Give Blackwell a break

[Dog Blade]

Dog -

Paddy - Wrong, if he knew about it after the Preston game he'd have been banned for Wembley, which he wasn't. He knew about this well after the PO Final. But, I don't even think it matters, as I said, I'm sure he'd have loved to have signed an experienced proven keeper for a few million but with Kenny's future uncertain it would have been folly to sign someone for millions then Kenny be available in say, November.

Naysmith - Injured in the Burnley league game, which was the third to last game of the regulation season. Unfortunately due to a change in the clubs transfer policy signing a Naysmith player (I.e played LB for a good PL team for years) and bags of International caps was never going to be an option.

Killa - You are wrong. We have offered Kilgallon a new contract and turned down 2 bids for him. Not the actions of a club who look resigned to losing a player.

Ward - I don't know if KB said that, if he did I'm sure it was just to stop the pressure from the fans mounting if he didn't hit it off straight away. But would you rather he just didn't play him and stuck by a flippant comment he made over six months ago?

Monty - I think it is no coincidence that Monty's return to the team in November 08 was a major factor behind our battling spirit and general lack of slopping goals being given away due to midfield not doing their job.

Please enlighten to me who should have taken our place at Wembley.

Fairytales - This was in response to someone else who thinks if KB leaves then Geary's persistant knee troubles, Naysmith's knee, Monty's knee, Williamson's back, Ward's wrist, whatever is wrong with Treacy, whatever is wrong with Davies will all suddenly heal. I wonder if this poster also thinks Kenny's ban will suddenly be cut short. It seems almost too good a story to pass up on, perhaps Walt Disney could turn it into a film.

It's not about the injuries - it's about the fact that WE WILL NEVER MOVE FORWARD WITH BLACKWELL AS MANAGER.

Paddy - he failed the test after the Preston game? Will have found out soon after that and should be prepared to be without him and not sign Bunn.

Naysmith - he's signed Taylor AND NOW HE'S HAD TO SIGN Stewart - POOR

Killa - believe me BLACKWELL KNEW once we lost that Kilgallon would not be staying

Ward - no, he should play him. Hats off to Blackwell, great signing so far. However he did say that and so can't complain if he is injured if we are getting a bit pedantic on it. But great signing and hope he's back soon - to play on the wing and get back to help out our two crap left backs

Monty - I'll never knock a player like him but I'd disagree.

Taken our place at Wembley - any of the other teams below us that took all of the bad luck last year whilst we, and Blackwell, got lucky. This year we are getting found out. As I've said before IF we'd have won at Wembley I'd have moved Blackwell out OR put him as a number two as he can not be the front man and manage a club like ours. He never has done and never will do. Number two, poor manager, lacking respect and a bit of a bully boy. People in football can't believe how he's got this job. The Leeds job they could as he'd been rated as a number two, but he got found out, and will continue to. If I was McCabe I wouldn't be prepared to see us slip further and average 17k next year.

Fairytales - I reckon they'd take a while to write. I'd be willing to give someone a long long time to sort a fairytale at the lane; if I knew they could pick up a pen and write a word or two to start us off...

 

[sitwell]

The whole point is ,the players are good enough but they are badly managed ,both tactically and motivationally.

 

[Dog Blade]

I'm making the perfectly valid point that successful teams have remarkably few injuries and it's perfectly reasonable to believe that players in winning, happy teams are likely to be keener to get off the treatment table.
Think about it in any work context.
It isn't rocket science Dazzler.

Not saying this is the case at the lane at the minute, in fact I don't think it is, but I'm sure if this could be proved or not then it would be a proven fact.
It's very easy for people to throw in a hamstring or a groin when the going is tough or there is trouble around.
Amazing how people do 'work harder' to get fit when the place is buzzing - I've seen it.

 

[Darren]

I'm making the perfectly valid point that successful teams have remarkably few injuries and it's perfectly reasonable to believe that players in winning, happy teams are likely to be keener to get off the treatment table.
Think about it in any work context.
It isn't rocket science Dazzler.

I don't know how the bonus system works at the Lane, but I strongly suspect a first team player missing out on bonuses whilst he is not playing is taking a significant dent in his income - hence he will be wanting to get back into the team as soon as possible. You also have to factor in that professional footballers are generally highly motivated - if they weren't, they would not have made it to where they are when 99% of aspirants fall by the wayside.

