CONFIRMED Hamer joins Coventry

[Edgar Allan Poo]

Arguably Gus has peaked with us and we had the best of him. If he doesn't want to stay and we get a get a few bob for him then he can go with our thanks.

 

[Valley Blade]

We could and in some cases, should have made substantially more.

As Bladesman outlined, making a call sooner would help the club plan to properly replace and give the club leverage to sell at a higher price. We have very limited negotiating power in the final year which is why they all leave for relatively smaller amounts.

I get we can’t win them all, but that’s a pretty harrowing list of failures over the last 3 years.

On your list, 2 players have left for less, than we bought them for. Hardly a harrowing list of failures is it. It will probably be less or very similar to all the other clubs. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous and just another stick to beat the club with.

 

[bertieblade]

Arguably Gus has peaked with us and we had the best of him. If he doesn't want to stay and we get a get a few bob for him then he can go with our thanks.

Think the bulk of supporters, the owners and the management team are all in agreement it’s just a case of negotiating the best price or possibly even swapping him for one of their players in a similar position

 

[LBA_Blade]

Totally agree, but people say sell him now.
We could sell him now if we give him away we are trying to negotiate a decent fee and that takes time.
For all we know Coventry have offered £2m and we are weighing up whether we accept or sit tight in the hope they increase their offer

That's very true, downside to football journalism is there is never any meat on the bones to what has happened. Say it was £2mill, plus circa £30,000 a week off the wage budget (again rumoured) it depends on if we have the go ahead from the board to spend that by bringing in a CB. There are still plenty of freebies to be picked up and with getting rid of Nwachukwu, that frees up a spot for someone slightly different in the market. plus that region of cash could do us well if it was invested right (big if), there were mentions of lets have a punt on Abdul Abdulmalik from Boreham Wood, that could be something I could get behind too.

 

[S64 Blade]

On your list, 2 players have left for less, than we bought them for. Hardly a harrowing list of failures is it. It will probably be less or very similar to all the other clubs. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous and just another stick to beat the club with.

No it isn’t.

You’re missing the point entirely about them being sold for far less than we could have otherwise got if they’d not had 1 year left on their deal.

Over the last few years we are consistently under selling key players and replacing them with inferior players.

The trend is evident in our plight on the field.

Next summer may be even more interesting with all the following having their deals up in 2028.

Peck
Burrows
Cooper
Arblaster
O’Hare
Tanganga

 

[Bladesman]

No it isn’t.

You’re missing the point entirely about them being sold for far less than we could have otherwise got if they’d not had 1 year left on their deal.

Over the last few years we are consistently under selling key players and replacing them with inferior players.

The trend is evident in our plight on the field.

Next summer may be even more interesting with all the following having their deals up in 2028.

Peck
Burrows
Cooper
Arblaster
O’Hare
Tanganga

Sell now!

 

[Valley Blade]

No it isn’t.

You’re missing the point entirely about them being sold for far less than we could have otherwise got if they’d not had 1 year left on their deal.

Over the last few years we are consistently under selling key players and replacing them with inferior players.

The trend is evident in our plight on the field.

Next summer may be even more interesting with all the following having their deals up in 2028.

Peck
Burrows
Cooper
Arblaster
O’Hare
Tanganga

I understand all that. However, how can you physically make someone sign a contract they don't want to? You seem to be implying United are so badly run that they don't even try. I would find that to be highly unlikely and almost laughable.

 

[Wards]

football team that apart from a cup win in 87 has never done anything,

With all due respect, that’s a fuck ton more than us in the last 100 years

 

[Blades1971]

£8 Million plus Simms. Get it done.

 

[bertieblade]

£8 Million plus Simms. Get it done.

Where did you pluck those figures from?

 

[TJ blade]

Because, despite all evidence to the opposite, Wilder sees himself as a top tier manager and has become obsessed with big names like Phillips & Souttar. He’d see players like Cleary as beneath him.

Wilder's no were near a top tier manager, this is possibly his last job at this level!

 

[Champagneblade]

Thanks for Gus Back, done you over a barrel aswell with the fee.
Enjoy Bolton away.

It will be interesting where he plays for you.

Wilder still found a position where he got more goals and assist combined than he did at Coventry and in fewer matches.

