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[Sean Thornton]

I'm sure it was. He shouldn't have said it, and it's about times fans stopped banging on about it.

UTB

It was a poor analogy but anyone who thought it meant we would spend like Liverpool is, well......

 

[Bladesman]

I'm sure it was. He shouldn't have said it, and it's about times fan stopped banging on about it.

UTB

Should have corrected himself then.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Should have corrected himself then.

So if you knew/know it was bollocks, why keep harping on?

 

[Fanny magnet]

Oh look! Who mentioned it first and who replied. Is it short term memory loss?

Are you asking me ? If so it was chris wilder in the interview this threads about

Be amazed if we see any decent investment unless we get new owners.


Same here ,still think we'll be ok though

that was a reply to someone who mentioned it before me in a post i made quoting the manager so I think it's you who has short term memory loss

 

[Bladesman]

So if you knew/know it was bollocks, why keep harping on?

The comment has since proved to be bollocks.

 

[Sean Thornton]

that was a reply to someone who mentioned it before me in a post i made quoting the manager so I think it's you who has short term memory loss

And as Ive explained, there was a comment that we'd not see decent investment despite Wilders comments. You agreed with it.

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

It's all by the by anyhooooo. Bolton will win the league and Fleetwood will grab second spot. Germans don't fuck up very often and Rosler is playing uber cool mind games.
Vorsprung durch technik.

 

[Sean Thornton]

The comment has since proved to be bollocks.

So you believed it initially?

 

[Bladesman]

So you believed it initially?

I think many people did. Not everyone has the same bullshit reader you have.

People thought Prince, investment, think Liverpool and then thought "Fucking hell, we can finally get the likes of Conor Sammon in on loan!"

 

[alcoblade]

Should have corrected himself then.

He should. And after the 500th time of debating it, people should have moved on.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I think many people did. Not everyone has the same bullshit reader you have.

People thought Prince, investment, think Liverpool and then thought "Fucking hell, we can finally get the likes of Conor Sammon in on loan!"

Was that the first time you thought McCabe had your pants down then?

You believed it then, don't now and arestill wearing it as a badge of honour. You must have been one of those people slashers call clappers at the time if you thought that.

As Alco says, it's old news. Let's see what happens in the Summer, which is far more important, although some can't even wait for that.

 

[Deleted member 875]

It was a very interesting watch.

Two honest, genuine football men who have worked their way up from the bottom and both sport very impressive CV's.

I can't praise Uwe Rosler enough, he has been schooled by his hard knocks, including beating lung cancer, and he always strikes me as someone who quietly goes out his business with a lot of pragmatism, and doesn't get carried away, and i don't think he would look out of place managing in the top flight. In some ways he is very similar to Chris Wilder and it is no great surprise that United and Fleetwood are 1st and 3rd as for me they are far and away the best two managers in this Division.

What i really liked was the statement from Chris Wilder when he stated quite clearly that United wouldn't be held to ransom in the transfer market or with the wages that we pay, and players have to want to come us for footballing reasons rather than for the money that we pay. It all stems back to wanting more bang for our buck. I happen to think that we have some more money available in the Championship to spend, and i don't think there will be any doubting that, but what will be crucial is how we spend it, and i think the management team we have in place will save us from going out and spending a small fortune on mercenaries on long contracts.

 

[Bladesman]

Was that the first time you thought McCabe had your pants down then?

You believed it then, don't now and arestill wearing it as a badge of honour. You must have been one of those people slashers call clappers at the time if you thought that.

As Alco says, it's old news. Let's see what happens in the Summer, which is far more important, although some can't even wait for that.

No, just something else that proves he is full of shit really. Thanks for your help in making sure everyone knows it was complete bullshit though.

We won't hold the club to account and not question any statements the club makes. We should really know our place as customers and be thankful.

 

[Sean Thornton]

No, just something else that proves he is full of shit really. Thanks for your help in making sure everyone knows it was complete bullshit though.

We won't hold the club to account and not question any statements the club makes. We should really know our place as customers and be thankful.

How many years ago was it? Anyway, you believed it then so you wouldn't have questioned it. It must have been a great disappointment when the light bulb came on.

You are the first person I've ever come across who admits to believing it though. Most of the enlightened "knew" it was bs straight away. Even if they didn't understand the context.

Anyway, let's move on from this discussion and old news and try to enjoy the rest of the season. Plenty of time to discuss investment levels or lack of in the Summer.

 

[Dkc]

So we're not going to be bidding for Suarez when we get promoted then?

 

[Th!stledo]

I am sorry but I don't rate Uwe Rosler highly. I feel he is a 'sunshine manager' who is great and believable when things are going well but struggles when times get difficult. He has never achieved promotion with an English club. He jumped ship to Wigan from Brentford - leaving Mark Warburton to finish the task. He has since been sacked by Wigan and Leeds.

He originally set the bar low at Fleetwood and increases it when the target is met and has discounted 'automatic promotion' so that he does not feel under pressure.

His comments about Man City typified his approach. He said it will take a couple of transfer windows before they can come good because they won't have the funds to do it all in one go. At a value of of £532 million, their squad are ranked third in Europe - only below Man U and Real Madrid!!!

No matter how much you polish it, bullshit is still bullshit - as we found out with Madkins last season. There is a reason why Chris Wilder has never been sacked and I hope no matter what hardship the job brings him, that he will keep his open and honest approach.

Finally I would like to acknowledge the partnership of Alan Knill and Chris Wilder. Individually they are formidable but as a team they complement each other and bring so much to the table that they are really top drawer.

COYRAWW !!!

 

[Deadly_D'Jaffo]

Wilder at his brutally honest best "I don't care about England, I've got enough on my plate"

Absolutely love this statement.

