For those who think keeping NC was the answer.

[nowtfancy]

OK, I'll have a go at this one.
1. You had too much to drink on New Year's Eve 2009 and couldn't focus properly the next day?
2. You lost most of your strength in a freak temporary viral infection rendering the season ticket too heavy?
3. Someone smeared it in olive oil while you weren't looking?

very good, but from a football perspective, it could have included (sorry dont know how to do the 'spoilers' trick so look away now if you are easily offended)


4. Nyron Nosworthy

 

[derryblade]

Whatever happened to coaches and managers who could work with a squad of footballers, train and motivate them even though they aren't "his own player". Is it a modern phenomenon that every manager can't possibly be judged until he has a full team of "his own players". NA has brought in five players, are we actually to believe that out of a squad of 30+ he cant find six players out of that lot to produce better results than he is doing. Personally I have no interest in what NC is doing, I am more concerned that NA is seriously underachieving. We can blame lack of investment, disruptive players, bad luck whatever but NA has to take a good deal of responsibility for how this season is panning out.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Mmmm, missing the point there I think ST

The play off contenders bit?

 

[Sean Thornton]

Burton are very lucky Gillingham and Walsall have hit a brick wall at the same time.

So they can have a bad patch but if Burton do its Cloughs doing? Is everyone below BA very lucky because they had a poor spell?

 

[Sean Thornton]

very good, but from a football perspective, it could have included (sorry dont know how to do the 'spoilers' trick so look away now if you are easily offended)


4. Nyron Nosworthy

Aargh , every time I think I'm out, somebody drags me back in.......

 

[Sothall_Blade]

So he takes a team riding high at the top and turns them into play-off contenders.
Not the strongest argument you've ever put forward SB

They've got worse, no doubt about it. I don't follow Burton closely enough to know why that is.
Maybe they've had injuries to key players? Maybe they had easier fixtures at the start of the season?
Maybe they were a surprise package and other teams have worked out how to combat them?
Maybe the same would have happened under JFH?

The plain fact is that they have still shown play-off form overall under Clough, which contradicts your original post.

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

The play off contenders bit?

Ahhh, the play-off contenders should perhaps have said 'the equivalent' of a play-ff contender.
Though if the next 10 games go the way of the last, that's probably what they'll become

 

[Fulwood Blade]

The generous applause given to Clough by the greater majority of the crowd, coupled with no boos (from South Stand) tells me everything about what Clough did and didn't leave us. The greater majority were happy - and probably wanted him to have another year - excluding the "noisy minority".

Don't give a fuck what he does with Burton, although EVERY others clubs ineptitude means who ever does finish top 2 will have had a pretty average season - we all knew it was a crap league and nothing so far has altered that.

My biggest gripe with Adkins - he said the squad wasn't good enough and said everyone would get a chance - fucking suicidal decision and it could end his management career, not only with us, but will damage the good work he did at Scunthorpe and Southampton for future employment.

I really can't see why he has been so naïve.

As for the opening post - THIS SEASON at SUFC has clearly showed why Clough should have stayed - it might have been boring 4-5-1, it might have been 1 nils (and just as a reminder - Burton Albion, 21 1 nil wins this season according to Adkins), but we would (IMHO) have definitely been top 6 and considering how crap the division is, should have been top 2.

The folly (with hindsight) was getting rid - some of you seem to want to do it all again...............and probably next year.

Chrissy Wilder isn't even here (if it happens at all) yet some are already going down the route of criticising. Just amazes me at times.

UTB

 

[pommpey]

I'm not sure what the question was Pomps.

The question was framed as should we have kept Cluff.

Being as his team is currently doing better than his former team, I'd say yes, we should have kept him. Whether McCabe would have supported his ambitions is another matter.

pommpey

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

They've got worse, no doubt about it. I don't follow Burton closely enough to know why that is.
Maybe they've had injuries to key players? Maybe they had easier fixtures at the start of the season?
Maybe they were a surprise package and other teams have worked out how to combat them?
Maybe the same would have happened under JFH?

The plain fact is that they have still shown play-off form overall under Clough, which contradicts your original post.

Fair do's on the overall performance (adding in 4 wins from his first 5 matches) however, look at S O'D when he took over at Walsall. He won 4 of the first 5 and look what happened there.

 

[Bladesway]

Burton's last 10 games: Won 4, Drawn 2, Lost 4.
Over a season, that would equate to about 64 points.
Not even enough for the play-offs.
Just saying like.

Yawn fucking yawn. We sacked him yet he ended up managing a team top of the table while we slide backwards. It says everything about us an absolutely nothing about Clough.

What i will say once more is that while we argue over whether we should sack the manager we keep going backwards no matter who is in charge. Tells me we keep sacking the wring people but the people who are most to blame keep their jobs and carry on regardless.

