Grbic

[thehet]

We’ll get a loan prem GK in like we did with Hendo.

 

[Greenwich Blade]

I can see that he isn’t a good keeper. My points are first that he is not as dreadful as some say and second that he and Davies will be ok if we have a decent defence and good attacking players.
If we have sufficient funds then he should be replaced.

He's the worst goalie I've seen playing for United, and that includes Richardson, Johns and Baxter, to name but three. I'm not sure how much more dreadful he could be.

 

[Davalon]

I feel sorry for him in a way and ironic cheers when he makes basic stops like at Harrogate last night, don't do anyone any favours.

However, it shows the little faith people have and he can't possibly be allowed to play this coming season. I was all for giving him patience but that has gone now.

He's a liability who seems to struggle with the basics. Even if it's mainly confidence driven, s change is needed. You can't a keeper at any level.

 

[Davalon]

My points are first that he is not as dreadful as some say and second that he and Davies will be ok if we have a decent defence and good attacking players.

Occasionally wanting to be the most supportive can make you look deluded.

You can't carry a notably sub standard keeper at any level.

 

[Snowflake]

He's the worst goalie I've seen playing for United, and that includes Richardson, Johns and Baxter, to name but three. I'm not sure how much more dreadful he could be.

Apart from recent friendlies he has only been seen in the PL behind a dreadful defence. Was he more dreadful than the defence ?
If we have a good defence this season and a positive approach going forward I think he would not be dreadful. I may be wrong but until I have seen him play after the window shuts then I reserve my judgment.

 

[Snowflake]

Occasionally wanting to be the most supportive can make you look deluded.

You can't carry a notably sub standard keeper at any level.

We may not have the choice is the point I am obviously failing to get across.
If we can put together a good squad AND find a better keeper then great, but in the meantime we go with what we have.
It is not a matter of being supportive to the extent of delusion but of being realistic. Hopefully my reading of our finances is deluded !!

 

[Derek1889]

Hoping we get one in before window. Surely they see that but we might be stuck with what is going on

 

[Lucky1979]

Apart from recent friendlies he has only been seen in the PL behind a dreadful defence. Was he more dreadful than the defence ?
If we have a good defence this season and a positive approach going forward I think he would not be dreadful. I may be wrong but until I have seen him play after the window shuts then I reserve my judgment.

Does having good defenders in front of you make you discover the ability to hold a ball? Or move your feet? Or catch?

 

[Vass Borbokis]

Apart from recent friendlies he has only been seen in the PL behind a dreadful defence. Was he more dreadful than the defence ?
If we have a good defence this season and a positive approach going forward I think he would not be dreadful. I may be wrong but until I have seen him play after the window shuts then I reserve my judgment.

But what's the excuse for his performance in friendlies against non-league teams and league 2 teams?

First shot against him last night and it's another error leading to a goal.

At the weekend, simple back pass to control, he lets roll under his foot and puts himself under pressure.

Lost count of the amount of times his kicking was wayward in the friendlies too, constantly kicking the ball out of play, surrendering possession.

I'd give up on this one if I were you.
We need a goalkeeper through the door before the season. This is a priority.

He was statistically the worst keeper in Europe last season, yet only played half the season.

He is the worst keeper I have ever seen.
I know recency bias could be swaying that, but I genuinely cannot remember every having less faith in a GK than this lad.

 

[Shadota]

To be clear before I go on: I do not believe that Grbic can salvage his career with us whatsoever. It would be best for all parties if we could just part ways and start over elsewhere.

That said, I think he was thrown to the wolves last season. He was signed when we were already proven to have an absolute dogshit defence, and even with a better keeper in goal in the form of Wes, we were still regularly shipping 3+ goals in the league. I can't imagine it is at all simple to come in as a goalkeeper, be put behind a defence that has already capitulated, and then be given shit when things go wrong for you too. Goalkeeper was absolutely not a position which needed strengthening last season - while we were conceding a lot, Wes was not the one at fault for many of them, so it is beyond me why we signed a new one in the first place. Did the club think that he would improve our crumbling defence, or misfiring attack?

Replacing a goalkeeper is a summer task. You have plenty of time to get a new stopper up to speed, get them familiar with their team mates, how the manager wants to play, what is expected of him in terms of distribution etc. You don't sign a fella who has never played in England before, put him in the team ahead of one of the better performing players of the season, and expect him to completely invert performances overnight. It almost seems like he was signed as a scapegoat.

