the top.
All boils down to owners who dont have the cash to push us to the next level ( historically).
I say it again fellow blades get behind Wilder and the boys,Bassett pulled off a miracle all them years ago can Wilder do the same .

i don't care if we go down with one point, worst record ever blah blah. Wilder deserves loyalty. He's already earned it.

 

[petcharlie]

We have always got behind a tryer history says.!!
It's about time a minority of blades lived up to that statement.Can hardly beleave some of the comments coming out just now.
Its obvious wer'e not good enough Wilder said as much even when we were going well ! " We have to be at our best to get a result at this level.".
We are not at our best far from it ! having said that the players are giving it all they've got.That takes me back to the title.!!
Can you imagine the dressing room after that defeat ! how we didnt score I will never know.
The players showed they are behind Wilder we as a fan base must do the same,I beleave 99% are ! unfortunately the minority have loud voices.
Stick together blades we've been here many times before in Wilder we have one of us! If he felt the blades would be better off without him he would walk tomorrow.
For generations now we have been promoted to the promised land on a number of occasions, ! each time we have come unstuck due to lack of investment culminating in relegation each time.
Yes a team of tryers lacking that bit of nous TC& woody supplied all them years ago ,even then we had a fair number of tryers who were playing above there natural level.
Here we are again blades with a set of tryers lacking that quality needed at the top.
All boils down to owners who dont have the cash to push us to the next level ( historically).
I say it again fellow blades get behind Wilder and the boys,Bassett pulled off a miracle all them years ago can Wilder do the same .

Well said mate ,we must remember where we were before Wilder came in.Yes I am so pissed off like every Blade must be and looking for the problem that is stopping us from getting the points we need.The main problem is of course goal scoring we seem to playing really well until we get in their penalty area and then it all goes wrong.Also we do not have Hendo this season and I think he was worth 10 points to us and i am not having a go at Ramsdale it is just that Hendo was so special.The other point i would like to make is this year Wilder has not been able to bring in his main targets like Watkins,Cash,and Robinson mainly because of our wage structure so he has had to revert to his second and third choices which is not ideal.So think very carefully all those who think there is some guy out there that would be better than our Chris working under the same shackles as him that could do a better job.Be careful what you wish for.

 

[Varkanoid]

Whats encouraging is Burke is introduced and created, nearly scored, Brewster nearly scored, Mousset should have scored the signs are encouraging we just need to convert those nearly/should have to goals.

Trouble is its Leicester next.

I just tend to ignore this "Wilder out" nonsense as though there is someone better waiting in the wings.

 

[N.E.Blade]

An inability to face the reality of our situation is part of the problem.
1 point out of 42....... there can be no excuse for what amounts to a complete failure. CW refuses to move on from a system that due to injuries etc is no longer tenable.
I bloody love CW for what he has done with us but I for one won’t give someone a pass based on sentiment. I expect there to be dips, but there are dips and then there are dips. This is the latter.
I hope more than anything he pulls it around but my cut off personally was a minimum of 4 points against West Ham and Baggies.

 

[Pedro Verde]

my cut off personally was a minimum of 4 points against West Ham and Baggies.

Thank fuck youre not the Prince

 

[N.E.Blade]

Thank fuck youre not the Prince

agreed, I wouldn’t do well as a Prince.

Also, if you don’t think that 4 points from Baggies and and West Ham wasn’t achievable then what the fuck are you smoking as in that case we have zero business being in the Prem.

 

[Geordie Blade]

And finally, why not break the bank for Dean Henderson? Ramsdale plus the fees for Lowe/Bogle and Brewster would have secured us that rather gifted young man. Rumour is, he's off to Leeds in January if De Gea's resurgence continues. Great stuff.

We’ll see whether you’re right about Leeds, but surely wages come into this. He’s on £100k per week, which would mean our structure would need to change (increasing the wages for a lot of other players as well).

 

[Varkanoid]

Its true we simply couldnt afford him thats why we had him on loan. Plus he didnt want to stay.

 

[Pedro Verde]

agreed, I wouldn’t do well as a Prince.

Also, if you don’t think that 4 points from Baggies and and West Ham wasn’t achievable then what the fuck are you smoking as in that case we have zero business being in the Prem.

I never said it wasnt achievable. Are you saying that any team that doesnt beat West Brom at The Hawthorns has zero business being in the Premier League ?

I dont smoke and never have

 

[N.E.Blade]

I never said it wasnt achievable. Are you saying that any team that doesnt beat West Brom at The Hawthorns has zero business being in the Premier League ?

I dont smoke and never have

Incorrect. You haven’t understood the context of my reply.
I am saying that we have achieved 1 point out of a potential 42.
For me personally pre the West Ham game, all the previous 0 pints I’ve accepted hoping CW will adapt. And would like us have seen West Ham and Brom as a minimum of 4 points. If we are to remain in the Prem then yes we should be achieving 4 points from those teams. We didn’t.