Nice to see it isn't just fans who care little for the shambolic national setup we are told to get patriotic about...

 

[Rodley]

Think Liverpool type investment has now become think Huddersfield & Preston type investment.

That'll be Huddersfield owned by Dean Hoyle (neck end of £400m) and Preston with an owner worth £800m.

Welcome to the big leagues

 

[Basing Blade]

Sheffield United ARE MY England side.

 

[Aston max]

to bring a bit of realism and I dare say without looking 1 or 2 on here will have already said this when we go up it will be a holding season to build and see what CW thinks he needs to push on for the top 8 yes we know the prince has said premier league is the promised land but he and mccabe will not put this club of ours at risk for the sake of a dream , as much as anyone I want us to entertain manure, city etc at the lane but dont want us to end up like portsmouth ,blackpool etc

 

[yorkshirecoast]

Wilder said we should be thinking more along the lines of Huddersfield and Preston. Certainly in terms of wage structure.

It does sort of contradict the "Think Liverpool" comment somewhat unless Liverpool pay all their players 5k a week.

Huddersfield and Preston?! Ffs. The excuse in L1 for poor investment was that we would only see the Prince investing big once we were in the Championship. This comment proves that was just more crap from our joke of a Board.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Competing with Preston and Huddersfield would show significant ambition. They've had Championship revenues for a number of years. I'd be disappointed if that was still the case the season after (providing we stay up).

 

[cahill]

Out of all the Championship matches I've seen on TV this season, I've enjoyed watching Huddersfield and Preston Both Ends the most

I became cynical about the gravitas of the Saudi Arabian Kings grandson when I learned there were about 5,000 grandsons.

 

[Baw Heid]

Really enjoyed listening to the two of them. Proper football people although it seems all the clubs in our league have great squads, lead by wonderful managers, who will go up

 

[Northyorksblade]

It was a very interesting watch.

Two honest, genuine football men who have worked their way up from the bottom and both sport very impressive CV's.

I can't praise Uwe Rosler enough, he has been schooled by his hard knocks, including beating lung cancer, and he always strikes me as someone who quietly goes out his business with a lot of pragmatism, and doesn't get carried away, and i don't think he would look out of place managing in the top flight. In some ways he is very similar to Chris Wilder and it is no great surprise that United and Fleetwood are 1st and 3rd as for me they are far and away the best two managers in this Division.

What i really liked was the statement from Chris Wilder when he stated quite clearly that United wouldn't be held to ransom in the transfer market or with the wages that we pay, and players have to want to come us for footballing reasons rather than for the money that we pay. It all stems back to wanting more bang for our buck. I happen to think that we have some more money available in the Championship to spend, and i don't think there will be any doubting that, but what will be crucial is how we spend it, and i think the management team we have in place will save us from going out and spending a small fortune on mercenaries on long contracts.

I think you've got it spot on. Also, ref the transfer market, I suspect he doesn't want any Prima donnas on big wages thinking they're better than others in the team. Not a bad thing surely? This season he's got a team, all pulling together, let's keep it that way.

 

[Sheffsteel]

What did you think that comment meant then? Or was it just bullshit PR from the club then?

So are you telling me when we were in league 1 you seriously thought we'd be buying players to the calibre of Louis Saurez and Daniel Sturridge spending 30 to 40 million on players?

Surely you're not that gullible?

If I remember rightly he was talking in context of it woundnt be a Man City type investment where we waste money and blow everyone out of the water He said its more accurate to think Liverpool meaning we would be one of the highest spenders in league 1 and have a budget big enough to make us realistic promotion contenders every year.

Financially in league 1 we would be similar to Liverpools financial standing in the PL.

I saw it a great news because it gauranteed we would be in the top budgets every year. Invariably those clubs with the biggest budgets get promoted sooner or later.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

So are you telling me when we were in league 1 you seriously thought we'd be buying players to the calibre of Louis Saurez and Daniel Sturridge spending 30 to 40 million on players?

Surely you're not that gullible?

If I remember rightly he was talking in context of it woundnt be a Man City type investment where we waste money and blow everyone out of the water He said its more accurate to think Liverpool meaning we would be one of the highest spenders in league 1 and have a budget big enough to make us realistic promotion contenders every year.

The only mistake in the original statement was the misinterpretation by some who heard it. As you say, a steady investment over years like Liverpool, rather than a massive splurge up front like Man City. It was all about the type of investing rather than actual amounts, which some jumped on. Though why people would think that SUFC in the 3rd division would match the hundreds of millions invested by Liverpool, chuff knows!

 

[Bladesman]

So are you telling me when we were in league 1 you seriously thought we'd be buying players to the calibre of Louis Saurez and Daniel Sturridge spending 30 to 40 million on players?

Surely you're not that gullible?

If I remember rightly he was talking in context of it woundnt be a Man City type investment where we waste money and blow everyone out of the water He said its more accurate to think Liverpool meaning we would be one of the highest spenders in league 1 and have a budget big enough to make us realistic promotion contenders every year.

Financially in league 1 we would be similar to Liverpools financial standing in the PL.

I saw it a great news because it gauranteed we would be in the top budgets every year. Invariably those clubs with the biggest budgets get promoted sooner or later.

Yes, that is what I said. I thought we would be buying Messi.

 

[Maidenhead]

He sounds a bit of a dick to me, you should always aim for the maximum.

Unfortunately one of my bosses always thought that when discussing targets.

I preferred to focus on the realistic

 

[cahill]

Yes, that is what I said. I thought we would be buying Messi.

Ahhh your mistake " messy buying" as in chaotic, not buying Messi. Did you think we were buying Messi ?
Someone spread a rumour many years ago that we were buying " the hand of God" and who'd have believed that ?