Maybe if we had signed him at a different time, he would have been a success. Instead, that deal has turned out to be a shittier, more expensive, and more permanent version of Robin Olsen. I hope he can go on and have a good career somewhere, but after everything that has happened here, I am convinced that that cannot happen with us.

 

[Pintor75]

Shocking signing, whoever it was has wasted £2.5m!

 

[Bartleby]

Does having good defenders in front of you make you discover the ability to hold a ball? Or move your feet? Or catch?

Agree. Doesn't matter how good the defence is he's got to be able to make basic saves when called up on or he will just throw away any advantage we gain. He seems like he's moving through treacle sometimes.

 

[Snowflake]

Does having good defenders in front of you make you discover the ability to hold a ball? Or move your feet? Or catch?

No, but it does mean you don’t have to do very much.
I remember some Championship games where Wes did very little.

 

[Snowflake]

But what's the excuse for his performance in friendlies against non-league teams and league 2 teams?

First shot against him last night and it's another error leading to a goal.

At the weekend, simple back pass to control, he lets roll under his foot and puts himself under pressure.

Lost count of the amount of times his kicking was wayward in the friendlies too, constantly kicking the ball out of play, surrendering possession.

I'd give up on this one if I were you.
We need a goalkeeper through the door before the season. This is a priority.

He was statistically the worst keeper in Europe last season, yet only played half the season.

He is the worst keeper I have ever seen.
I know recency bias could be swaying that, but I genuinely cannot remember every having less faith in a GK than this lad.

As I keep saying, if we can find an affordable replacement then great, but in the meantime it’s him or Davies.
Yesterday’s goal was a defensive error which allowed their striker through unchallenged and he scored as he would against most Championship keepers, so let’s not heap every mistake on Grbic.

 

[loveWalrusDaveTheBlade]

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I’ve made an attempt to edit this Wikipedia page back to it’s original form, but I think that I’ve been only partially successful.

Wilder is busting his balls to persuade players to come to our club. People piss and moan about the damage to our reputation caused by our 2 point deduction. Yet it’s apparently OK, even funny, to abuse our players in public like this, in such an infantile manner. Grow up, whoever did it.

 

[Vass Borbokis]

As I keep saying, if we can find an affordable replacement then great, but in the meantime it’s him or Davies.
Yesterday’s goal was a defensive error which allowed their striker through unchallenged and he scored as he would against most Championship keepers, so let’s not heap every mistake on Grbic.

100% Sachdev's initial error was just as bad.
He's a young wingback who for some reason is now playing centre back, who is nowhere near ready for the first team, he has room to improve though.

Watch the goal back.
The Harrogate striker carries the ball 20-30 yards, yet Grbic is still wildly out of position.
He has a huge amount of time to get himself set, positioned correctly, make the net as small as possible for the striker.
What is the result?
An easy side-foot finish into the middle of the net.



Please look at the above and tell me how on earth he's decided that's the correct position he should be in.

I cannot fathom how someone would be content with starting the season with him in the net.

 

[Shawy24]

As I keep saying, if we can find an affordable replacement then great, but in the meantime it’s him or Davies.
Yesterday’s goal was a defensive error which allowed their striker through unchallenged and he scored as he would against most Championship keepers, so let’s not heap every mistake on Grbic.

Are you for real? Do you understand positioning for a keeper?

 

[Working Class Hero]

100% Sachdev's initial error was just as bad.
He's a young wingback who for some reason is now playing centre back, who is nowhere near ready for the first team, he has room to improve though.

Watch the goal back.
The Harrogate striker carries the ball 20-30 yards, yet Grbic is still wildly out of position.
He has a huge amount of time to get himself set, positioned correctly, make the net as small as possible for the striker.
What is the result?
An easy side-foot finish into the middle of the net.

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Please look at the above and tell me how on earth he's decided that's the correct position he should be in.

I cannot fathom how someone would be content with starting the season with him in the net.

Even in the wrong position, he should have still saved it!

 

[Slim Man]

Well said.

To be clear, Grbic, in his current form, is nowhere near the standard required for us. I think that we can all be pretty certain that Wilder has noticed this, and plans to do something about it.

The lad’s confidence has clearly been shot to pieces, and now looks beyond redemption - he needs a fresh start away from us.

The torrent of posts revelling in this situation is embarrassing, and the efforts of the posters to outdo each other with ever more ridiculous superlatives and look-at me statements of the obvious is even more pathetic that the performance of the person they are criticising. The booing and jeering in the ground last season and this preseason is cringeworthy.

