CONFIRMED Hamer joins Coventry

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West Ham are supposedly paying £5 million + plus 2 million add ons for Manor Soloman, who's a couple of years young than Gus.
 



A Poxy 6 Million - City are holding out for 75 million for Rodri. It feels like we are on a par with the likes of Oxford.

Man City are backed by a gulf petrostate. Have infinite resources and Rodri is one of the best players in the world - with zero questions about his form or fitness. And he’s just won the World Cup while being voted as the best player there.

It’s Hardly a reasonable comparison to make is it? We are a million miles closer to Oxford than we are to Man City. They are operating on a different stratosphere to us.

It’s not a great fee - but about the best we could do with 1 year on his contract and no money.
 
We can kick and scream all we want about the fee, unfortunately given the set of circumstances it’s about par for the course.

Aging player
Wants to leave, refusing extension talks
Last year of contract
Sellers need funds
One interested party

We won’t replace with anyone close to his ability, the hope has to be someone that creates a better more balanced 11.
 
Regardless of the fee, I think this is a killer transfer. With Brooks & now Hamer gone, with seemingly no money to adequately replace either of them, I genuinely don’t know where our supply of goals and assists come from. We’re going to lose a lot of games 1-0, teams will draw our sting, score and then I don’t know how we unlock a team. Going to be an absolute disaster, this season. We’ll really do well not to be in another relegation battle. We are weaker in every facet of the team than we were last season and that was wank enough.
Don't know about losing 1-0 I can see a fair few 3-0 and 4-0 defeats.
At least there shouldn't be too much Badge slapping going on, small mercies I guess.
 
also as one of the highest paid players frees up wages

Sheffield United midfielder Gustavo Hamer earns an estimated salary of £30,000 per week , which equates to a fixed gross annual salary of£1,560,000

that pays for 6 5k a week players or 3 10k a week
 
We wanted the game disrupting just like the others. We've weren't interested in winning. We were after a response from the FA as well as trying to put pressure on our owners. If the game had got abandoned you would have got the 3 points and our owners would have got a fine. It would have put it on the back page of the newspapers.

The problem was...and still is....there's supposed to be a fit and proper test. But there's constantly bad owners taking over clubs. The FA turns a blind eye and just continues.

Now you have a bad owner. If he takes you lower you will start to understand. You will see the football community sticks together. If you reach the stage of having to protest you will see that you're not alone.

I understand when you’re desperate you do desperate things, and football fans just want the best for their club. We’ve been there, many times, and even a very good book - Fit and Proper, check it out it’s an excellent read - written about our litany of dubious chairmen.

However what pissed us off about your protest is that it affected the football and almost cost us a very important victory. We had no part to play in your situation, but it almost costs us. At the time it was 1-1 and we were pushing hard for a winner and on top. The break in play was not what we needed at that time, however we did manage to get the winner, but you didn’t give it to us.

Charlton had a similar protest that season. They disrupted the game by throwing tennis balls on the pitch after one minute of play. It got the attention of the wider football world but didn’t affect the result on the pitch.
Doing it with 5 minutes to go could have. Our fans fully supported Charlton with their protest. As I said, we’d been there many times.
 
Bigger picture, I think we will be in the bottom quarter of the division. Simple as.

We have poor to non-existent recruitment, very little creativity, no discernable patterns of play, and a reliance on loans which we know, is pissing what money you do have away.

The only good that can come from this is that we have to blood what youth we have, Oné gets a proper chance and we have to get back to playing clever tactically and developing systems. Because previously we replaced "Give it to N'Diaye" with "Give it to Gus".
 
Have a look. I've been coming on here for a long time. Like to chat about our games with decent people who like the same. Was always made to feel welcome when you were the team going places and we were struggling. That's changed now.

Now I'm just here for any Hamer news. My club doesn't release any information at all these days. We have to get all of our info from elsewhere.

Don't worry. Once the transfer is done you won't hear from me until we play each other again.
That will be a lot sooner than you all think.
 
Sell him. He's 29, in the final year of his contract and he wants to go. If it's £6 million, then so be it.

Losing £45 million annually leaves a big hole. Fortunately Wilder knows how to polish rough diamonds.
Aye especially when it inflates his bank balance every time he fails,
 
We can only guess the details. Nothing will come from our club at all.

Maybe the 6m is the fee after taking into consideration the last payment to be made. Nearly 10m sounds a more fair price. I know he was in his last year of his contract, but he was also in his last year when you bought him.
It's been paid, amortisation is for the books and is different to a payment plan which is what goes off over a contract length
 



I did say you owed us £5m but I've been I've told it's only £3.75m so we got him for £2.25m plus add ons.
Enjoy your derby v Mansfield today.
Don't bother replying iam fucking off now, might pop in at Xmas to say hi.
Good morning Divkid. Enjoy the rest of the school holidays, good luck in year 7 in September.
 
