CONFIRMED Hamer joins Coventry

[Nedski]

He's our most gifted player but at the moment he doesn't fit in. Who do you leave out for him and what is his best position.
He came on last night and looked lost wide left. He did a couple of cameo runs, cutting inside and getting a shot off but overall was ineffective.
To be honest i'm flummoxed as to where he plays.

The match was over by the time he came on so it's bit unfair to say he was ineffective when the intensity had substantially dropped.

Id love to see him given a go in the Duffy role. It's something we've not had since Duffy fell out with wilder. It's maybe worth experimenting in the Mansfield game?

Davies
Bindon McGuiness Zatterstrom
Seriki Soumare Arblaster Burrows
Hamer
Campbell Cannon

Anyway, we'd be crazy to let him go in the window unless he genuinely wants to leave and we receive a crazy offer. He's our most talented player by a mile and is (usually) so good to watch.

 

[KMC-1889]

Matches where Hamer has started:
P12 W3 D0 L9
(win ratio 25%)

Matches where Hamer didn't start:
P14 W7 D2 L5
(win ratio 50%)

Last season we were a poor team with no system that needed moments of magic which Hamer could provide.

This season we’re a much better all round team and aren’t as reliant on individual brilliance.

He absolutely stunk the place out yesterday. Go watch the third goal and see him, Burrows and Campbell fuck about with before it comes across to Arblaster, Chong & Seriki who just go direct and score.

 

[Gavlar]

It's an interesting one. If he doesn't play from the start I suspect he will leave. He is still a great player, but we seem a better all round team with him on the bench strangely.

 

[SwitchBLADE Smiles]

For me, Hamer doesn’t currently fit perfectly in our plan A. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be looking to get him in the side as much as possible though.

Some on here (myself included) have moaned about a lack of plan B when things aren’t going well. That particular blueprint should revolve around Gus IMO. He is without doubt the most talented player we have and we should be looking at ways to get the most out of him when he’s available and on the pitch. For me, that should be in the number 10 role.

 

[Uganda Blade]

Matches where Hamer has started:
P12 W3 D0 L9
(win ratio 25%)

Matches where Hamer didn't start:
P14 W7 D2 L5
(win ratio 50%)

I was hoping someone would do this analysis. Thanks!

 

[mattbianco1]

He absolutely stunk the place out yesterday. Go watch the third goal and see him, Burrows and Campbell fuck about with before it comes across to Arblaster, Chong & Seriki who just go direct and score.

Bit harsh on him there. It was Hamer that started the switch back across to the right. I've timestamped the moment below.

 

[Cappy]

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Want at least 10m

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Want at least 10m

I don't think we'll get it. 18 months to go, unfit, unmotivated.
£6m feels pretty silly though. Would hope for £8m+

 

[Weasel]

Seems like his agent is busy.

Bottom line, do we think he is going to sign an extension (unlikely as he just doesnt look particularly happy at the Lane atm)? If we do then great, he can still be a big asset for us. If not, then maybe it's time to try and instigate a bidding war and take what's on the table and use the funds to reshape the squad for the longer term. I like him, but he's far from indispensable to our team.

 

[LBA_Blade]

To be fair, given the fact that the summer transfer window was potentially about "personal reasons" for him looking for a move to the Netherlands, it does seem strange without trying to set-up a new joke that a Turkish, Spanish and Italian club are interested in a move. Not quite sure why he would go to any of those 3 unless big wages. He would upset the balance of wages at Cremonese, Trabzonspor and Seville. Reportly on £30K a week here plus bonuses and then the clubs would have to agree an inflated January transfer fee. Those 3 clubs are a bit bizarre, I could understand if there was at least one Dutch in there and maybe, a potential for promotion Championship club too.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Let him go providing we can replace. The best I’ve seen him was last season but he still struggled with his fitness & I’m not sure what his best position is.

I don’t think he’d be a Wilder type of signing (I’m not suggesting that’s a bad thing) & seemed a bit of a panic signing when we sold N’Diaye. I’ve loved watching him though & he’s got a belter of a goal in him.

 

[Brian Deane]

We've played better without shoehorning him in the team.
Will he be providing his own transport overseas the inflatable ring around his waist should keep him afloat.

 

[Blademan89]

We've played better without shoehorning him in the team.
Will he be providing his own transport overseas the inflatable ring around his waist should keep him afloat.

The same people who say footballers are fat are generally same people who look like this.

Ridiculous comment saying hes fat. Most people wish they were same body % fat as him.

 

[Brian Deane]

The same people who say footballers are fat are generally same people who look like this.

Ridiculous comment saying hes fat. Most people wish they were same body % fat as him.

I did not say Hamer was fat. He's carrying a bit of weight and has been for the last year or so. For a professional Athelete supposedly at the peak of his career it's no wonder he's struggling this season.
For the record, your assumption of others couldn't be any further from the truth.

