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The timing of the sacking of Blackwell was the beginning of an act of suicide for Sheffield United. The chairman and board of this club had a profound and deep level understanding of this and the fans of this club had a profound and unconscious level of understanding of this also. We went along with and subsequently participated in the self-destruction of our football club. The player’s apathy towards relegation has been notable along with that of some fans. Myself included on occasions. The fear and reality is that it is perhaps too late for a rally. This might be so, but it won’t stop me giving every ounce of support to the club I love regardless of the position we are in or what division we start in next season.
We’ll never be mastered...
 



Blackwell should have been replaced in the summer. Instead we wasted a whole pre season leaving the players shrugging shoulders and saying "what do we do now?"

This season has just followed on from last, we have progressed......further into regression!! The lessons of last season were simply not learned, or just ignored by McCabe & co who is too tight to do owt about it. He clearly loves his property developing MUCH MUCH more than The Blades.
 
The chairman and board of this club had a profound and deep level understanding of this and the fans of this club had a profound and unconscious level of understanding of this also. We went along with and subsequently participated in the self-destruction of our football club.

No, I've read it five times now and I still don't have a clue what you're on about.

How did "we" go along with the sacking of Blackwell? How would anyone have prevented it if they had wanted to?

Came three months and three games too late.
 
Blackwell's fate was sealed by the chairman and the fans before a ball was kicked. Once the decision was made not to replace him in the summer, he should have been supported. Instead, the news of his sacking was greeted with delight by the majority of fans. His brand of football may have been dull and his interviews frustrating but the players he had to work with have proved to have been even worse than we all thought.

The apathy from fans which has followed has only helped to sustain the downward spiral with the 'meh' mentality prevalent throughout the crowd. Think back to the atmosphere at the last 'must win' home game against Reading. Hardly what Bramall Lane's reputation was built on.

If you offered many people top-six football with Blackwell still in charge in exchange for where we are now, I dare say many would refuse to swap.
 
Blackwell's fate was sealed by the chairman and the fans before a ball was kicked. Once the decision was made not to replace him in the summer, he should have been supported. Instead, the news of his sacking was greeted with delight by the majority of fans.

While fans were glad to see him go, I feel the majority were left bewildered at the timing of it all.

If you offered many people top-six football with Blackwell still in charge in exchange for where we are now, I dare say many would refuse to swap.

Ah, but there you are, we were never pushing for top 6 last season, nor would we have been this season.
 
I'd rather 10 years in League 1 than suffer another season under Blackwell. Something we might well get :)
 
Yet were we sat here with Blackwell still in charge and the hopeless bunch of nancy boys on the pitch still underperforming, we'd be slating McCabe for not getting rid of him a couple of games into the season.
 
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!

talk about forgetting the past! does no one remeber how terrible it was under Blackwell? isnt it amazing how quickly people forget.

WHy not get Tonge back? i bet he could do a job?

Jordan Stewart maybe?

Peoples memory are that bad that some people were willing nosworthy to be back to fitness!

Get a grip lads and lets get behind the CURRENT team and the CURRENT manager, and look forwards.
 
If Blackwell was still in charge the club would be in a worse state than it is now...possibly not on the pitch (though that is highly debatable), but certainly off it.
Many fans had lost faith and wanted him out. 5,000 walked away last year, including fans I know who have had season tickets for over 20 years and said they'd had enough of him.
If he was still around it'd be like the last days of Bassett with fighting between fans and car park demos every week. We weren't exactly far off this against QPR, although actually I can't see any situation how Blackwell could still be in charge. It was just a matter of time. Unfortunately the time was 13 months before it happened.

Lets not forget that a lot of these players are player bought by Blackwell, and he also systematically turned decent players into seemingly extremely average ones before getting rid of them at a loss, including players such as Cotterill, Howard, Carney and Sharp, all of whom are playing for clubs higher up than we are, whilst signing some absolute dross.
This isn't a defence of Adams, some of his signings have been just as bad, but I am amazed by some of the comments lately about how if we'd kept Blackwell we'd be much better off and much happier because I just don't believe it.
 
>the players he had to work with have proved to have been even worse than we all thought.
umm .. not here they didn't
 
I reckon we'd certainly be safe in the Championship if Blackwell was here AND had the fans behind him. Unfortunately the only way a majority of fans would've backed him would be with the benefit of hindsight. As for the comment from Wards about being happier with 10 years in League 1 rather than 1 further year under Blackwell, I can understand that notion in terms of being a football fan but it's deeply flawed in terms of business. Therein lies the problem, in my eyes. Today more than ever, Business and Football are, rightly or wrongly, inextricably linked.

