Gary Mackay-Steven

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Bladesway said:
Well I have read some guff and this is up there. Firstly have a butchers at the SPL league table. They aren't running away with it. They don't hump teams 5 and 6 every week. However my main point is he gets to play Champions League football at Celtic. Assuming he does have ambition then he wants to play against the best players possible. Let's not pretend he will get to do that with us.

My argument all along is we pitch in with embarrassing bids which alerts people to our interest. Then we play transfer tennis so everyone and his dog knows we are interested, then if finally the player is any good then someone better will have ample opportunity to do business.

For me you put the money on the table and stop doing it half arsed. That is our mistake.
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The 5 and 6 goals analogy was aimed at the 5-a-side teams.

As I also pointed out. Champions League football aside, he's hardly playing against "the best" players possible is he. There are far better players in the Championship than the SPL.

Point me back to this post in May if Celtic haven't won the SPL... again.

I'm 31 years old. In my lifetime Aberdeen have won the 84 & 85 title. Since then it's been Celtic and Rangers. It's a toss league, always has been.
 

mattbianco1 said:
The 5 and 6 goals analogy was aimed at the 5-a-side teams.

As I also pointed out. Champions League football aside, he's hardly playing against "the best" players possible is he. There are far better players in the Championship than the SPL.

Point me back to this post in May if Celtic haven't won the SPL... again.

I'm 31 years old. In my lifetime Aberdeen have won the 84 & 85 title. Since then it's been Celtic and Rangers. It's a toss league, always has been.
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Correct matt, in fact I think it'd be fair to describe it as a third world footballing nation who happen to throw up the occasional decent player. That apart, the monopoly of Celtic and Rangers has been tiresome. With Rangers struggling to get back to their position of prominence, Celtic have a stranglehold on the rest of that division, what must it feel like to know you've no chance of winning the title with that being the case?
 
Presty said:
mattbianco1 Not at you mate. Its just seems to be the latest excuse to wave a stick at Jim or Clough.

I see Jim is on twitter right now having to justify why he chose to join Celtic.
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Poor Jim. Bless him. Hope he's ok.

We can all accept GMS choosing Celtic. What is more difficult to accept is the constant crap spouted by Phipps and co., the half-arsed attempts to sign anyone decent and the complete lack of ambition from the Board.
 
mattbianco1 said:
Celtic are like one of those 5-a-side teams who literally rip the shit out of every team they play. They win all 14 games in a season by like 5 or 6 goals. The reason being that they're all ex-Hallam or current Meadowhall premier league players.

If they wanna get their kicks from beating players like me and most others (people who can only dream of reaching their standard) then I just laugh at them.

We used to play against a bloke at goals sumat Hague, used to be on the books at Wednesday, he's lost more skill than I've ever had, yet he used to turn up on a Wednesday night at goals going down at the first sign of contact.

People that choose Celtic (and Rangers of old) over England have no ambition in my eyes. Maybe not League 1 but we clearly have the potential here.
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Hmm, Celtic and win stuff and have European football or League 1 and don't. Tough call that one.
 
Deano said:
What a shocker.........Blades miss out on transfer target after tabling pitiful bid.

At least Nige will be happy ......he made sure we weren't held to ransom.
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Would you prefer us to pay over the odds in an attempt to secure promotion, not being held to ransom is just common sense. We've seen it fail before and cripple the club, I for one am pleased that we have a manager that thinks this way
 
ScoobBlade said:
Would you prefer us to pay over the odds in an attempt to secure promotion, not being held to ransom is just common sense. We've seen it fail before and cripple the club, I for one am pleased that we have a manager that thinks this way
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Yes, can't disagree with you there

However, the other side of the coin is that sometimes you have to bite the bullet to get in that extra bit of quality to ensure that Clough's statement of only bringing in players that will improve the team comes to fruition. The alternative is to carry on being frugal, sign no one of any note, or the usual quantity over quality and remain stranded in this division. We are either serious about wanting promotion, or we aren't. So far the conclusion I come to is that we are far from serious about promotion. Dilly fkin dallying. 3 bids on deadline day when Clough always maintains his insistance on getting his business done early! What? All bids on deadline day..........early?

Brizzle seem serious and at the minute the investment they are putting into aquisitions seems to be paying off. They lost Baldock and went straight out and brought in Agard. The top two scorers in the division last season. They have already brought in two players in Jan, one I've seen and rate highly and would've liked as an alternative to Brayford.

If the club wish to remain bit players in this division after the investment, then the investment will end up going down the pan. Macabe has been a master of it over the years and nothing is really changing is it? Sell Harry for £2m, rising to £2.5m and go out and "try to" bring in players for next to nowt

Ask yourself, how many of the 16 players Clough has brought in have really made us a top two side? My answer would be, not many.