In other words the football context is not like any other work contexts.

As for your comment about successful teams and lack of injuries I rather think you have got cause and effect mixed up.

 

[blades1889]

i give him a brake, lets give someone else the job and he can have a life long brake from united

 

[lenners]

I don't know how the bonus system works at the Lane, but I strongly suspect a first team player missing out on bonuses whilst he is not playing is taking a significant dent in his income - hence he will be wanting to get back into the team as soon as possible. You also have to factor in that professional footballers are generally highly motivated - if they weren't, they would not have made it to where they are when 99% of aspirants fall by the wayside.

In other words the football context is not like any other work contexts.

As for your comment about successful teams and lack of injuries I rather think you have got cause and effect mixed up.

Of course football is very similar to any other work context, that's exactly the harsh truth about players moving on without sentiment etc.
And a happy workplace has lower sickness levels which, I'm pretty sure, could be factually backed up.
It's not an exact science (hence it isn't rocket science) but there is definitely an element of truth to people not wanting to go to work, whatever that work is, if they're completely fed up of the manager, the training routine, teammates whatever.

 

[Deleted member 2102]

Of course football is very similar to any other work context, that's exactly the harsh truth about players moving on without sentiment etc.
And a happy workplace has lower sickness levels which, I'm pretty sure, could be factually backed up.
It's not an exact science (hence it isn't rocket science) but there is definitely an element of truth to people not wanting to go to work, whatever that work is, if they're completely fed up of the manager, the training routine, teammates whatever.

My office had a recent spate of hamstring injuries that really effected productivity. I hope we do not get a spate of broken Metatarsals over the Xmas period.

 

[lenners]

My office had a recent spate of hamstring injuries that really effected productivity. I hope we do not get a spate of broken Metatarsals over the Xmas period.

The official club piece with McCabe's comments yesterday suggested that the management/chairman/club do not even know which players are injured or not.
Cotterill, Cresswell and Williamson were all down as missing but I think all three were involved last night.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

It's not about the injuries - it's about the fact that WE WILL NEVER MOVE FORWARD WITH BLACKWELL AS MANAGER.

Why did we move forward last season with Blackwell as manager then?

 

[alcoblade]

The official club piece with McCabe's comments yesterday suggested that the management/chairman/club do not even know which players are injured or not.
Cotterill, Cresswell and Williamson were all down as missing but I think all three were involved last night.

in actual fact, the injury list really isn't that long now. It's debatable how many players are feeling the affects of injuries, bu other than Ward and Naysmith, we're almost there. Given that Naysmith will not change our fortunes, there's an awful lot riding on Jamie Ward now.

UTB

 

[alcoblade]

Why did we move forward last season with Blackwell as manager then?

good question, but "moving forward" is subjective. If like me, you've written off premiership football, then moving forward could be considered a changed to a more progressive, eye pleasing style. Can you really see that happening under Blackwell?

Also, since Blackwell's been here he's been gradually shaping the squad with his own players, albeit forced by cost cutting (re-profiling", LOL). Given the way we've spent the money we've spent, can we have confidence that Blackwell will do this job well in future?

UTB

 

[Kenilworth]

in actual fact, the injury list really isn't that long now. It's debatable how many players are feeling the affects of injuries, but other than Ward and Naysmith, we're almost there. Given that Naysmith will not change our fortunes, there's an awful lot riding on Jamie Ward now.

Not sure Williamson or Fortune are there yet either and Geary certainly isn't.
Cresswell soldiered on with cracked ribs - that shows some guts - Davies is struggling with his knee injury and Monty has a few more weeks to go and he is pivotal for us being difficult to beat.

It's not good but then that's a challenge the management team and the players have to overcome. It happens to other clubs (I understand Derby had 15 players unavailable to them yesterday). Those players who are on the fringes have to stand up and be counted and that includes the likes of Stewart and Little.

Ward makes a massive difference to us. Naysmith is solid and dependable but no World beater but we are missing both of them big style at the moment.

 

[lenners]

good question, but "moving forward" is subjective. If like me, you've written off premiership football, then moving forward could be considered a changed to a more progressive, eye pleasing style. Can you really see that happening under Blackwell?

Also, since Blackwell's been here he's been gradually shaping the squad with his own players, albeit forced by cost cutting (re-profiling", LOL). Given the way we've spent the money we've spent, can we have confidence that Blackwell will do this job well in future?