Personally, I was prepared to sit it out under Blackwell, maintaining safe Championship status, until the wage structure had been completely remodeled and we could start again. I reckon that was probably McCabe's plan before the apathy associated with shit football set in with the fans. Once the pressure mounted his hand was forced. The only thing I can't understand is, as with many Blades, the timing of his sacking. That goes down as a McCabe mistake for me. He hasn't made many but the few he has made have been catastrophic.
 
The timing of the sacking of Blackwell was the beginning of an act of suicide for Sheffield United. The chairman and board of this club had a profound and deep level understanding of this and the fans of this club had a profound and unconscious level of understanding of this also. We went along with and subsequently participated in the self-destruction of our football club. The player’s apathy towards relegation has been notable along with that of some fans. Myself included on occasions. The fear and reality is that it is perhaps too late for a rally. This might be so, but it won’t stop me giving every ounce of support to the club I love regardless of the position we are in or what division we start in next season.
We’ll never be mastered...

Your post starts off well, but then goes way off the mark. The part highlighted in bold is spot on, but then the rest of the text and your subsequent posts are like Richard Cresswells shooting. The board made the decision to sack Blackwell when they did and should be held responsible for the mess we are in. Them and Blackwell, who built this team full of dross. The fans made it clear they wanted Blackwell out, but even the most critical on here where mythed at the timing of it.

The fans, still 20k of them turning up to get behind their team, have played a role in the demise of the club. Oh yes, the apathy. The apathy of showing their feelings with their feet (5k less season tickets) and all the letters to Birch asking for him rid. Now the Blades fans, at fault for watching this unfold, continue to get behind their team (over a 1000 at Palace, close on 2000 there tonight) despite utterly shcoking performances and not a single win in the dozen games we have played since Christmas.

What did you expect the fans to do? Have a car park protest. Oh, we are all happy as pigs in shit to see the back of KB ..... but we are protesting to say we thought you should have done it 3 months ago. Did you expect us all to turn out after the January Transfer window and have a riot, because the board had not given Adams any money and his signing had been shit? And how do you know people are saying 'meh'. How do you know people are not voicing there concerns? I have written to Birch so many times he is sick of hearing from me.

I actaully think there should be a proest in coming weeks. The board needs to know how we feel and that they are responsible. The broken promises on loans, lack of funds, horrendous timing of the Blackwell decision, Speed debacle, the pathetic situation that unfolded when we went after the fans no 1 choice and our form/team/situation are down to them.
 
i think a protest is a great idea.. make clear it is the board we have beef with .. not MA
 



NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!

talk about forgetting the past! does no one remeber how terrible it was under Blackwell? isnt it amazing how quickly people forget.

WHy not get Tonge back? i bet he could do a job?

Jordan Stewart maybe?

Peoples memory are that bad that some people were willing nosworthy to be back to fitness!

Get a grip lads and lets get behind the CURRENT team and the CURRENT manager, and look forwards.

Yep we should all get a grip because no matter what position we are in it must be better than under Blackwell. Under Blackwell we never got done 4-0 at home against Scunthorpe. Yes thats right Scunthorpe (although of course we were unlucky!). I don't think we ever went on a 10 game streak without winning a game under Blackwell and I don't think we ever went on a run as bad as the one we are on at present.

I remember how bad it was, but no matter how I shake myself I can't think its anything other than worse now than its ever been. Theres some grade A cod being talked here about how Blackwell is the master of this entire debacle just to defend the indefensible. McCabe took Robson on, McCabe sacked Robson, McCabe took Blackwell on and McCabe sacked Blackwell (possibly the worst timed sacking in the history of Sheffield United). McCabe then went cheap again for Speed and Speed left the very minute he realised he didn't have a cat in hells chance with that team. McCabe fell lucky when he actually got cash for Speed from the Welsh FA and what did he do? He took on MA, a man out of his depth in a paddling pool. If one thing may save us its that MA is a League One Manager at best and thats where he is going to get his chance to manage. Look at the team. How many of this team are Blackwell signings?

Finally, and I'll save the best till last some clown thinks its better to be rid of Blackwell and be playing in League One next season. So to sum up, we will be playing a worse standard of football in a worse league and significantly lower revenues coming in but your happy because Blackwells gone. Oh dear.

Sheffield United will go into administration within the next 24 months if we get relegated.

Note : Olle, spot on.

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Lets not forget that a lot of these players are player bought by Blackwell, and he also systematically turned decent players into seemingly extremely average ones before getting rid of them at a loss, including players such as Cotterill, Howard, Carney and Sharp, all of whom are playing for clubs higher up than we are, whilst signing some absolute dross.
This isn't a defence of Adams, some of his signings have been just as bad, but I am amazed by some of the comments lately about how if we'd kept Blackwell we'd be much better off and much happier because I just don't believe it.