It's been paid, amortisation is for the books and is different to a payment plan which is what goes off over a contract length
All the Coventry fans and seemingly some of our fans seem to have been in the room for the negotiations when we bought him, so they know exactly what’s still owed.

Either that or people just like talking nonsense and believing it to be correct.
 
I did say you owed us £5m but I've been I've told it's only £3.75m so we got him for £2.25m plus add ons.
Enjoy your derby v Mansfield today.
Don't bother replying iam fucking off now, might pop in at Xmas to say hi.
Like I posted before you can’t come in to another teams forum and expected rose petals thrown in front of you
 
Great post but as things stand even I'm pretty pessimistic on this seasons chances of success and I'm generally very positive. Having the strongest three relegated sides for many a year doesn't help neither and selling our best two players to be replaced with loans is hardy inspiring.

We can't just rely on loans and frees every season. The permanent signings last season were mixed last summer too of course.
Cant argue against anyone being pessimistic, its more the complete negative narrative with nothing positive to say.

Hamer going isnt now making us relegation. We will bring people in maybe 1 full signing and loans. I dont think we will make play offs, but we wont be relegated.

Wilder will be a lot different having a full season.
 
Much as I love Gus I think last year he didn't have the heart, probably because of the quality of players we had. Think he will be a different player at Coventry
 
Has anyone thought about it might be mind games being played from wilder with him saying hamer not engaged in contract talks with us .... maybe hinting to him we will sell u if U don't ect ....I have heard so many times he's happy with us ect ...got mates who see him most weeks shopping at Aldi in dronfield and they say he's always happy n chatting with them ....I know press are saying bids rejected ect ...but there maybe a outside chance he signs a new contract???
Or maybe he's just a nice personable guy?
 
Let’s be honest £6m isn’t gonna get us a lot even if we had any intention of replacing him which I highly doubt, these new owners may have the right intentions but clearly don’t have the investment available to them, they need to be looking to sell because before we know it we’ll be in league 1. They’ve been a total disaster so far for the club and they’re own investment.
 
also as one of the highest paid players frees up wages

Sheffield United midfielder Gustavo Hamer earns an estimated salary of £30,000 per week , which equates to a fixed gross annual salary of£1,560,000

that pays for 6 5k a week players or 3 10k a week

But it’s not the year 2000 anymore.

The average championship wage is now 14/15,000.

Selling one of the best players in the league frees up the wages for two bang average ones. We are not getting 6 passable championship players in his place.
 
Is literally what I've said?
Brooks - sold - replaced by Donovan (not ours)
Hamer - sold - replaced by BBD (likely on loan).

As per Danny Hall's article, the funds generated from those sales are covering the shortfall....
That's called balancing the books, not asset stripping.
 
Much as I love Gus I think last year he didn't have the heart, probably because of the quality of players we had. Think he will be a different player at Coventry

We actually had a better win percentage in games he didn't start last season.

He can turn a game on its head in the blink of an eye, but we didn't miss him last season like people are making out.

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I think it’ll go some way into bridging the gap in finances atm with Gus going and the final payments of his wages and transfer fee owed we are £5+ million better off based on figures thrown around £30k wages and £3.75 left over of fee ( I appreciate there’s far more debt)
 
Let’s be honest £6m isn’t gonna get us a lot even if we had any intention of replacing him which I highly doubt, these new owners may have the right intentions but clearly don’t have the investment available to them, they need to be looking to sell because before we know it we’ll be in league 1. They’ve been a total disaster so far for the club and they’re own investment.
Total disaster ?

Really 🤔

They supported Wilder in their first year - Wilder et al brought in some good players , Cooper , O’Hare , Kiefer , Burrows etc - the board backed Wilder in their Jan window , he signed Cannon for 8/10 million , hardly the boards fault .

The team and manager blew it there after - again ,hardly the boards fault .

There was a real upswell of Wilder out following the playoff final - the board decided to change direction - appointed Selles and spent circa 15/20 million on dross - they can be fully blamed for that fiasco .

They reappointed Wilder , backed him in their Jan transfer window and the team fell way short . Poor signings again - boards fault ?

Now we have no parachute payments , tighter financial controls exist , money not available in quantities that were .

We are at a crossroads- August isnt finished yet - but I don’t blame the board for everything
 



Having ruminated on this for a while it’s in line with my expectations.



I reckon we’ve still got a £5m shortfall. Selling Peck for £10-15m is the key as that gives is the funds to reinvest.
Interest in Peck from PL clubs will be less than if he hadn’t got a drink driving conviction. It will have put a question mark against him.
 

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