Fucking rubbish Wilder

[Zero dark thirty]

Oooooh, the worst thing about losing nowadays is threads like this. Some of you can..not..wait!!
We lost by one goal, away from home against a top 10 team.
What do you want to apologise for??
We blew it, it happens. We're on a ONE match losing streak, and these Wilder haters get to annihilate the club for another few days now

Yeah but basically a 2 nil away win is a massacre

 

[bladesmanluke]

Hecky. Make the call COH

Deluded

 

[Houston_Blade]

Yeah but basically a 2 nil away win is a massacre

Bore off piggy

 

[The Crab]

Sheffield United - Wilder: 'Only got ourselves to blame' - BBC Sounds

Sheffield United manager Chris Wilder after the 3-2 defeat away to Preston North End.

www.bbc.co.uk

Not taking any responsibility then. I’m assuming the half time team talk wasn’t “go out and play like a bunch of absolute wankers” because that’s what the players did.

Has he ever?

 

[LBA_Blade]

Hecky. Make the call COH

Why would Hecky want to move? He has taken his side from relegation candidates and developed a team that are currently sat in the playoffs. Depending how the season goes there could be 2 divisions between our sides. Although Hecky isn’t a top tier manager he certainly knows the championship and it would take some effort to get him back after his last stint being scapegoated to the world media.

 

[The Crab]

Why would Hecky want to move? He has taken his side from relegation candidates and developed a team that are currently sat in the playoffs. Depending how the season goes there could be 2 divisions between our sides. Although Hecky isn’t a top tier manager he certainly knows the championship and it would take some effort to get him back after his last stint being scapegoated to the world media.

I think the comment was tongue in cheek mate.

I don’t see any scenario where Hecky comes back here. He hasn’t got the emotional ties to us that wilder has

 

[wavy-blade]

Fuck me listen to some of you , we’ve just won 2 , it should have been 3-3 , Preston are a good side , we couldn’t even score a goal before Chris came back , fuck knows why he did looking at some of the comments.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Before he came we were getting battered, there’s improvement there. This isn’t his squad, we signed 11/12 players over the summer.

Wilder would have built a better squad than what we’ve currently got. That’s just a fact, he’s a very good championship manager when it comes to signings.

Unfortunately the stupidity of what happened over the summer is what he’s dealing with. We just need to stay up and rebuild next year like Coventry and Boro have

 

[RecordBreakers]

Before he came we were getting battered, there’s improvement there. This isn’t his squad, we signed 11/12 players over the summer.

Wilder would have built a better squad than what we’ve currently got. That’s just a fact, he’s a very good championship manager when it comes to signings.

Unfortunately the stupidity of what happened over the summer is what he’s dealing with. We just need to stay up and rebuild next year like Coventry and Boro have

You don't need loads of money to get promoted from this division but you do need to be clever with your signings like u say and build a solid team. Completely agree with the summer what happened in them 3 months has totally ruined the years of progression that we'd made it's absolute madness how they went about their business.

 

[Eric_Brooks]

Couldn’t believe he kept Riedewald on for as long as he did. Absolutely knackered after 50 minutes. Genuinely cost us.

Thought he was goosed after 30 mins

 

[ekke287]

There’s definitely positives and negatives to the game overall, some are easy to fix with others taking time.

Look at this game last year, we won with a deflection and a piece of Hamer magic, with a much stronger squad.

This season the league is very plateaued, no game is an on paper win and teams like Preston are good at consistency. We’re not, which is to be expected following our piss about start to the season.

Positives - Soumare is looking good, COH is back to his best and Campbell seems to be improving. Burrows looks off it still but improving with game time. Tanganga looked more assured on the right at times, despite his OG.

Negatives - Cooper, I’m worried about him this season and he looks like he needs a break although this is impossible. Shots from distance (their first and others throughout the game) he doesn’t look assured. The OG is unexpected but again he seemed to be out of position relative to the ball if that makes sense (maybe it doesn’t!).

Ogbene seemed quiet and timid at times, and Peck was steady if not at his best.

Cannon, I just don’t know what the deal is here. He’s way off it and always two or three steps behind play. Ings is the same but has less mobility, so isn’t devoid of blame but the expectation is lower. Cannon coming on is basically like saying we’ve got nothing to offer, so we need options in January. I’d personally loan him out if we can get a suitable replacement, like a forward who we can at least depend on to add a couple of goals and hold up play (basically a KM type lol).

