Forest bid for MGW

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Have him, he’s shite. Losses the ball far to often, misses lots of chances, selfish to the point everyone else is out of game, mememememe. Good riddance.

Nice lad though, livens a game up.
 



Nagima said:
That seems to be the way these days on forums. Players are shit or brilliant depending on what side you are on with regard to particular players. And often without facts or reasoned judgement involved in making the opinion.
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I don't think it's necessarily people thinking Rice is shit, it is more that their thoughts on valuation of players are caught 20 years behind the times, look at what Rice is (more or less correctly) valued at, and then translate overpriced to shit. See also most of Wilder's later signings
 
FallowfieldBlade said:
Yes that would be them , the team who has never been relegated and will move into a 50k stadium in a couple of years
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Apologies
I’d overlooked the additional points that a (10k) large(r) stadium (in 2024) & an ‘unblemished’ top flight (excepting 1930 & 1951)record accrue.

Far outweighs winning Sweet Fuck All in > a quarter of a century during which time Wigan, Pompey, Brum, Smoggies, Swansea Blackburn, et al have lifted a ‘pot’
Or indeed spunking vast amounts on decent players who then go on to under- achieve @ “ the school of science”
Or, even, habitually, hiring & firing gaffers as if they were on zero hours contracts

THAT Everton?🤔
 
Pedro Verde said:
Southampton are also said to be interested
His other option is stopping at Wolves apparently they want him to sign an improved contarct
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As above by PV, my brother who lives in Exeter told me this last week. He says it's been on the (South coast!) rumour mill for a while!. Soton (supposedly) initially offered £10million, then increased to £12mill!?

Would have liked to have got him back at The Lane, but reality is quite often a 'kick in the teeth' when you're a Blade
 
BladesNo9 said:
As above by PV, my brother who lives in Exeter told me this last week. He says it's been on the (South coast!) rumour mill for a while!. Soton (supposedly) initially offered £10million, then increased to £12mill!?

Would have liked to have got him back at The Lane, but reality is quite often a 'kick in the teeth' when you're a Blade
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Wolves would be daft to sell him for that, or, for that matter, to sell him at all. He may not be a starter for them next season and if they don't feel he'd get into the match day 18, then why not send him out on loan to a Prem club? Unless of course then need the money in order to fund another raid on the Portuguese league.
 
Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn said:
Apologies
I’d overlooked the additional points that a (10k) large(r) stadium (in 2024) & an ‘unblemished’ top flight (excepting 1930 & 1951)record accrue.

Far outweighs winning Sweet Fuck All in > a quarter of a century during which time Wigan, Pompey, Brum, Smoggies, Swansea Blackburn, et al have lifted a ‘pot’
Or indeed spunking vast amounts on decent players who then go on to under- achieve @ “ the school of science”
Or, even, habitually, hiring & firing gaffers as if they were on zero hours contracts

THAT Everton?🤔
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For MGW's career moving to Everton over forest would be much better for him

I raise you Brewster/Berge/Bogle for young up and coming players who's careers have progressed nowhere after moving to newly promoted teams
 
jt64 said:
I don't think it's necessarily people thinking Rice is shit, it is more that their thoughts on valuation of players are caught 20 years behind the times, look at what Rice is (more or less correctly) valued at, and then translate overpriced to shit. See also most of Wilder's later signings
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Fair enough point there.
I do think that it's not just fans who err on valuations of players. I am not sure what Wilder and our scouts were doing in assessing the players we bought.

McBurnie.
Brewster.
Freeman
Callum Robinson
Jack Robinson. (Give him credit for improving).
Burke.
Berge.
Mousset.

Every one of them have glaring weaknesses in particular areas of the game that the scouts should have been aware of. We took alot of risks and put the finances of the club in jeopardy. Are any of them worth what we paid for them. Mostly no. So Rice is worth alot in comparison to those and less so to other players.
 
FallowfieldBlade said:
For MGW's career moving to Everton over forest would be much better for him

I raise you Brewster/Berge/Bogle for young up and coming players who's careers have progressed nowhere after moving to newly promoted teams
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Realise I’m your (today’s) ‘low hanging fruit but after 4 days of ‘Betty Empire’ fawning I’m beyond caring
Franklampardsevertonchelseacounty or West Ham was your ‘career advice’
I’m not & never have advocated MGW going to Forest merely that one of your ‘options’ was / is not much cop either
Not sure why -SUFC’s fuck ups are especially relevant
Final ‘bite’(for now), you include Berge but not Ollie McB 🤔
 
Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn said:
Realise I’m your (today’s) ‘low hanging fruit but after 4 days of ‘Betty Empire’ fawning I’m beyond caring
Franklampardsevertonchelseacounty or West Ham was your ‘career advice’
I’m not & never have advocated MGW going to Forest merely that one of your ‘options’ was / is not much cop either
Not sure why -SUFC’s fuck ups are especially relevant
Final ‘bite’(for now), you include Berge but not Ollie McB 🤔
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I was just saying players who are great in the championship find it much harder in the prem he would genuinely be better staying with us or a similar team because playing as an attacking player in a team that will have barely any possession and far less attacking threat than in the championship is a bad idea for an attacking player such as MGW

Hed be better of going to a palace/Everton etc than a newly promoted team who will more than likely get relegated

You can add mcburnie to that also , all our signing were great on paper you put them in a team fighting for their lives its a different kettle of fish
 
Wapping Blade said:
Forest are going to lose half their team, goalie wants out and loaners looking elsewhere. They could be fucked.
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You used to have to pay 3 quid a minute to hear filth like that.

