Gustavo Hamer

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LurkerBlade said:
Watching his training videos in the OFF season (wearing his united training gear) he does seem to take his fitness very seriously.

Wilder did say on many occasions that we had some players that were carrying injuries and niggles.

He seemed to manage 90mins earlier in the season, could he have been carrying a slight injury?
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I know there's loads of talk in this thread about his inability to last 90 minutes but, in the games he started, he finished the season with:

Coventry 90 mins
Oxford 90 mins
Millwall 90 mins
Plymouth 90 mins
Cardiff 85 mins
Burnley 90 mins
Blackburn 60 mins (and I assume that was a pre-planned substitution with the play-offs coming up)

And then in the play-off semis, he played 85 minutes in the 1st leg and 72 in the 2nd leg (before being subbed when 5-0 up).

Only 3 of our outfield players played more minutes than he did across the season.
 
HeCanDoMagic said:
Having a meal and buying other people drinks hey 😭
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Yeah because if you actually want success then you want your players putting away 2 bottles of wine the night before the game or getting shitfaced on shots with fans during the season.

You clearly think it's the 80s but you can take home £1 million a year having a nice time.
 
robbiez666 said:
Yeah because if you actually want success then you want your players putting away 2 bottles of wine the night before the game or getting shitfaced on shots with fans during the season.

You clearly think it's the 80s but you can take home £1 million a year having a nice time.
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So it's gone from having a meal, to downing 2 bottles of wine before a game 🤣
From buying fans shots, to getting shit faced with them 🤣
Yeah , alright 👍 🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
robbiez666 said:
Yeah because if you actually want success then you want your players putting away 2 bottles of wine the night before the game or getting shitfaced on shots with fans during the season.

You clearly think it's the 80s but you can take home £1 million a year having a nice time.
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You know that footballers, even the top level can still perform and have alcohol occasionally.
 
SwissBlade said:
You know that footballers, even the top level can still perform and have alcohol occasionally.
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Do you know that athletes can't fully recover if they have alcohol in their system,?

It's 2025, our fans want our players to be allowed to go out drinking and then also expect our team to be established in the Premier League.

Professional athletes should not be drinking during the time they're 'competing. Full stop.

Or should we pay players more per week than many earn in a year and yet allow them to take the piss?
 
Gannon's perm said:
So it's gone from having a meal, to downing 2 bottles of wine before a game 🤣
From buying fans shots, to getting shit faced with them 🤣
Yeah , alright 👍 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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HeCanDoMagic said:
Crackers isn't it.

His first post literally said; man buys drink for other people. Man eats meal.
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So you're both happy in the Championship then?

Do you think players in the top flight regularly drink?

Do you think Brighton, Fulham, Brentford or Forest got promoted with their player drinking and eating unhealthily?

Or do you think it's the 1980s?

Our fans are too stupid to understand modern football.

Fans like you two shouldn't be allowed to moan about the teams performance because you're happy with them not looking after their bodies.
 
robbiez666 said:
So you're both happy in the Championship then?

Do you think players in the top flight regularly drink?

Or do you think it's the 1980s?

Our fans are too stupid to understand modern football.

Fans like you two shouldn't be allowed to moan about the teams performance because you're happy with them not looking after their bodies.
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🤣🤣 what have you had for your tea pal?!

Like the ramblings of a mad man.
 
HeCanDoMagic said:
I'm only responding because I'm finding this funny. Please say something else. Dare you.
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He's not assisted or scored a goal in the final quarter of any game this season. If he took his fitness seriously and played fully for 90 minutes we'd be in the Premier League.

But you don't care, do you, as long as our players can have a drink?
 
robbiez666 said:
He's not assisted or scored a goal in the final quarter of any game this season. If he took his fitness seriously and played fully for 90 minutes we'd be in the Premier League.

But you don't care, do you, as long as our players can have a drink?
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I don't care about anything other than your meltdown at the fact I questioned your original post.

Following which you have somehow pigeon holed me as a chubby loving pub team supporter with zero ambition.

You sir, are a fucking loon. 🤣
 
HeCanDoMagic said:
I don't care about anything other than your meltdown at the fact I questioned your original post.

Following which you have somehow pigeon holed me as a chubby loving pub team supporter with zero ambition.

You sir, are a fucking loon. 🤣
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You might want to look in a mirror given I've done none of that yet you seem to have made up that I have.

Straightjacket time.
 

robbiez666 said:
Do you know that athletes can't fully recover if they have alcohol in their system,?

It's 2025, our fans want our players to be allowed to go out drinking and then also expect our team to be established in the Premier League.

Professional athletes should not be drinking during the time they're 'competing. Full stop.

Or should we pay players more per week than many earn in a year and yet allow them to take the piss?
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Yes I’m fully aware of the affects of alcohol on training and also there are the benefits. The moderation and timing is key.

Professional athletes are adults and have far more testing and checks than normal individuals, they will be fully aware, as will the medical team on the impact of alcohol. It’s about managing the individual and their recovery.

There are other impactful choices which will affect a players recovery. Heavy weight sessions seem to be the norm, especially with a number of our players. This will certainly impact their readiness for matches. A meat free diet will also have a major impact on the recovery from both games and injury.

What is the defined period of “competing”? How are players training to reach their peak through the season? It’s not possible to be physically at the peak all season. Mentally too.
 
robbiez666 said:
Do you think players in the top flight regularly drink?
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Some do, some don't. You needn't look further than the Tottenham players on the victory bus after they won a trophy. Bentancur, Romero, Johnson, and Maddison, at the very least, all looked extremely drunk. And they had a game a couple of days after that! Football players are like normal people; sometimes they like drinking in celebratory or social situations. Nothing wrong with that. I imagine Gus was buying shots for some fans after a victory.
 