He scored 18 goals and 25 assists in the league for us (inc PL) and 17 goals and 25 assists (Champ only) for Cov.

In fact he contributed a Goal or assist every 194 mins for us overall and 174 mins if you look at just the Championship whereas it was 229 mins with Coventry.

He’s done well for us. Better than he did with his prior club. It will be interesting if he is as effective second time around in the top flight.

 

[Green7361]

I thought he and Phillips had signed last week

 

[Sportbilly /Detroit Blade]

Times must be tough he didn't buy one for his wife and kids too. I'd be worried.

He did, but that fatty ate them whilst waiting for his to be served!

 

[Sportbilly /Detroit Blade]

And hundreds and thousands.

Reminded me of this!

 

[BangorBlade]

How much do we sell him for?

8 - 10m chum

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

8 - 10m chum

I think it will be 5/6m unfortunately. Bargain for Coventry

 

[Bladey_blade]

If and when it happens Hamer wouldn't be 1st choice in midfield. We've just spent nearly 50m on 2 midfielders. 1 of them is getting announced any minute. His best position is CM/AM. It's our strongest position.

I'm not saying he isn't good enough. He would have to wait for his chance and earn a starting position.

Just imagine that belly if he isn't starting every week, ouch

 

[bertieblade]

8 - 10m chum

What if they only offer £3m

 

[Cheeky Blade]

Undisclosed.

 

[WeareBlades]

Are we the only club who hang on to a player, let them be part of the team all preseason, sell them (most of the time cheaply) right before the season starts. I honestly don’t get it - if it’s just to get a couple of million more surely that doesn’t outweigh having a season of mediocrity.

 

[Captain Obvious]

what teams did we play against?

Hes unfit yes i agree, but he has always been a bit agressive. Thats what gives him that edge. He has a bit of fight in him!

Yeah great shout! lets get a winger on loan from a premier league team to develop him and then he goes back at the end of the season. Pay his wages and we get no returns whatsoever!

As in the premiership season 23/24? Anel Ahmedhodžić? Vinícius Souza? If we didn't have Hamer, we would have been a laughingstock and finished bottom rivaling derby for their points total

As I've said before deluded pal.

I’m not sure what being unfit has got to do with being aggressive…but the reason he gets booked isn’t because he’s aggressive, it’s because he’s unfit and undisciplined. He gives away lazy, cynical fouls because he’s not fit enough to track back after he’s lost the ball.

Getting loans is standard procedure for a Championship club, I’d personally rather get a quality loan from a Premier league club than gamble with permanents that ultimately don’t work out. Look at all the deadwood we’re stuck with at the moment.

I’ve posted our league record from last season from when Hamer started and when he didn’t. TLDR version - we had a better win/loss ratio when he didn’t start. If stats are anything to go by, we’ll be better off without him…and have more money to utilise in fees/wages for players who want to be here.

 

[MosboroughBlade]

With all due respect, that’s a fuck ton more than us in the last 100 years

That's all though. Horrible club, horrible city just non descript.

 

[ancientblade]

£8 Million plus Simms. Get it done.

we wont get that much but i would take 5m plus simms and with that cash get souttar

 

[Fernandopartridge]

I'm not a huge Wilder fan these days, but I don't think he threw Hamer under the bus at all.

Admitting the player would like to go back to his former club, where he's loved, will earn more and play at a higher level, isn't groundbreaking news to anybody.
A bit of honesty with the fan base is fairly welcome and rare in modern football.

I took it as a protective move on behalf of Hamer really, ie it isn't greed he's just got various feelings like any player

 

[Wards]

Simms probably has the same book value as Hamer, if not more. We aren’t getting cash plus Simms.

 

[Bladesman]

Simms probably has the same book value as Hamer, if not more. We aren’t getting cash plus Simms.

How much culture does Simms carry? it best be a lot of culture.

 

[ancientblade]

The offer accepted was 15m with a sell on clause of 15%. There's one last payment due soon of 3.75m.

wipe that off and add 5m

 

[calcalcal]

we wont get that much but i would take 5m plus simms and with that cash get souttar

Club too hopeless to think about that
But in any case 2m and simms is more realistic

 

[Stevo71]

Thanks for Gus Back, done you over a barrel aswell with the fee.
Enjoy Bolton away.

I remember when i had mi first w@nk