UTB

The heart of the problem revolves around McCabe wanting a change in approach and then appointing the wrong man to bring it about in Robson.
Having dropped one, he doesn't appear able to grasp the nettle now and set out a clear vision for how he wants us to progess on the pitch which, for all the off field developments, is the place that really matters.

 

[The Fox]

I can see both sides of this one - Players , Injuries , Loans etc.
Im not one who wants the manager out when there are mitigating circumstances to the current run were in, some of these being the board and the decisions over thae last few months .
Sometime over the last year we started to sell talent rather than recruit, and no surprises results have followed.
"Its the Agents fault" "You cant tell them they cant go" then
" Times are Hard" " "world wide recession" " Loss of Parachute payments" then the consequnces
"Young lads" and "Its takes time with so many new faces" and now
"Injuries never been as bad"

The House of cards effect is coming home to roost - Its starts at the top and the lot come tumbling down .

Unfortunately someone at the top should have realised that in football and business ( which are the same we kept getting told) when you stop going forwards , you start going backwards.Blackwells doing his best to dig himself and his employers out of a hole - credit to him for that , problem is he's part of the problem as well.

Its a bit of a mess all in all and i actually think things will have to get worse before they get better .

The optimistic bit is that we've been in worse positions and come out of it stronger.

Same old Rollercoaster - I Wouldn't have it any other way -Perhaps thats why I'm a blade

 

[Santos]

It's not about the injuries - it's about the fact that WE WILL NEVER MOVE FORWARD WITH BLACKWELL AS MANAGER.

Paddy - he failed the test after the Preston game? Will have found out soon after that and should be prepared to be without him and not sign Bunn.

Naysmith - he's signed Taylor AND NOW HE'S HAD TO SIGN Stewart - POOR

Killa - believe me BLACKWELL KNEW once we lost that Kilgallon would not be staying

Ward - no, he should play him. Hats off to Blackwell, great signing so far. However he did say that and so can't complain if he is injured if we are getting a bit pedantic on it. But great signing and hope he's back soon - to play on the wing and get back to help out our two crap left backs

Monty - I'll never knock a player like him but I'd disagree.

Taken our place at Wembley - any of the other teams below us that took all of the bad luck last year whilst we, and Blackwell, got lucky. This year we are getting found out. As I've said before IF we'd have won at Wembley I'd have moved Blackwell out OR put him as a number two as he can not be the front man and manage a club like ours. He never has done and never will do. Number two, poor manager, lacking respect and a bit of a bully boy. People in football can't believe how he's got this job. The Leeds job they could as he'd been rated as a number two, but he got found out, and will continue to. If I was McCabe I wouldn't be prepared to see us slip further and average 17k next year.

Fairytales - I reckon they'd take a while to write. I'd be willing to give someone a long long time to sort a fairytale at the lane; if I knew they could pick up a pen and write a word or two to start us off...

Not convinced me one bit there Doggy, and I certainly won't be BELIEVING YOU about Killa.

I must say I am taken aback about your comments that we were lucky all last season whereas all the clubs below us were riddled with bad luck. This really is a dumb thing to say and deep down I think you probably know it, but it's the best you can come up with. If you really are serious, I suggest you google 'Watford 2 - 2 Reading Stuart Attwell'. I don't remember us getting that lucky last season at all, infact not one 'lucky' moment springs to my my immediately. We wern't amazing to watch, granted and a lot of our wins were the result of fantastic defensive organisation and a high work rate - I don't think that constitutes lucky.

 

[DazBlade88]

I would suggest that there's alot more wrong with the team at the moment than injuries.

The thing that worries me, is that a team of professional footballers look absolutely lost on the pitch at the moment. We are so dis-organised in all areas of pitch.

The defence play like they've never played with each other before, because we've now conceded more than half of what we conceded in 46 games last season. They're getting pulled about all over the place and don't seem to know who's marking who half of the time.

Then you have the midfield who are playing like a bunch of 7 year old children chasing a ball around, leaving big gaps in the middle of the pitch throughout games. The amount of midfielders getting time and space to hurt us in the middle of the pitch is laughable.

The strikers are left isolated most of the time because when we do get possession we just hoof it forward after having 9 men behind the ball, so said striker tries to hold the ball up without having anyone to bring into play, therefore losing possession and putting us on the defensive once again.

