Fine Margins

[JayGreen17]

While ever we’re not scoring or scraping 1-0 wins we’re precariously close to losing games. The 1-0 wins have really papered over our weaknesses in the team, lack of creativity, positivity and a formation that enables us to control games.

How many great performances have we had this season regardless of the wins?

Wilder needs to look at how we’re playing offensively because it’s not working, Hamer out of position for a start needs to be changed and also the players that haven’t been effective, Ohare and Moore need to be dropped.

 

[originaltrueblade]

Thanks to Cooper otherwise it would have been embarrassing

 

[Lane Ender]

While ever we’re not scoring or scraping 1-0 wins we’re precariously close to losing games. The 1-0 wins have really papered over our weaknesses in the team, lack of creativity, positivity and a formation that enables us to control games.

How many great performances have we had this season regardless of the wins?

Wilder needs to look at how we’re playing offensively because it’s not working, Hamer out of position for a start needs to be changed and also the players that haven’t been effective, Ohare and Moore need to be dropped.

Yea but who do we replace them with kids with no experience

 

[JJBlade]

Yea but who do we replace them with kids with no experience

The players aren't the problem

 

[Lane Ender]

The players aren't the problem

The manager?

 

[bakeblade]

Yea but who do we replace them with kids with no experience

Exactly we clearly needed to bring in another striker and midfielder pre season, so it's on the Prince really

 

[Jimmy Fleck]

Exactly we clearly needed to bring in another striker and midfielder pre season, so it's on the Prince really

This entire ordeal always boils down to Prince.

 

[UddersBlade]

The next 3 games will tell us a lot about where we are as a team.

Stoke h
Blackburn a
Bristol City a

Fine margins could be 9 pts or could be 1 or 2pts…..

 

[Pedro's Winger]

We were excellent against Luton and then the manager decided to tell the players they weren't that good and couldn't compete against Leeds.
Absolutely needless negativity and brainless management.

 

[Lane Ender]

Exactly we clearly needed to bring in another striker and midfielder pre season, so it's on the Prince really

It’s what we do now what matters pre seasons gone

 

[bakeblade]

The next 3 games will tell us a lot about where we are as a team.

Stoke h
Blackburn a
Bristol City a

Fine margins could be 9 pts or could be 1 or 2pts…..

True, the last 2 games have confirmed we are not an automatic promotion team. The next 3 will be interesting, investment is needed in January

 

[Blademan18891889]

This entire ordeal always boils down to Prince.

What the best 6 year spell in 30 years? . Accept what we are ffs. It will never change

 

[UddersBlade]

True, the last 2 games have confirmed we are not an automatic promotion team. The next 3 will be interesting, investment is needed in January

That will only happen with new ownership. Or if we sell Hamer, Anel etc to raise funds.

 

[Pedro's Winger]

True, the last 2 games have confirmed we are not an automatic promotion team. The next 3 will be interesting, investment is needed in January

Are Sunderland an automatic promotion team? Wilder has enough resources to put out far better performances than the last two.

 

[Bell4]

Exactly we clearly needed to bring in another striker and midfielder pre season, so it's on the Prince really

And here’s the rub

The Prince is deffo to blame

 

[robbiez666]

I don't understand how playing O'Hare and Hamer and then Brewster/Brooks/Rak-Saki makes sense.

Play Brooks and Rak-Saki on the wings. Give Hamer in the midfieldwith an attacking brief.

 

[Tezza1889]

I don't understand how playing O'Hare and Hamer and then Brewster/Brooks/Rak-Saki makes sense.

Play Brooks and Rak-Saki on the wings. Give Hamer in the midfieldwith an attacking brief.

Get them crossing first time into the box, catch them at 6s and 7s cause panic, knock a few goals in.. why not?

Were overplaying it again, that first half was southgate esque..

 

[AWetFlannel]

The next 3 games will tell us a lot about where we are as a team.

Stoke h
Blackburn a
Bristol City a

Fine margins could be 9 pts or could be 1 or 2pts…..

Think these two games already have. We went unbeaten against bottom half and mid table teams, but lost away from home at two of the best sides. Five or seven points are expected given our season so far.

 

[AWetFlannel]

I don't understand how playing O'Hare and Hamer and then Brewster/Brooks/Rak-Saki makes sense.

Play Brooks and Rak-Saki on the wings. Give Hamer in the midfield with an attacking brief.

JRS and Brooks have only started on the right this season. They are left footed and a big part of their game is cutting in onto it. Just like I've never seen Saka, Mahrez or Salah play as a left winger, we won't see Brooks or JRS.

 

[jt64]

Who is Margins, and what did he do that we need to dock his wages?

