Get it Grade 1 listed ..

[Canterbury Blade]

Hear me out..

Pigs stand that’s falling down is probably a very historical cantilever stand. Linked to World Cup 66. As we know unaltered and they do bang on about it..

So let’s start a campaign to get it listed status.

No more demolition plans, cost a fuckin fortune to do owt with it and mire them in red tape.,,

Just a thought or am I kicking a poorly puppy?

 

[madeinsheffield]

It would cost them even more, but offset that against kudos of something we don’t have.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

 

[Jon Bon II]

Good idea. See here for anyone with the time and desire to see it through.

https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/protect-historic-places/apply-for-listing/

 

[FINUK]

Tinsley cooling towers meant more to me

 

[Rodley]

Would end up costing more to upgrade the stadium and extensions / rebuilds would be much more problematic. We couldn’t knock down the Kop and rebuild it for example.

Adding Listed Building status would actually make investment and improvement of it less likely.

You would be better off applying for it to be an asset of community value (ACV) which adds some control over its disposal.

 

[Nick Jansky]

You would be better off applying for it to be an asset of community value (ACV) which adds some control over its disposal.

It adds virtually no control over it. All it does is enable the community to make a bid for it. But the owner can accept a higher bid.

 

[Rodley]

It adds virtually no control over it. All it does is enable the community to make a bid for it. But the owner can accept a higher bid.

It does in that it is a material consideration for planning applications attempting to change its use.

 

[riselikeasalmon]

Wouldn’t they get loads of our taxpayers £££ to protect it then though?

 

[Nick Jansky]

It does in that it is a material consideration for planning applications attempting to change its use.

An asset of community value can be sold, but with some restrictions. If the owner decides to sell, they must notify the local authority, which then triggers a moratorium period. This gives eligible community groups a chance to express interest and potentially bid for the asset. The moratorium period is typically 6 weeks initially, and if a community group expresses interest, it extends to 6 months. However, the owner is not obligated to sell to the community group, and the asset can be sold to anyone after the moratorium period expires. Here’s a more detailed breakdown:

• Notification:
  The owner of an asset listed as being of community value must notify their local authority when they intend to sell it.
  
  
• Moratorium:
  This notification triggers a moratorium period, during which the owner cannot sell the asset.
  
  
• Initial Moratorium:
  The initial moratorium period is 6 weeks.
  
  
• Full Moratorium:
  If a community interest group expresses interest in buying the asset, a full moratorium period of 6 months is triggered, giving the community group time to raise funds and prepare a bid.
  
  
• No Obligation to Sell:
  Even after the moratorium period, the owner is not obligated to sell the asset to the community group and can sell it to any other party.
  
  
• Community Right to Bid:
  The process of giving community groups a chance to bid is known as the Community Right to Bid.
  
  
• No Right of First Refusal:
  The community group does not have a right of first refusal and is not entitled to purchase the asset at a lower price.
  
  
• Removal from Register:
  If the asset is sold, the new owner can apply to have the property removed from the ACV register.

 

[Rodley]

An asset of community value can be sold, but with some restrictions. If the owner decides to sell, they must notify the local authority, which then triggers a moratorium period. This gives eligible community groups a chance to express interest and potentially bid for the asset. The moratorium period is typically 6 weeks initially, and if a community group expresses interest, it extends to 6 months. However, the owner is not obligated to sell to the community group, and the asset can be sold to anyone after the moratorium period expires. Here’s a more detailed breakdown:

• Notification:
  The owner of an asset listed as being of community value must notify their local authority when they intend to sell it.
  
  
• Moratorium:
  This notification triggers a moratorium period, during which the owner cannot sell the asset.
  
  
• Initial Moratorium:
  The initial moratorium period is 6 weeks.
  
  
• Full Moratorium:
  If a community interest group expresses interest in buying the asset, a full moratorium period of 6 months is triggered, giving the community group time to raise funds and prepare a bid.
  
  
• No Obligation to Sell:
  Even after the moratorium period, the owner is not obligated to sell the asset to the community group and can sell it to any other party.
  
  
• Community Right to Bid:
  The process of giving community groups a chance to bid is known as the Community Right to Bid.
  
  
• No Right of First Refusal:
  The community group does not have a right of first refusal and is not entitled to purchase the asset at a lower price.
  
  
• Removal from Register:
  If the asset is sold, the new owner can apply to have the property removed from the ACV register.

I’m aware of the disposal process, I think the OP was referring to seeking restrictions related to re-development and demolition. Incorrectly though I thought they were referring to BDTBL as it’s posted in GBC.

 

[mancunianblade]

different country different regulations I guess but two of Atalantas stands are listed and it’s a right ball ache

 

[Nick Jansky]

I’m aware of the disposal process, I think the OP was referring to seeking restrictions related to re-development and demolition.

Isn’t that a different thing to an ACV? (I’m not sure so I’m asking).

 

[Rodley]

Isn’t that a different thing to an ACV? (I’m not sure so I’m asking).

The OP is talking about Hillsborough which is adding a degree of confusion, for me certainly.

If you were seeking to protect BDTBL from redevelopment, getting Listed Building status would absolutely hamstring any small / minor alterations in red tape. An ACV wouldn’t preclude / frustrate its redevelopment but would add some control if someone was applying to demolish / redevelop or change its use without stopping its general function and upgrade. The ACV status is considered a material consideration for any planning application and forms part of the decision making process. It could change ownership of course!

 

[The Hobott]

Hear me out..

Pigs stand that’s falling down is probably a very historical cantilever stand. Linked to World Cup 66. As we know unaltered and they do bang on about it..

So let’s start a campaign to get it listed status.

No more demolition plans, cost a fuckin fortune to do owt with it and mire them in red tape.,,

Just a thought or am I kicking a poorly puppy?

Ooh you piece of work . Though to be fair I think we should buy them and close them down.

 

[jt64]

Sadly something being listed doesn't prevent cranes coming in and demolishing something overnight due to a "clerical error"

 

[Canterbury Blade]

Ooh you piece of work . Though to be fair I think we should buy them and close them down.

Yep you’re right.

The plan is to fuck em right up..

Why not??

 

[Stretch]

Tinsley cooling towers meant more to me

I spent years either living away or working away from Sheffield, and I used to pine for the sight of them as I came down the M1, invariably after a long and frustrating journey. When I saw them, I knew that I was nearly home.

I was gutted when they pulled them down.

 

[Canterbury Blade]

Next thought.. having been in their away stand in the Spring I absolutely felt unsafe. It was a blast back in time. Any Safety Advisiry Group could genuinely not approve of the egress from those two points that violently turn before you’re out. A crush point. Register a view now with SAG invite them to a busy away fixture and see how they feel getting out safely.

May be I’m being mean to the dying puppy, but safety first and if it deprives them of any away money so be it.

Close two stands is the campaign. Have to be safe in this world.,.

 

[BigBed]

Tinsley cooling towers meant more to me

Still do!!

 

[Jon Bon II]

Would end up costing more to upgrade the stadium and extensions / rebuilds would be much more problematic. We couldn’t knock down the Kop and rebuild it for example.

Adding Listed Building status would actually make investment and improvement of it less likely.

You would be better off applying for it to be an asset of community value (ACV) which adds some control over its disposal.

But the point of the thread is about applying to list Wednesday's North Stand, not our stands.