We may have had our bad luck with injuries, but that doesn't mean you can't get the basics of the game right.

Blackwell to me, seems reluctant to change this style which is now costing us points. The team spirit is at the lowest I've seen for a long time, players are arguing with players, arguing with the manager, and after last night arguing with the fans, who are arguing with each other in the stands.

This period we're going through reminds me so much of when Robson was in charge. A Leeds fan at work says they went through a very similar type of thing there after the play-off defeat under Blackwell, and to be honest it concerns me.

On that note, I've had a look at Leeds' early season results from that season and to be fair it's not that dis-similar...

http://www.leedsunited.com/page/Fixtures/0,,10273~2006,00.html

 

[oldblade]

He may be limited tactically and might not always sound as cool and calm as you'd like him to but since last season

Kenny - Banned
Bunn - Everyone was raving about him (although I don't remember much praise being put at Blackwell's door for signing him) since his recent drop in form KB is being seen as a mug for loaning him.
Naughton - One of the strongest performers last year - Sold
Naysmith - One of the strongest performers last year - injured
Killa - Not playing anywhere near he's capable of due to the ongoing contract issue
Treacy - One of our strongest performers in the first six or seven games - It obviously isn't just because of this but it has not helped that since he's been injured our results have nose dived.
Ward - Ditto
Monty - Recently injured - He has his faults which are well documented but I think if he played our last two games we wouldn't have conceded six goals.
Halford - One of our strongest performers last year - left.
Williamson - KB saw him as a man to help sort out our MF problems and he hasn't kicked a ball in anger.
Davies - Injured.

I honestly can't remember a time we've had such a crippling injury list. I make it 9 players injured. Take 9 first team players out of any squad in this division and the results & performances will no doubt suffer.

Generally I think the players he's signed this summer will come good. Bunn is having a dodgy spell but he's only young - he does possess the qualities to become a good keeper, I'm sure KB would have preferred to sign a seasoned pro for a few million but money doesn't grow on trees. From what I have seen of Taylor I don't think he deserves the criticism he's been receiving, similiar to Bunn. Little is a great player who will bring experience, I only worry his legs may have gone. Harper was a class player a few years ago, time will tell if he still is. Treacy is a great player and Evans although hasn't been as promising as maybe we'd all have wished for he has shown enough for me to show he'll score plently of goals at this level with time. Already mentioned Williamson, but I was always impressed with him when I saw him play for PNE.

The only players who I think won't be much use are France & Reid.

If results & consequently league positions are still as bad in January when we have some players back then I guess McCabe may have to act. But by getting on the managers back after a month of poor results will never see this club go anywhere if the chairman who is shitting himself about season ticket sales for the forthcoming season has to sack the manager every 18 months.

Kozzy, I do take your point about injuries and other absences. Blackwell has been unlucky in that respect, and probably more unlucky than most managers in this division. The extent of the injury/abscence list is bound to cause some disruption.

But, some of these absences/injuries have been known about for a long time and could have been planned for.

We knew Naughton was going. We knew Naysmith was injured. We knew Paddy failed a drugs test and was likely to get a long suspension. Kilgallon's contract negotiations have been going on for a long time and it was rumoured in the summer that he would be going. Halford was a loanee last season and after failing to get promoted there was always a strong possibility that he would be gone. I certainly wasn't surprised by that one.

With cover so short at centre back, it was madness to sell Bromby before a replacement had been signed. And we were always vulnerable to injuries up front because of the lack of cover.

But I don't see the injury/absence list and the lack of cover in some areas as being the main problem. These things are problems and do contribute to some of the shortcomings in our performances. But my main gripe is the same one that I had around the time of the home defeats to Doncaster and Wednesday last season: there is little evidence of any organisation on the pitch. And that comes from the manager.

Ther manager is not to blame for individual clangers, or strikers missing the target when it would be easier to score. But he is responsible for ensuring that the team takes the field of play with something resembling a coherent game plan.

And I know that sometimes your game plan doesn't work, and sometimes you are just unlucky to go behind (as against Doncaster this season). That's life. But when a plan is obviously not working the manager is responsible for changing things around to try and come up with something that does work. I see no evidence of that happening.

And I don't like being told again and again in media interviews that we were unlucky when we weren't, and that we bossed games when we didn't.

