Gap between Premier League and Championship

[Selly]

I think there is a definite chance we have a situation where there is a NFL style Super League and the rest is seen like college football in America. The Super League clubs will dominate and their fans will be from all over the world but the legacy fans will barely ever get the chance to go to games. The rest of us will carry on as we are with less money, more youth orientated and knowing any good player will end up in the Super League. In that scenario I'd rather support United than a Liverpool to be honest

Get enough American owners and they will be pushing to reduce/eliminate the relegation spots.

The only reason the three promoted teams wouldn't vote for it is it would be unlikely to benefit them, as it would probably not kick in until the season after next.

And imagine the meltdown in the championship as teams attempt to go up that season - when people say it would destroy the pyramid, it would, but it would also likely result in half the Championship going under from overstretching themselves

 

[b1ade4life]

Get enough American owners and they will be pushing to reduce/eliminate the relegation spots.

The only reason the three promoted teams wouldn't vote for it is it would be unlikely to benefit them, as it would probably not kick in until the season after next.

And imagine the meltdown in the championship as teams attempt to go up that season - when people say it would destroy the pyramid, it would, but it would also likely result in half the Championship going under from overstretching themselves

The super league will be here within 5 years and the top tiers of English football will be realigned

 

[Blade59]

The scary thing is that 2 of last years promoted teams were previously well established premiere league teams with good infrastructure in terms of academy, training facilities etc, yet were still miles of putting up a realistic challenge to stay up. I would expect both to be challenging top 2 next season in the championship. Ipswich could go either way but if they are sensible will not be far off.

Of the 3 going up I can only see Leeds potentially making a fist of it as they can hurt teams the way they play. However to counter that unless they spend serious on replacing the goalkeeper and most of the defence I can see a lot of high scoring losses.

 

[jt64]

Similar to the "Champions League" that doesn't include Champions

Not really, no

 

[BerksBlade]

Those poor old promoted clubs are only getting 200 million pounds and becoming richer than the vast majority of most clubs in every other top 5 league in Europe
The problem isn't the gap it's mismanagement as seen recently by us under Hecky, Leicester and Southampton,the season just gone
Sign crap expect too go down recruit properly and have proper manager then you can expect a chance at becoming a top club lie Bournemouth/Fulham/Forest
The Woe is me is laughable considering promotion gives you a huge opportunity to transform your club look at forest

Forest spent a shitload of money that 1st season - changing almost the entire team - and still only just survived. How many owners are willing to gamble with the future of their clubs to that extent? Ipswich have what I'd call a "proper" manager. They recruited reasonably well (or so they thought). But they were still nowhere near survival.

 

[bornablade]

To give the three promoted clubs some hope I don't think Forest will perform as well next season as this.

European committments could be a problem and they may get dragged into a relegation battle.

 

[JPBrods]

If there's one thing Saturday laid bare it's that this team would have been as bad as last time in the Premier League.

Similar problems in game management, blowing the match late and losing control of a lead, running out of steam, key players not being fit enough for 90 minutes, injuries, and to a team we finished 14 points ahead of. Our record against Leeds, Burnley and Sunderland this season says a lot and Leeds and Burnley would have been our easiest games next season. We've been flat track bullies.

Can rest on the idea we'd strengthen in the summer but fundamentally this team was similar to the side that went up in 22/23. Lots of unconvincing performances along the way with victories won by the sheer brilliance of one or two of our top players in key moments. The end result next season would have played out as last time. If we want to go up and build and thrive we need to build a team that plays with an identity and a structure that controls games and can flex to them akin to the team of 18/19. No superstars then but a system that was golden that built the momentum that carried us to 9th in 19/20. The hit and hope up the pitch we were playing much of the second half on Saturday would never have happened with that side. It's on Wilder and Knill this summer to discover the new version of that because we cannot rely on simply having a handful of better players than 20-odd of the teams we play in the Championship. It ends in disaster either at Wembley or in the Prem the season after.

 

[adamawdhali]

If we’re being completely honest, we wouldn’t have been anywhere near ready for the premier league. Leeds and Burnley will struggle and those two blew teams away all season. We did so well that first season back in the prem because the team had been together so long and knew exactly what they needed to do and where to be. Takes longer than a year to develop that. Plus Kyle walker and maguire will be out of contract in 2026

 

[Stanthemanfan]

Burnley have already lost 1/3 of their successful keeper/central defence combination and the rumours are that the other two are going to agitate for moves. There's a significant chance that they'll do what we did in 2023 and sell their best players before the season starts.

EDIT: I see that Bellingham is trying to force a move away from Sunderland too. What's the point in promotion?

If the gap continues to get wider this will be a regular occurrence

 

[jt64]

Forest spent a shitload of money that 1st season - changing almost the entire team - and still only just survived. How many owners are willing to gamble with the future of their clubs to that extent?

You do realise that they had 7386784 players on loan in that Championship season prior and needed to change the entire team regardless? And you do also realise that if you buy a player for, say, £10 million, he doesn't become instantly worthless if you get relegated straight away?

 

[Nick Jansky]

To give the three promoted clubs some hope I don't think Forest will perform as well next season as this.

European committments could be a problem and they may get dragged into a relegation battle.

I’ve been thinking this, too. There’s every chance they will lose some of their better players this summer.

 

[dsr-burnley]

One problem Burnley have is that four of our players last year were loans with obligation to buy - Flemming, Antony, Edwards, Humphries. That's £40m spent just to stand still.

 

[Sithblade]

Decent analysis here, and the historical data of 3 promoted all going back down has dramatically changed from a rare occurrence to how it is now.