Blade45 said:
Some do, some don't. You needn't look further than the Tottenham players on the victory bus after they won a trophy. Bentancur, Romero, Johnson, and Maddison, at the very least, all looked extremely drunk. And they had a game a couple of days after that! Football players are like normal people; sometimes they like drinking in celebratory or social situations. Nothing wrong with that. I imagine Gus was buying shots for some fans after a victory.
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After they won a trophy at the end of the season? I have zero issue with a footballer having a few drinks in summer or getting shitfaced if they've achieved something.

Bit different from drinking during the season?
 
SwissBlade said:
Yes I’m fully aware of the affects of alcohol on training and also there are the benefits. The moderation and timing is key.

Professional athletes are adults and have far more testing and checks than normal individuals, they will be fully aware, as will the medical team on the impact of alcohol. It’s about managing the individual and their recovery.

There are other impactful choices which will affect a players recovery. Heavy weight sessions seem to be the norm, especially with a number of our players. This will certainly impact their readiness for matches. A meat free diet will also have a major impact on the recovery from both games and injury.

What is the defined period of “competing”? How are players training to reach their peak through the season? It’s not possible to be physically at the peak all season. Mentally too.
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I'm really not understanding your argument. Drinking alcohol makes recovery slower. It impacts on conditioning.

But you're arguing for it?

I'm literally saying that if a professional footballer doesn't drink he or she will be physically better than if they did.
 
Once again, Gus Hamer has not scored or assisted after 60 minutes of any game this season.

Why do you think that is? Is it because he's unfit?

I would make an educated guess that if he took the best care of himself possible he would be running around for 95+ minutes and having an impact on games.

We'd have got promoted. But it seems some think that it's more important for him to be able to go out drinking and eating unhealthily then Sheffield United getting promoted.

And don't get me wrong, he's probably our second most important player this season, but he could be so much better.
 
robbiez666 said:
After they won a trophy at the end of the season? I have zero issue with a footballer having a few drinks in summer or getting shitfaced if they've achieved something.

Bit different from drinking during the season?
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Tottenham had a couple of games left. They had won the Europa League, but they still had a few matches to go in the Premier League, so their season wasn't 'over', no matter if some players had checked out.

I don't know the exact date when Gus was drinking. There are some health benefits to drinking things like wine, so alcohol isn't all bad. I don't think you should be drinking night in, night out during the season, but I don't see the issue with letting players relax a little bit every so often. I doubt Gus is out drinking every single day, so I don't see the problem with him having some alcohol every so often.
 
robbiez666 said:
I'm really not understanding your argument. Drinking alcohol makes recovery slower. It impacts on conditioning.

But you're arguing for it?

I'm literally saying that if a professional footballer doesn't drink he or she will be physically better than if they did.
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The point is that the positives and negatives of alcohol are clear. It’s not an argument.

But as I said, timing, moderation, type of alcohol will all be managed by the player and the clubs medical staff.

However, there are a lot of other variables that can also impact recovery which will also be individual to each player but can have as much or more of an impact on the individual.

A player that doesn’t drink but is also vegan will most certainly have to manage their recovery more, will either have to supplement their diet or they will accept that their recovery will be longer. I’ve seen if in triathlon.

Affecting recovery time is also very different to affecting performance. I’ve trained in the alps on training camps, done it some years with booze, some with no booze at nights. My performance each day was better when I was boozing at night (approx 5 pints per night, mix of lager or wine equivalent). The HR stats were higher, but effort and times were also higher. Again, positives and negatives of alcohol are clear. So I guess you understand that.

I’m not arguing, I’m filling some gaps which seem apparent and also asking some questions on the terminology used, which you didn’t clarify, but that’s ok.

I will dispute the statement that Hamer doesn’t contribute to late goals because he drinks alcohol or he would be a premier league player if he didn’t drink. That’s clearly impossible to measure and certainly needs a little more than baseless speculation because he drinks wine and buys shots. There are players at the top level that drink and drink regularly.
 
robbiez666 said:
I would make an educated guess that if he took the best care of himself possible he would be running around for 95+ minutes and having an impact on games.
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It’s not an educated guess. You don’t know the full details of Hamer or the other players. It’s baseless speculation.
 
robbiez666 said:
Do you know that athletes can't fully recover if they have alcohol in their system,?

It's 2025, our fans want our players to be allowed to go out drinking and then also expect our team to be established in the Premier League.

Professional athletes should not be drinking during the time they're 'competing. Full stop.

Or should we pay players more per week than many earn in a year and yet allow them to take the piss?
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Agree. For the money they earn they can live the high life after their career is over in a short few years.
They’re still young enough to live a life only a few can afford and drink as much as they want.
Compare Lineker to Gaza, bother great talents, one’s career still going other makes money from documentaries on his lifestyle choices if anyone will listen to him.
Ched, an innocent idiot. If he’d stayed home with the girlfriend that night…..?
 
I’m resigned to him leaving now, but my only hope is that he doesn’t go to Leeds.
 

Just reading the posts regarding alcohol and lifestyle.................. well, I know I'm a dinosaur but I loved the old days.

Georgie Best springs to mind, here's a few of his one liners -

"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered."
"In 1969 I gave up women and alcohol - it was the worst 20 minutes of my life."
"I used to go missing a lot... Miss Canada, Miss United Kingdom, Miss World."

I don't care what anybody says, them wot'days!
 
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