Keep Adkins and give him another tilt at promotion next season. Sack him and you may as well kiss goodbye to another season in League One without challenging for promotion.

Oh and if we dont clear out the shit from the dressing room when contracts expire then Adkins immediately comes under more pressure. The chance for change is now.

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

The question was framed as should we have kept Cluff.

Being as his team is currently doing better than his former team, I'd say yes, we should have kept him. Whether McCabe would have supported his ambitions is another matter.

pommpey

Oh Pomps,
The only reason 'his' team is doing better than ours is because JFH left him with it.
Yes I thoroughly enjoyed being at some stonkingly good cup events, but equally hated watching a complete no-show at Yeovil after they'd lost about 8 on the trot.

 

[boo radley]

Clough is the only one to make progress in this shitty division. At the moment adkins is heading for the one to have made least.

 

[Bartleby]

and our is W3 D3 L4
so clough is better

that's cos we have the squad he built and he has the one JFH built - but to be fair he is turning it around

 

[pommpey]

Oh Pomps,
The only reason 'his' team is doing better than ours is because JFH left him with it.
Yes I thoroughly enjoyed being at some stonkingly good cup events, but equally hated watching a complete no-show at Yeovil after they'd lost about 8 on the trot.

But Burton haven't a chairman who seels his players from under him and bullshits about what he promised on his arrival.

Do you think McCabe would keep or shred the Burton squad? Yeah, the playing surface and pie-shop would be top line, mind. But out on the pitch it would be Subbuteo.

pommpey

 

[Jostein's Bandage]

To be fair, nobody expected Burton to do anything. Their current form is about what would be expected when the season started. We were favourites to win the league and we're 12th.

 

[Lane Ender]

They are nine points clear with 11 to play. I think they'll scrape up in 2nd, just because no one seems to be able to put a run together

I will stand by what i said Dkc.
If Im wrong quote me at the end of the season.

 

[Lane Ender]

Clough is the only one to make progress in this shitty division. At the moment adkins is heading for the one to have made least.

What about Wilson then

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Fair do's on the overall performance (adding in 4 wins from his first 5 matches) however, look at S O'D when he took over at Walsall. He won 4 of the first 5 and look what happened there.

Quite. O'Driscoll's overall form equates to 66 points. Not good enough for the play-offs.
So it's not that easy to take over a small over-achieving club and keep them at the top of the table then?

 

[Treeton Blade]

 

[boo radley]

What about Wilson then

Explain how wilson made progress when he failed in a play off final and the next season only just made the playoffs. ( yes i include Morgan games).
Ultimately it was not his fault as always it is down to this crap Chaiman who in any other business would be long gone.

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

Quite. O'Driscoll's overall form equates to 66 points. Not good enough for the play-offs.
So it's not that easy to take over a small over-achieving club and keep them at the top of the table then?

About as easy as taking over a large under-achieving club by the looks of the last 5 or 6 years SB!!

 

[Lane Ender]

Explain how wilson made progress when he failed in a play off final and the next season only just made the playoffs. ( yes i include Morgan games).
Ultimately it was not his fault as always it is down to this crap Chaiman who in any other business would be long gone.

His first season we should have gone up the Ched saga did us.
Should not have been sacked most of squad gone from the previous season then the Blackman bollocks what could he do.

 

[nopigfansintown]

But Burton haven't a chairman who seels his players from under him and bullshits about what he promised on his arrival.

Do you think McCabe would keep or shred the Burton squad? Yeah, the playing surface and pie-shop would be top line, mind. But out on the pitch it would be Subbuteo.

pommpey

They've recently sold a key player to QPR, Al Khayati . Agree with your general points though.

 

[yorkshirecoast]

The football under both Clough and Adkins has been abysmal. Negative, boring and slow. Under Adkins we can also add soft as sh!t to that list.

For a Sheffield United team to play this way in L1 is unacceptable.

 

[mosbolad]

Who's at the top?

Who's mid table?

I think that provides the answer.

pommpey

Who can't be at the top and mid table?

 

[Ashtonsmashton]

Burton's last 10 games: Won 4, Drawn 2, Lost 4.
Over a season, that would equate to about 64 points.
Not even enough for the play-offs.
Just saying like.

Clough last season, playoffs.
Adkins this season, mid table
Wilson, chance of winning the league if he won 2 of the remaining 4.

Sacking Wilson was the problem.

 

[boo radley]

His first season we should have gone up the Ched saga did us.
Should not have been sacked most of squad gone from the previous season then the Blackman bollocks what could he do.

Please explain why you are repeating my post?

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

His first season we should have gone up the Ched saga did us.
Should not have been sacked most of squad gone from the previous season then the Blackman bollocks what could he do.

Please explain why you are repeating boo radley's post?

 

[Lane Ender]

Please explain why you are repeating my post?

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