Wilder - Shell shocked with no plan B in response to two quick fire goals either side of half time. We never settled or seemed to get a rhythm, with his answer being to bring on more forwards, decreasing the service to them and thereby reducing the threat. He’s got to adapt to these events and have some reactionary plans, as this happens in football. He’s not said to Tanganga to go and score in his own goal but these things happen. We were on top first half and then our dicks disappeared on their first.

Mental strength is not some left wing woke bollocks, it makes men physically respond to situations based on their perceived emotional attachment to them, and it needs addressing. It has for a long time. We are weak minded and terrified of conceding, and we shouldn’t be, that’s part of the game.

Wilder seems to ignore this elephant in the room though and persist with the just fight harder mentality, when some of players need to win their inner battles first.

 

[LBA_Blade]

Fuck me listen to some of you , we’ve just won 2 , it should have been 3-3 , Preston are a good side , we couldn’t even score a goal before Chris came back , fuck knows why he did looking at some of the comments.

Should but wasn’t is the biggest problem. We need some serious thinking and work on our defence and a formation that fits the players. We have shown at times that we can be a good side but not consistently enough to deserve the win. Realistically a confident promotion side (this year Cov) are going to Preston thinking they will get the win. As soon as we conceded our confidence drops. We did enough to win the game yesterday on the pitch but didn’t because of being unfit and low on confidence. The major advantage we have is we have beaten sides that are in the bottom half of the league, that’s all we need to keep doing and it will be enough to keep us up. But next season will be a bigger challenge with whoever drops into the league and we are likely to get a couple of ok sides back in the Championship.

 

[Broomhall Blade]

Oooooh, the worst thing about losing nowadays is threads like this. Some of you can..not..wait!!
We lost by one goal, away from home against a top 10 team.
What do you want to apologise for??
We blew it, it happens. We're on a ONE match losing streak, and these Wilder haters get to annihilate the club for another few days now

I agree but you did conveniently forget to put We lost by one goal despite leading 2-0, they might be a top 10 team but they are not very good.
Wilder again showing his limitations by blowing a lead just like the play offs, when a side gets a boost like a disallowed goal or a goal back to get some momentum he hasn't a clue how to counter act that.
My problem with him coming back we will not go down but he will not get us up and definitely no chance of keeping us up. So at some stage we have to start rebuilding again to move forward,
Which knowing Royston Vasey United and some of our fans we'll get Heckingbottom back.

 

[BalticBlade]

Not sure what the HT team talk was but it didn't work

Same as the half time team talk at Wembley in the play off final. "Roll over and die in the second half, lads!"

 

[54yrblade]

There’s definitely positives and negatives to the game overall, some are easy to fix with others taking time.

Look at this game last year, we won with a deflection and a piece of Hamer magic, with a much stronger squad.

This season the league is very plateaued, no game is an on paper win and teams like Preston are good at consistency. We’re not, which is to be expected following our piss about start to the season.

Positives - Soumare is looking good, COH is back to his best and Campbell seems to be improving. Burrows looks off it still but improving with game time. Tanganga looked more assured on the right at times, despite his OG.

Negatives - Cooper, I’m worried about him this season and he looks like he needs a break although this is impossible. Shots from distance (their first and others throughout the game) he doesn’t look assured. The OG is unexpected but again he seemed to be out of position relative to the ball if that makes sense (maybe it doesn’t!).

Ogbene seemed quiet and timid at times, and Peck was steady if not at his best.

Cannon, I just don’t know what the deal is here. He’s way off it and always two or three steps behind play. Ings is the same but has less mobility, so isn’t devoid of blame but the expectation is lower. Cannon coming on is basically like saying we’ve got nothing to offer, so we need options in January. I’d personally loan him out if we can get a suitable replacement, like a forward who we can at least depend on to add a couple of goals and hold up play (basically a KM type lol).

Wilder - Shell shocked with no plan B in response to two quick fire goals either side of half time. We never settled or seemed to get a rhythm, with his answer being to bring on more forwards, decreasing the service to them and thereby reducing the threat. He’s got to adapt to these events and have some reactionary plans, as this happens in football. He’s not said to Tanganga to go and score in his own goal but these things happen. We were on top first half and then our dicks disappeared on their first.

Mental strength is not some left wing woke bollocks, it makes men physically respond to situations based on their perceived emotional attachment to them, and it needs addressing. It has for a long time. We are weak minded and terrified of conceding, and we shouldn’t be, that’s part of the game.

Wilder seems to ignore this elephant in the room though and persist with the just fight harder mentality, when some of players need to win their inner battles first.