But I do not agree with the vile personal abuse tghat has been shouted at the players and manager. That will acheive nothing positive. We all have our views and are all entitled to express them. But if I go into restaurant and don't like what I get I don't start yelling insults at the waiters or chef. I just don't go there again if I feel that strongly.

 

[Santos]

Kozzy, I do take your point about injuries and other absences. Blackwell has been unlucky in that respect, and probably more unlucky than most managers in this division. The extent of the injury/abscence list is bound to cause some disruption.

But, some of these absences/injuries have been known about for a long time and could have been planned for.

We knew Naughton was going. We knew Naysmith was injured. We knew Paddy failed a drugs test and was likely to get a long suspension. Kilgallon's contract negotiations have been going on for a long time and it was rumoured in the summer that he would be going. Halford was a loanee last season and after failing to get promoted there was always a strong possibility that he would be gone. I certainly wasn't surprised by that one.

With cover so short at centre back, it was madness to sell Bromby before a replacement had been signed. And we were always vulnerable to injuries up front because of the lack of cover.

But I don't see the injury/absence list and the lack of cover in some areas as being the main problem. These things are problems and do contribute to some of the shortcomings in our performances. But my main gripe is the same one that I had around the time of the home defeats to Doncaster and Wednesday last season: there is little evidence of any organisation on the pitch. And that comes from the manager.

Ther manager is not to blame for individual clangers, or strikers missing the target when it would be easier to score. But he is responsible for ensuring that the team takes the field of play with something resembling a coherent game plan.

And I know that sometimes your game plan doesn't work, and sometimes you are just unlucky to go behind (as against Doncaster this season). That's life. But when a plan is obviously not working the manager is responsible for changing things around to try and come up with something that does work. I see no evidence of that happening.

And I don't like being told again and again in media interviews that we were unlucky when we weren't, and that we bossed games when we didn't.

But I do not agree with the vile personal abuse tghat has been shouted at the players and manager. That will acheive nothing positive. We all have our views and are all entitled to express them. But if I go into restaurant and don't like what I get I don't start yelling insults at the waiters or chef. I just don't go there again if I feel that strongly.

Good post OldBlade, but if I may take issue with a few things.

I will give you that Blackwell probably thought Naughton would leave for sure. The thing is, it's not like he could go out and buy a 7 million pound right back to replace him! As it is, Walker can play RB but we're still a quality body down. Players like Naughton don't grow on trees and the ones that are as good are way out of our price range.

I don't buy this about Killa being certain to leave after the PO final. If the club was resigned to losing him and knew he wouldn't sign then why didn't we sell him on deadline day when Newc & Boro came in for him. Granted it wouldn't have been good PR for the club him going to a rival weeks after Naughton & Walker left but I'd hope the club can see good business sense over trying to placate a section of fans who will always find something to whine about. The club should be applauded for turning down bids, offering him a new contract and trying to get him to sign - but at the end of the day it comes down to the player and his representatives.

Kenny - I really don't know what more he could have done. It was only exactly last month that everyone was saying Bunn was a better keeper than Kenny and we should do all we can to sign him in January. He's had a mare since then but he hasn't been helped by those infront of him impersenating defenders (Morgan apart) and players such as Quinn, Harper & Monty giving players freedom of the pitch to take their time and pick their spot. It doesn't matter when KB found out about Paddy, it was a bombshell and signing keeper for decent money would have put a massive dent in our other areas of spending which at the time looked like they needed more doing to them.

I'm sure we're not looking that organised and at times struggle to see where the next pass or shot is going to come from but when you overhaul the personnel in the manner we've done it isn't that surprising.

As for his media interviews, you may have a point but this is a complaint almost every football supporter has about our manager - it is certainly a stick which we've used to beat Warnock & Robson with.

 

[oldblade]

I also doubt that it was certain Kilgallon would leave once we lost the play off final. But, the contract negotiations do seem to have been going on for a long time, and during the summer I certainly got the impression we may be starting the season without him. There was a pretty obvious possiblility of a problem developing there, and in my view Blackwell didn't help by selling Bromby before a replacement had been secured.

The change in personnel and the injuries are bound to have an impact on performances and I do agree with some of the points you make. But my main gripe is with the total lack of any visible evidence of organisation. As I've said elsewhere, the manager cannot be held responsible for misplaced passes, wayward shots etc. But he is responsible for ensuring the side is organised and playing to some coherent plan. He is also responsible for changing things when the game isn't going according to plan. He does none of these things and I believe is therefore failing in one of the main aspects of managing a team. And conceding 17 goals in 7 matches against largely mediocre opposition suggests to me a big organisational problem.