All too often that is the Blades way
 
mattbianco1 said:
What I meant was - there's no way a player of his calibre was only being watched by two clubs. He's had a reputation for a few years now so will have been scouted regularly by many clubs. You must be able to see that?
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Yes,i get that mate,but iv'e never disputed that other clubs might be looking at him,what i was pissed off about is that there was only us in for him at first,we then put a poxy bid in,which was never going to be accepted in a month of Sundays for a player of his calibre,this giving the chance of a club like Celtic to come in for him and snap him up.

It's alright some people saying that as soon as Celtic came in it was all over,we should have never given Celtic the chance to come in for him.How long was we mulling over him for? I bet it was a good couple of weaks atleast before Celtic even got wind that we made an offer.

Never mind,there's plenty more players out there to bid 80k for to alert other clubs.
 
ScoobBlade said:
Would you prefer us to pay over the odds in an attempt to secure promotion, not being held to ransom is just common sense. We've seen it fail before and cripple the club, I for one am pleased that we have a manager that thinks this way
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Come on Scoob,you can't exactly say we were held to ransom over a sum as low as this in footballing terms?

I don't mind when the sums get a bit higher that we use that strategy mate,but when the sums are as low as this it's hardly a ransom is it? for a player who no doubt would be worth a lot more than we'd have bought him for in a year or two's time.
 
Any player who signs for us over Celtic would have to be a fucking idiot
 
judge said:
Any player who signs for us over Celtic would have to be a fucking idiot
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I'm sure that if given the chance to do so at the moment,then yes,i'd agree.Times can change though,and Celtic aren't like they used to be.

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This picture is of a game against Hearts recently where they got only 25,000 and that's with loads of free tickets given out,with free bus travel put on also.I think it's fair to say they're missing Rangers though 'tbh'.
 
judge said:
Any player who signs for us over Celtic would have to be a fucking idiot
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We've been fairly lucky that till now our Scottish signings haven't been on Celtic's radar - had they been in for Murphy, Scougs, or McNulty the chances of them picking us over them would, I'd have thought, been slim. We're actually probably one of the main beneficiaries of Rangers' demise - previously up and coming talent would have been fought over between the two. Now it's just Celtic, and they can't sign everyone. Sadly on this occasion though they wanted someone we wanted. While we're in a position to be, despite in League 1, an attractive club for first team players at clubs like Motherwell, we aren't for first team players at Celtic. Till we are, players both clubs are interested in will 99% of the time pick Celtic over us, in spite of the level of football.
 
LoughboroBlade said:
We've been fairly lucky that till now our Scottish signings haven't been on Celtic's radar - had they been in for Murphy, Scougs, or McNulty the chances of them picking us over them would, I'd have thought, been slim. We're actually probably one of the main beneficiaries of Rangers' demise - previously up and coming talent would have been fought over between the two. Now it's just Celtic, and they can't sign everyone. Sadly on this occasion though they wanted someone we wanted. While we're in a position to be, despite in League 1, an attractive club for first team players at clubs like Motherwell, we aren't for first team players at Celtic. Till we are, players both clubs are interested in will 99% of the time pick Celtic over us, in spite of the level of football.
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and that 1% could still be mackay-stephen its not a done deal with celtic yet gentlemans agreements can be broken as i dont think you can have pree-contracts with clubs within the same country.I could be wrong but i beleave that is the situation as far as contracts are concerned.
 
finlaytheblade said:
and that 1% could still be mackay-stephen its not a done deal with celtic yet gentlemans agreements can be broken as i dont think you can have pree-contracts with clubs within the same country.I could be wrong but i beleave that is the situation as far as contracts are concerned.
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Stop keeping my bleedin hopes up:D
 

wizadry said:
I'm sure that if given the chance to do so at the moment,then yes,i'd agree.Times can change though,and Celtic aren't like they used to be.

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This picture is of a game against Hearts recently where they got only 25,000 and that's with loads of free tickets given out,with free bus travel put on also.I think it's fair to say they're missing Rangers though 'tbh'.
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A cup match....

Lets compare that with the 6,000 that attended Plymouth at the Lane.
 
JL94x4 said:
A cup match....

Lets compare that with the 6,000 that attended Plymouth at the Lane.
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I'm sure you got the point Mr Wikipedia.The cup games against the likes of Hearts not so many years ago,with all the free tickets and bus rides etc would have been sellouts at Celtic.That isn't the case now.
 
Noticed he was playing for Celtic today. How did that happen? Thought pre-contract meant July 1st transfer?
 
mattbianco1 said:
Noticed he was playing for Celtic today. How did that happen? Thought pre-contract meant July 1st transfer?
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They signed him on deadline day for 200k matt, he scored on his debut in midweek in under a minute.
 
Fuck him anyway. Fair enough he's playing for a great club in Celtic, but honestly the Scots prem is not going to help him develop. I doubt a few qualifiers and group games in Europe will either.

Realistically you've got to come to England to push on as a Scot these days, surely?
 
Mackay Steven should have left Dundee Utd eighteen months ago. He has went back quite a bit in that time.
 

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