 

[MayorOJC]

Imagine being a journalist and seriously saying the Championship player of the year could be available for £6m

 

[bartman]

Imagine being a journalist and seriously saying the Championship player of the year could be available for £6m

How much do you think he us worth based on this season's performances, fitness levels and that,at the moment, he is probably not in our first choice 11 if everyone is fit

 

[Roygbiv]

I can see us taking a lowish fee just to free up wages. Can probably get 2 decent players for the wages he's on who will actually make the first team. We can't afford him if he's not going to be our best player and he can't even get in the team at the moment. I think £8m is the absolute most we'll hold out for but I can see it being lower

 

[SouthportBlade]

Imagine being a journalist and seriously saying the Championship player of the year could be available for £6m

Come on, we all know that ability is only one part of a players worth. Othe

Age
Resale value
Wages
Potential to improve
Contract left
Desire to stay
League position of selling and buying clubs
Financial situation of selling and buying clubs

So whilst 6m is perhaps a touch low, I’m not sure it’s preposterous or wildly out of whack.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

The fee out doesn't particularly matter if we replace him well or improve the squad for less

6 million is a little light

If only he was

 

[Blademan89]

I did not say Hamer was fat. He's carrying a bit of weight and has been for the last year or so. For a professional Athelete supposedly at the peak of his career it's no wonder he's struggling this season.
For the record, your assumption of others couldn't be any further from the truth.

Beacuse hes a professional athletes doesnt mean he shouldnhave a 6 pac, not many people do, he has the same body type as sharp, who again isnt fat. When you see these people up close in person you actually realise yeah they're not actually fat, or carrying a ring or extra weight. If he was or any of the squad im sure they'd be getting fined.

His body fat % will be 10 or under and again not many people will be anywhere close to that.

You may not be as said picture and I may have over exaggerates it, but it was more of a generalisation, rather than singling you out and saying that. I wouldnt be able to as I've never seen you lol.

 

[bartman]

The fee out doesn't particularly matter if we replace him well or improve the squad for less

6 million is a little light

If only he was

And if he is the highest wage earner, we may need to sell in preparation for next season's lack of parachute payments

 

[Davalon]

Our performances picked up when he was injured.

His all round performances since have been a bit disappointing but he still possesses that bit of magic that most others in the squad don't (see Sunday).

I'm always willing to cut players some slack who have personal stuff going off. The reaction of many to Godfrey because of his earnings stinks imho.

If Gus wants to go then I'd like a bit more but £6 mill as a fee and presumably significant wages could be used very well. Emphasis on could.

 

[ancientblade]

im sure we will sell but we certainly dont need to give him away i would put a 12m price tag on him even if we know we wont get it if we can get 8m minimum and 30k a week off the wage bill i think it will be a decent deal for the club

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Beacuse hes a professional athletes doesnt mean he shouldnhave a 6 pac, not many people do, he has the same body type as sharp, who again isnt fat. When you see these people up close in person you actually realise yeah they're not actually fat, or carrying a ring or extra weight. If he was or any of the squad im sure they'd be getting fined.

His body fat % will be 10 or under and again not many people will be anywhere close to that.

You may not be as said picture and I may have over exaggerates it, but it was more of a generalisation, rather than singling you out and saying that. I wouldnt be able to as I've never seen you lol.

My complaints about his physical build isn't he's fat. It's that he's not got a big engine like a coh, strong, fast or tall. When he plays regularly there's always a spell where he goes down "feeling something" and that's his general lack of fitness coming into play

 

[SUFCScorecard]

Come on, we all know that ability is only one part of a players worth. Othe

Age
Resale value
Wages
Potential to improve
Contract left
Desire to stay
League position of selling and buying clubs
Financial situation of selling and buying clubs

So whilst 6m is perhaps a touch low, I’m not sure it’s preposterous or wildly out of whack.

I think your correct - especially as clubs will see he hasn't been in the team, its certainly worth testing us at that price. I can see us letting him go for 8m so long as Wilder has the opportunity to go out and get a LW. He might like that for balance anyway with O'Hare doing a good job as the roving creative off the left. Wilder isn't afraid to sell a big player to fund investment in the squad which he think will make the team better.

With that said. I would keep him and let him run down the contract for that price. 18months of Hamer seems worth the money to me (easy to say when its not my money!). Especially, as at the end of that period we are likely to be competing for promotion (if we don't pull off a miracle this season), and if we go up surely he would extend, and even if we don't he'll be 30 and we may be his best option.

 

[Booker4]

I'd say we'd be lucky to get anything above £8m based on current performance and his age. I think if we can get around £8m I'd sell and buy it loan and out an out left wing replacement. Like Tom Watson from Brighton. Haner isn't a winger but does a job out there but he doesn't look the same player as last season.

 

[MayorOJC]

How much do you think he us worth based on this season's performances, fitness levels and that,at the moment, he is probably not in our first choice 11 if everyone is fit

We play him out of position. He's a box to box midfielder that gets thrown on to the left wing. Is he worth less than Nathan Broadbent, Kyogo Furuhashi, Finn Azaz... £14m less than Mads Hermansson?? We need we to sell our players at 2026 prices, because whoever we buy his replacement from sure will.

 

[raul]

Are any of the clubs mentioned closer to his family whom we understand , and accept as a reason to leave without a quibble ( I do anyway ), though??

I've thought a parting of the ways inevitable all season, but if he isn't going " home " business becomes business.

 

[KMC-1889]

We play him out of position. He's a box to box midfielder that gets thrown on to the left wing. Is he worth less than Nathan Broadbent, Kyogo Furuhashi, Finn Azaz... £14m less than Mads Hermansson?? We need we to sell our players at 2026 prices, because whoever we buy his replacement from sure will.

What’s the point in having a box to box midfielder that can’t run box to box for 90 minutes and has no positional discipline?

Crowbarring him on the left last season looks to have spoiled him. We took an aggressive, creative midfielder and turned him into a luxury show pony.

And he totally got away with any criticism for that throw in against Mansfield the shithouse.