Fuck him

 

[Slim Man]

As I keep saying, if we can find an affordable replacement then great, but in the meantime it’s him or Davies.
Yesterday’s goal was a defensive error which allowed their striker through unchallenged and he scored as he would against most Championship keepers, so let’s not heap every mistake on Grbic.

It's not him.

He makes Davies look like Ederson.

 

[The Bear]

What's Derek Richardson doing these days? Surely can't be any worse.

I thought Derek was his personal coach

 

[Colombia Blade]

Last season he had the worst goals against to expected goals against out of all 40 goalkeepers that played some minutes in the league. In his 9 games, he was expected to concede 14.7 goals and conceded 23 (plus two own goals which don't count for xGA stats) meaning he was expected to save 8.3 goals that he didn't (Wes was expected to save 3.5 goals that he didn't, for comparison). The average for all goalkeepers was 1.15 goals expected to be saved which weren't. Interestingly, Mark Flekken of Brentford was nearly as bad in these stats as he let in 7.6 goals that he was expected to save (just mentioning him as he's considered a good keeper)

I suppose with these stats there's all kinds of caveats like luck or ability of the striker, but either way, it's a pretty bad stat

 

[CrookesBlade]

I can see that he isn’t a good keeper. My points are first that he is not as dreadful as some say and second that he and Davies will be ok if we have a decent defence and good attacking players.
If we have sufficient funds then he should be replaced.

I agree re Davies. Would be fine to start the season with if required behind a solid defence. Unfairly maligned. Not 1st choice but good enough as back up when called upon.

Grbic will cost a minimum of a goal a game though, if not more. Everything about him baffles me. Wilder did say though more or less that both player and club don’t want to continue the relationship so I can’t imagine he’s exactly been hammering it in training to turn things around.

I remember having a lot of sympathy for George Long when he started the 2016/17 season off so badly. You could tell he was trying but his confidence was shot to bits. In fairness though he had a decent season the previous year so I felt there should have been more good will in the bank from the fans.

Not so much with Grbic - got the impression he never really fancied it from the beginning, is putting in the minimum effort required to get paid every month and is just waiting on his agent to pull something out the bag.

 

[Torrix1889]

He doesnt fill any of us with confidence but tbf to the lad he got booed when his name was read out.

Did he get booed last night?

 

[Vass Borbokis]

Last season he had the worst goals against to expected goals against out of all 40 goalkeepers that played some minutes in the league. In his 9 games, he was expected to concede 14.7 goals and conceded 23 (plus two own goals which don't count for xGA stats) meaning he was expected to save 8.3 goals that he didn't (Wes was expected to save 3.5 goals that he didn't, for comparison). The average for all goalkeepers was 1.15 goals expected to be saved which weren't. Interestingly, Mark Flekken of Brentford was nearly as bad in these stats as he let in 7.6 goals that he was expected to save (just mentioning him as he's considered a good keeper)

I suppose with these stats there's all kinds of caveats like luck or ability of the striker, but either way, it's a pretty bad stat

Worth taking into account Flekken played 37 premier league games for Brentford last season and Grbic played 9.

Using your stats provided above, If Grbic played the same amount of games, he'd have conceded 34.1 goals that he shouldn't have, compared to Flekken's 7.6

 

[Torrix1889]

As I keep saying, if we can find an affordable replacement then great, but in the meantime it’s him or Davies.
Yesterday’s goal was a defensive error which allowed their striker through unchallenged and he scored as he would against most Championship keepers, so let’s not heap every mistake on Grbic.

It was a very saveable shot....

 

[Bartleby]

I’ve made an attempt to edit this Wikipedia page back to it’s original form, but I think that I’ve been only partially successful.

Wilder is busting his balls to persuade players to come to our club. People piss and moan about the damage to our reputation caused by our 2 point deduction. Yet it’s apparently OK, even funny, to abuse our players in public like this, in such an infantile manner. Grow up, whoever did it.

Bad as I think Grbic is, vandalising a wiki page of a player on our books like that is the lowest of the low if it's Blades that's done it.

 

[manxblade]

I would have jags back even now and put him in goal rather than have Grbic he should be no where near the efl never mind the championship

 

[Mumbo]

Everyone thought wow 6 ft 5 ,he’s a giant, he’ll make a reight keeper,and that’s the only reason I can think of how he’s made it this far in the game.
When he does get around to diving
he’s only 4 ft 2.
Bless him.

 

[Tezza1889]

If he plays between 8 - 15 games at the start of the season we could be relegated..

Every opposition player will be shooting on sight, centre halves will be scoring from outside the box..

Some are being nice and I don't support the bullying as well, but.

Would you want him in the net against the pigs .. ask yourself that?