When CW talks about a 'proper Sheffield United performance' your post hits the reality on the head. We aren't capable of that right now and when he's talking of it, he's referencing the 2016 onwards version of his sides.

The ones that did wonderfully well, until that away game at Leiceser in his first PL stint. 'Not me guv .... they're league 1 standard' to paraphrase.

He doesn't have a plan B and is incapable of really positive in game changes.

I get he's picking up where Selles left off, but the mentality and clear fitness issues were there last season and there's an argument to be made that neither he nor the club has recovered from our first PL battering under him when he left. We are also still very much in the legacy period of the wasted PL monies on Brewster, Oli Mc and now Cannon.

Until those two issues are addressed, he'll roll out the same clichés in his pressers.

Just one 'that's on me and Alan' or 'we got that wrong' would show some ownership and humility.

 

[Brian Blessed]

That’s one hell of a positive spin after throwing away a 2-0 lead at Preston!

2 wins in 3, averaging 2 points a game. That's automatic promotion form!

 

[Montymagic]

Oooooh, the worst thing about losing nowadays is threads like this. Some of you can..not..wait!!
We lost by one goal, away from home against a top 10 team.
What do you want to apologise for??
We blew it, it happens. We're on a ONE match losing streak, and these Wilder haters get to annihilate the club for another few days now

Against a team outside the top ten.

They are now only in the top ten after beating our shower of shit.

 

[Grey Blade]

Oooooh, the worst thing about losing nowadays is threads like this. Some of you can..not..wait!!
We lost by one goal, away from home against a top 10 team.
What do you want to apologise for??
We blew it, it happens. We're on a ONE match losing streak, and these Wilder haters get to annihilate the club for another few days now

Too much euphoria when we win. Tantrums and animosity when we lose. Can't we have more balance and less knee jerking?

 

[Loco Blade]

And controlling the game

Not sure we ever controlled the game just exploited their high press. When Preston sat deep they could cope as defensively they were better than us .

 

[Nick Jansky]

Too much euphoria when we win. Tantrums and animosity when we lose. Can't we have more balance and less knee jerking?

A big part of the problem is that we still have a manager who polarises the support. We are far from united as a fanbase, and we won’t be until we eventually get a manager who everyone rallies around.

This isn’t a dig at either side of the Wilder argument, it’s simply telling it as I see it.

 

[Aston max]

Will you own it?

No he won't !! I honestly can't remember a game where he stood and took full blame for anything other than loving the praise when it goes right. Did I want him back "no" but whilst he's in charge I'll grudgingly back him . Because hopefully he'll settle things down and get us comfortably back in mid table.
I just hope our owners are actively looking for a replacement ( maybe not this season) but for next may/June. Plus a DOF!!
I'll probably get pelters for this comment but our club needs a complete reset from top to bottom and the culture of blady bladeness gone .
I think Ruben suffered from the "chris wouldn't have done it thus way " which was his ultimate downfall.

 

[Nick Jansky]

No he won't !! I honestly can't remember a game where he stood and took full blame for anything other than loving the praise when it goes right. Did I want him back "no" but whilst he's in charge I'll grudgingly back him . Because hopefully he'll settle things down and get us comfortably back in mid table.
I just hope our owners are actively looking for a replacement ( maybe not this season) but for next may/June. Plus a DOF!!
I'll probably get pelters for this comment but our club needs a complete reset from top to bottom and the culture of blady bladeness gone .
I think Ruben suffered from the "chris wouldn't have done it thus way " which was his ultimate downfall.

I said at the time that whoever came in immediately after Wilder mk2 was on a hiding to nothing, and would have been whoever it was. The fact that a bad decision was made with the replacement has set us back even further. Now, we will have it all to go through again next time Wilder goes, which he obviously will. It’s all a bit of a car crash at the moment.

 

[Shawy24]

Chrisseh! It is really as simple as ABC if you don’t want to fuck up. Anyone But Cannon.

 

[FriethBlade]

Won 3 lost 4 in the league since he came back. So 9 pts from 7 games, extrapolate that out and its high 50s over the season. Which with this squad I guess is pretty much where we are at. However we havent played many of the top teams in that period so we have to hope we can step it up a bit in November and December and then use the window to strengthen.

Hes back whether people like it not so we need to get behind the team and hope the owners will back him in January. As many have pointed out if hed not been sacked we'd have had the likes of Dunne, Darling and McBurnie in the squad and almost certainly be in the top half. A defence of Dunne, Darling, Tanganga and Burrows would be a lot more solid than what we have now and I'm sure McB and Campbell up front would have resulted in more goals.