Keeper wants out so they're looking at Pope but Burnley allegedly touting a 40million price tag for him. They'd probably get him for a lot less but still a significant chunk so should probably look elsewhere. Just to tie down key loans as permanents and keep the team they had last year could cost them 40 million. A new keeper required and possibly new striker. That 90 million suddenly has to stretch a long way.
 
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mcbladeface said:
You used to have to pay 3 quid a minute to hear filth like that.

Keeper wants out so they're looking at Pope but Burnley allegedly touting a 40million price tag for him. They'd probably get him for a lot less but still a significant chunk so should probably look elsewhere. Just to tie down key loans as permanents and keep the team they had last year could cost them 40 million. A new keeper required and possibly new striker. That 90 million suddenly has to stretch a long way.
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Their owner is very wealthy. PL clubs are allowed to lose about £35m a year under FFP. If you deduct the losses they’re allowed to make from things like youth teams, and add a bit that he can put in through legitimate sponsorship deals, I reckon they could spend closer to £150m if he’s prepared to invest.
 
BushBlade said:
Their owner is very wealthy. PL clubs are allowed to lose about £35m a year under FFP. If you deduct the losses they’re allowed to make from things like youth teams, and add a bit that he can put in through legitimate sponsorship deals, I reckon they could spend closer to £150m if he’s prepared to invest.
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But if they go straight down then they only get 2 years parachute payments. That would be one hell of a gamble as they will need to meet efl rules.
 
As wealthy as he may be, it all comes down to how much he is willing to risk. He's supposedly said he'll spend 100 million but the source of that quote is a bit murky and some versions of it imply he said he'd offer it up as advance of the sky money. A lot no doubt but still not quite as eye watering.

As mobileblade says, its a big risk to spend that much should they then go straight back down again, especially when a big chunk of the spend is taken up simply tying down the current side before they even get to any upgrades. Theyre not exactly building a squad round a grealish like Villa were (though cooper is a lot better than smith so there is that).

Youd think the best bet would be to secure a good side, that if nothing else would be a good champ side and then re-evaluate again with investment come january if survival looks likely. Not a good window to build in though.
 
MobileBlade said:
But if they go straight down then they only get 2 years parachute payments. That would be one hell of a gamble as they will need to meet efl rules.
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Yeah. They could put some clauses in contracts though, wage reduction but low release fee, like the clause we gave Jags. Villa took a similar gamble when they went up, spent a lot of money but they had the back up of knowing they could cash in on Grealish if they had to. Which they eventually did anyway.
Forest’s owner also owns a club in Greece, so if they went down he could just get his other club to buy some of their players to balance the books. It’s never easy for any promoted club but I think the idea that they’re nailed on for relegation is a bit premature.
 
Having looked into this guys history I would expect him to know most of the tricks required to “ balance the books”.
 
BushBlade said:
Yeah. They could put some clauses in contracts though, wage reduction but low release fee, like the clause we gave Jags. Villa took a similar gamble when they went up, spent a lot of money but they had the back up of knowing they could cash in on Grealish if they had to. Which they eventually did anyway.
Forest’s owner also owns a club in Greece, so if they went down he could just get his other club to buy some of their players to balance the books. It’s never easy for any promoted club but I think the idea that they’re nailed on for relegation is a bit premature.
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I dont think they are at all. They have a far better manager than both of the other promoted clubs and theres other teams with dubious form in the PL who could be pulled into a scrap again very easily and fill up relegation spots.

I just dont think theyre quite this reawoken giant thats about to storm the league. I'd be surprised if they did what Brentford did.
 
mcbladeface said:
I dont think they are at all. They have a far better manager than both of the other promoted clubs and theres other teams with dubious form in the PL who could be pulled into a scrap again very easily and fill up relegation spots.

I just dont think theyre quite this reawoken giant thats about to storm the league. I'd be surprised if they did what Brentford did.
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Nor do I. Staying up would be a big achievement. I assumed that you agreed with Wapping’s comments about them being fucked. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love it if they were, twats. But football has a habit of disappointing me, like seeing Leeds stay up. Also twats.
 
mcbladeface said:
As wealthy as he may be, it all comes down to how much he is willing to risk. He's supposedly said he'll spend 100 million but the source of that quote is a bit murky
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It depends on what that 100 million is spent on really. If they spend 20 million on three players giving them each 60 grand a week for four years, then that's budgeting close to that spending - but it does not all immediately disappear out of the accounts with zero hope of recouping shutting anything if things go tits up
 
BushBlade said:
Yeah. They could put some clauses in contracts though, wage reduction but low release fee, like the clause we gave Jags. Villa took a similar gamble when they went up, spent a lot of money but they had the back up of knowing they could cash in on Grealish if they had to. Which they eventually did anyway.
Forest’s owner also owns a club in Greece, so if they went down he could just get his other club to buy some of their players to balance the books. It’s never easy for any promoted club but I think the idea that they’re nailed on for relegation is a bit premature.
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He owns olympiakos that are after Baldock
 
broomhillblade said:
Why are Blades fans getting excited/upset about MGW's future? He's not our player. Never has been.
Move on.
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Speaking for myself I'm neither excited or upset.

Getting him back on any basis was always going to be a big ask. I'm pretty certain in a couple of years or so we're going to be saying "fucking hell he played for us".

What I don't want to see is him signing for those fuckers and improving them. I want to see them have the sort of season that Barnsley or Derby had.
 
Greg. said:
lol, they still are a bit deluded:

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The worst case is that he signs for Spurs and plays for them, not giving a fuck about Forest. I could be Nottingham born and bred, Forest fan all my life, Brian Clough’s great nephew and a direct descendant of the Sheriff of Nottingham and I’d still fuck ‘em off and sign for Spurs.
 



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