Woooooowwwwwww there. I'm a big fan of artistic license but David Carney was shite when he arrived and shite when we sold him, don't rewrite history to suit your own ends. Fact is we shouldn't have sacked Blackwell when we did, we should have done it 3 months earlier. Why the hell did McCabe let him spunk money up the wall, get a creditable draw at Cardiff and then sack him after one bad result at home against QPR (who do top the table after all).

McCabe is the big problem here, not Blackwell, not evern Warnock or Robson or anyone else. Oh and Micky Adams is an innocent bystander. What we shouldn't do is deflect blame away from where its route cause is. If there is protest let it be at the man who has masterminded one of the most cataclysmic demises possible in football, turning a well run club into an absolute shambles inside 3 years. Has he got Peter Risdale advising him?
 
"what did he do? He took on MA, a man out of his depth in a paddling pool. If one thing may save us its that MA is a League One Manager at best and thats where he is going to get his chance to manage. Look at the team. How many of this team are Blackwell signings?"

MICKY ADAMS? OUT OF DEPTH? And you are comparing this guy to Kevin Blackwell who NEVER managed higher than the championship, 2 failed playoffs and luton - f*cking - town. MA has 3 promotions, has managed in the premier league for more years than blackwell has even been a manager and has managed many many clubs. That is a completely rediculous claim. to appoint an ex-luton town manager, who is a fackin' cowkneye' goalkeeper. now that is a man out of his depth.
 
Blackwell was a Patsy for the board. He was complicit in flogging every half-decent player we had while replacing them with whatever was cheap (on loan, if possible). He was the nodding dog in the back window with McCabe in the driving seat. He deserved to be sacked for not having the bollocks to be honest with the fans about what was really going on inside the club. I don't hold a grudge against him; he was set up as the fall guy and it was only a matter of time before he was allowed to fall.

Would we be in our current league position with him still in charge? Maybe, maybe not. During his tenure, did he contribute towards our current decline? Unequivocally, yes!
 
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Woooooowwwwwww there. I'm a big fan of artistic license but David Carney was shite when he arrived and shite when we sold him, don't rewrite history to suit your own ends. Fact is we shouldn't have sacked Blackwell when we did, we should have done it 3 months earlier. Why the hell did McCabe let him spunk money up the wall, get a creditable draw at Cardiff and then sack him after one bad result at home against QPR (who do top the table after all).

McCabe is the big problem here, not Blackwell, not evern Warnock or Robson or anyone else. Oh and Micky Adams is an innocent bystander. What we shouldn't do is deflect blame away from where its route cause is. If there is protest let it be at the man who has masterminded one of the most cataclysmic demises possible in football, turning a well run club into an absolute shambles inside 3 years. Has he got Peter Risdale advising him?[/QUOTE]
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Carney is currently a member of Blackpool's 25-man squad in the Premiership and played in the World Cup. I didn't rate him either, but I'll state again, I believe it's players like Carney who suffered under Blackwell, and why we have been left with a squad devoid of much talent. How many times were players like the ones I mentioned left in the stand or on the bench and then shipped out, to be replaced by Stoke reserves, Tranmere reserves, Barnsley and Hull rejects?

Most fans agree that McCabe and his crazy appointments and timings for Blackwell's removal are the main problem, and yes we probably would be higher in the league if Blackwell had stayed, but my main point still stands, in that if Blackwell was here now the atmosphere would be appalling and we'd be losing a lot more season ticket holders next season.
I'm actually amazed at how well the atmosphere has been maintained considering, and that's partly because most fans believe that this can't be laid at Adams door. Sure he has a few questions to answer, but he isn't the architect of this debacle where as many see Blackwell as being involved in it.
I actually blame Birch more than anyone else personally. Since he arrived we've slipped from top of the Championship to the bottom, sold good players, bought poor ones, lost thousands of fans, signed a lot of 3rd rate loan players on high wages who then leave mid-season and whilst increasing match day tickets and season ticket prices. Not a great CV.
 
I actually blame Birch more than anyone else personally. Since he arrived we've slipped from top of the Championship to the bottom, sold good players, bought poor ones, lost thousands of fans, signed a lot of 3rd rate loan players on high wages who then leave mid-season and whilst increasing match day tickets and season ticket prices. Not a great CV.

I think you're shooting the messenger there. I think he's done exactly what he was told to. The buck stops with McCabe, nobody else.
 
That's true Nick, and you're probably right, and I did state that McCabe is the big problem which of course he is, but I do think Birch has had a lot to do with it, probably under direction from McCabe, but I still think a lot of the operational decisions are down to him. McCabe keeps saying he's not involved as much and that Birch is making the major decisions, so either that's not true or Birch has to take some responsibilty.
 

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