 

[Mercedes]

We have always got behind a tryer history says.!!
It's about time a minority of blades lived up to that statement.Can hardly beleave some of the comments coming out just now.
Its obvious wer'e not good enough Wilder said as much even when we were going well ! " We have to be at our best to get a result at this level.".
We are not at our best far from it ! having said that the players are giving it all they've got.That takes me back to the title.!!
Can you imagine the dressing room after that defeat ! how we didnt score I will never know.
The players showed they are behind Wilder we as a fan base must do the same,I beleave 99% are ! unfortunately the minority have loud voices.
Stick together blades we've been here many times before in Wilder we have one of us! If he felt the blades would be better off without him he would walk tomorrow.
For generations now we have been promoted to the promised land on a number of occasions, ! each time we have come unstuck due to lack of investment culminating in relegation each time.
Yes a team of tryers lacking that bit of nous TC& woody supplied all them years ago ,even then we had a fair number of tryers who were playing above there natural level.
Here we are again blades with a set of tryers lacking that quality needed at the top.
All boils down to owners who dont have the cash to push us to the next level ( historically).
I say it again fellow blades get behind Wilder and the boys,Bassett pulled off a miracle all them years ago can Wilder do the same .

Mc Burn

 

[Mercedes]

We have always got behind a tryer history says.!!
It's about time a minority of blades lived up to that statement.Can hardly beleave some of the comments coming out just now.
Its obvious wer'e not good enough Wilder said as much even when we were going well ! " We have to be at our best to get a result at this level.".
We are not at our best far from it ! having said that the players are giving it all they've got.That takes me back to the title.!!
Can you imagine the dressing room after that defeat ! how we didnt score I will never know.
The players showed they are behind Wilder we as a fan base must do the same,I beleave 99% are ! unfortunately the minority have loud voices.
Stick together blades we've been here many times before in Wilder we have one of us! If he felt the blades would be better off without him he would walk tomorrow.
For generations now we have been promoted to the promised land on a number of occasions, ! each time we have come unstuck due to lack of investment culminating in relegation each time.
Yes a team of tryers lacking that bit of nous TC& woody supplied all them years ago ,even then we had a fair number of tryers who were playing above there natural level.
Here we are again blades with a set of tryers lacking that quality needed at the top.
All boils down to owners who dont have the cash to push us to the next level ( historically).
I say it again fellow blades get behind Wilder and the boys,Bassett pulled off a miracle all them years ago can Wilder do the same .

McBurnie

We have always got behind a tryer history says.!!
It's about time a minority of blades lived up to that statement.Can hardly beleave some of the comments coming out just now.
Its obvious wer'e not good enough Wilder said as much even when we were going well ! " We have to be at our best to get a result at this level.".
We are not at our best far from it ! having said that the players are giving it all they've got.That takes me back to the title.!!
Can you imagine the dressing room after that defeat ! how we didnt score I will never know.
The players showed they are behind Wilder we as a fan base must do the same,I beleave 99% are ! unfortunately the minority have loud voices.
Stick together blades we've been here many times before in Wilder we have one of us! If he felt the blades would be better off without him he would walk tomorrow.
For generations now we have been promoted to the promised land on a number of occasions, ! each time we have come unstuck due to lack of investment culminating in relegation each time.
Yes a team of tryers lacking that bit of nous TC& woody supplied all them years ago ,even then we had a fair number of tryers who were playing above there natural level.
Here we are again blades with a set of tryers lacking that quality needed at the top.
All boils down to owners who dont have the cash to push us to the next level ( historically).
I say it again fellow blades get behind Wilder and the boys,Bassett pulled off a miracle all them years ago can Wilder do the same .

McBurnie in my opinion is a very brave young man lack of goals means lack of confidence but to his credit he constantly works extremely hard and to miss chances you have to keep getting into the right position it would be a worry if the ball was played and he wosent there he has never shirked his responsibility well done to him eventually it will turn for him and us

 

[pommpey]

McBurnie

McBurnie in my opinion is a very brave young man lack of goals means lack of confidence but to his credit he constantly works extremely hard and to miss chances you have to keep getting into the right position it would be a worry if the ball was played and he wosent there he has never shirked his responsibility well done to him eventually it will turn for him and us

Nice tries!

Back to McB ... McBur ... McBurnie

There's 'bravery', and flinging yoursen at everything making demonstrable efforts yet still lacking the class, and then there's having that composure, single mindedness and killer instinct to eve make half a chance in front of goal a moment when contact is made and the ball flashes past the keeper and the net is bulging. I see much of the former and nothing of the latter with McBurnie. We can all make a great case for having a reyt game and come off covered in sludge yet having touched the ball twice in 90 minutes but in a similar vein, have our kit still clean and been involved in two assists and a goal, simply because you are capable, adroit and have ability. Watching McB last night, regardless of what people say, he's great at getting his melon to a long downfield punt from Ramsdale or being the target man in the box, but unless you are making a firm connection to knock it beyond the keeper's despairing dive or actually finding Breswter, Mousett, Burke with the 'flick ons' (shudder ... Higdon) then you may as well bring the ball down on your chest and pass it to the nearest opposition player. That shit works great in Div One where opposition defences aren't as capable and agile, but in the Premiership, they see it coming a mile off and counter it. Even WBAs iffy central defence was coping with him easily yesterday in the aerial game. And again, he needs to stop the pub football shit, 'mixing it up' with opposition defenders and getting all unsurprised when experienced top level refs give him nothing.

pommpey

 

[Tynemouth Blade]

It's not the fans who should hang their heads, it's the players!