We have both posted for many years on that other defunct site, and you will know that I have never been one for wanting managerial change at the drop of a hat. But I am now very worried about this season. The side isn't just performing poorly, it has what I call 'the dead man look', and once a side gets that it's very difficult to turn things around without a change of manager. I think the sooner he goes the better.

I think there is a big difference between Blackwell's after match interviews and Warnock's. Warnock would never criticise his players in public, and had many irritating rants against referees and officialdom - but sometimes with justification. But he didn't try and claim we dominated games or outplayed the opposition when it was quite obvious we hadn't.

 

[ghandi]

Of course football is very similar to any other work context, that's exactly the harsh truth about players moving on without sentiment etc.
And a happy workplace has lower sickness levels which, I'm pretty sure, could be factually backed up.
It's not an exact science (hence it isn't rocket science) but there is definitely an element of truth to people not wanting to go to work, whatever that work is, if they're completely fed up of the manager, the training routine, teammates whatever.

Can we nail this myth about rocket science. Rocket science is simple as all it is about sending an object into outer space. Rocket propulsion and design is a complex science.

 

[shorehamview]

Can we nail this myth about rocket science. Rocket science is simple as all it is about sending an object into outer space. Rocket propulsion and design is a complex science.

If rocket science was a difficult subject then Americans wouldn't be doing it.

 

[Robbie]

Please tell me what he could have done to help the following players situations

Kenny, Naughton, Naysmith, Killa, Monty, Ward, Treacy.

Is the following mismanagement or lack of man management. Or neither as I suspect.

Killa - I'm sure he should be helping him keep on his game rather than let things sway his mind.
Naughton... well he allowed his transfer. I agree he couldn't do much about it, but he allows the sales of said players - whereas other managers may not stand for it.
Kenny - see below.
Ward - see below
Naysmith- we could have replaced him with competent players, rather than bit parters.
Treacy is a solution to a problem already.... but only a stop gap solution as he is on loan.

with Kenny's future uncertain it would have been folly to sign someone for millions then Kenny be available in say, November.

It was naive to think Kenny would get anything less than a 6 month ban. Tear Kennys contract up and replace him. simple enough

Killa - You are wrong. We have offered Kilgallon a new contract and turned down 2 bids for him. Not the actions of a club who look resigned to losing a player.

Which 2 clubs were this then? How much was bid?

Ward - I don't know if KB said that, if he did I'm sure it was just to stop the pressure from the fans mounting if he didn't hit it off straight away.

He did say it, for whatever reason.
I agree it was to keep the pressure off him, but 10 months later he is a vital part of the team.... What if he hadn't come good? We'd still be in this predicament.

 

[TonyAgana]

Not convinced me one bit there Doggy, and I certainly won't be BELIEVING YOU about Killa.

I must say I am taken aback about your comments that we were lucky all last season whereas all the clubs below us were riddled with bad luck. This really is a dumb thing to say and deep down I think you probably know it, but it's the best you can come up with. If you really are serious, I suggest you google 'Watford 2 - 2 Reading Stuart Attwell'. I don't remember us getting that lucky last season at all, infact not one 'lucky' moment springs to my my immediately. We wern't amazing to watch, granted and a lot of our wins were the result of fantastic defensive organisation and a high work rate - I don't think that constitutes lucky.

I think we can consider ourselves lucky in the sense that we weren't unlucky. The style of play that we relied upon, and continue to rely upon, has it's weaknesses. I've eluded to this in another thread so sorry if you've already read that and chosen to disagree, but it only takes two or three key injuries, maybe a bit of bad form, to see the cracks appear if you don't play possession football. It wouldn't have taken much last season to put us off track. We very rarely walked over our opposition last season - compare that with the promotion season.

 

[Sharpy]

Lies.

Oh.

HOOFWELL OUT

I cant for the life of me understand why ANYBODY would want to watch anymore of the shit we've seen under him. Ive seen sunday league sides that play better football than Sheffield United.

Rob Kozluk - Artist formerly known as being awesome.

 

[Fiery Blade]

This thread - Give Blackwell a break
I would for about twenty years and then go and bugger up someone else's football team!