 

[s20Blade]

We were excellent against Luton and then the manager decided to tell the players they weren't that good and couldn't compete against Leeds.
Absolutely needless negativity and brainless management.

He did the same first season back in the championship in 2017. Don't think he can manage a team that needs the extra motivation to get over the line like Hecky did in this league.

 

[AWetFlannel]

He did the same first season back in the championship in 2017. Don't think he can manage a team that needs the extra motivation to get over the line like Hecky did in this league.

Yeah, he couldn't get a team promoted out of this league if he tried, just not a good enough motivator. And god forbid if he luckily took one up, he'd never motivate them to punch above their weight in the PL!

 

[Numpty's Dusty Ruts.]

Get them crossing first time into the box, catch them at 6s and 7s cause panic, knock a few goals in.. why not?

Were overplaying it again, that first half was southgate esque..

No, it was simply Wilderesque!!

 

[CarlMcBlade]

While ever we’re not scoring or scraping 1-0 wins we’re precariously close to losing games. The 1-0 wins have really papered over our weaknesses in the team, lack of creativity, positivity and a formation that enables us to control games.

How many great performances have we had this season regardless of the wins?

Wilder needs to look at how we’re playing offensively because it’s not working, Hamer out of position for a start needs to be changed and also the players that haven’t been effective, Ohare and Moore need to be dropped.

Luton…that’s it for me.

 

[TJ blade]

True, the last 2 games have confirmed we are not an automatic promotion team. The next 3 will be interesting, investment is needed in January

With no money... its going to be difficult.

 

[s20Blade]

Yeah, he couldn't get a team promoted out of this league if he tried, just not a good enough motivator. And god forbid if he luckily took one up, he'd never motivate them to punch above their weight in the PL!

He's just living off his success at Middlesbrough and Watford

 

[Maurice Maurice]

We were excellent against Luton and then the manager decided to tell the players they weren't that good and couldn't compete against Leeds.
Absolutely needless negativity and brainless management.

Nail on the head pal. Rak Sakyi scores 2, finally looks like he's beginning to enjoy it and what does he get? Stuck on the bench at Leeds. Moore's not working, he's a passenger because of the way we play, Cambell looks even worse so fuck knows what we're going to do if he keeps hoping the big target man will suddenly come good. No idea why Brooks fell out of favour but should he come back in he'll be low on confidence as it's obvious he's behind the rest and is seen as a bit part player

Really bad management, and I'm usually in Wilders corner but going so negative at Leeds when we were looking pretty confident has really fucked us over. Sent out the message that he doesn't trust the players and whether that's right or wrong, his actions say a lot.

Cowardly, negative and not what we need. We have a good squad with some real attacking talent in it, going to Leeds and then Middlesbrough looking for a nil nil is never going to work.

UTBFTP

 

[Keen Blade]

Yea but who do we replace them with kids with no experience

Front four should be JRS , Campbell , Brewster , Brooks - they're not kids.
Midfield two of Souza , Hamer , Blaster.
Defence picks itself.

 

[Keen Blade]

Are Sunderland an automatic promotion team? Wilder has enough resources to put out far better performances than the last two.

Genuine question , did Sunderland spend much in the summer ?

 

[Greenblades]

Nail on the head pal. Rak Sakyi scores 2, finally looks like he's beginning to enjoy it and what does he get? Stuck on the bench at Leeds. Moore's not working, he's a passenger because of the way we play, Cambell looks even worse so fuck knows what we're going to do if he keeps hoping the big target man will suddenly come good. No idea why Brooks fell out of favour but should he come back in he'll be low on confidence as it's obvious he's behind the rest and is seen as a bit part player

Really bad management, and I'm usually in Wilders corner but going so negative at Leeds when we were looking pretty confident has really fucked us over. Sent out the message that he doesn't trust the players and whether that's right or wrong, his actions say a lot.

Cowardly, negative and not what we need. We have a good squad with some real attacking talent in it, going to Leeds and then Middlesbrough looking for a nil nil is never going to work.

UTBFTP

Spot on.

His attitude is so poor and so unlike the years we came back up.

We took it to people. Our team then was built on belief, drive, determination and some skill.

This team is good. He has been able to keep his best players and has added quality that everyone on here was delighted with.

To be fair up until the negative last 2 games he’s done well. ( I’m no fan by the way but credit where due)

However……. He sets the tone , he sets the vision and creates belief.

That’s his job as it is any managers job in any industry.

People will eventually believe what you tell them.

Unbeaten, no goals in 6 /7 games and you change the shape and tell the press and the team we are not good enough.

People blaming the prince need to give their head a wobble.

Last 2 games sit with Wilder……. Just as much as the first 9 did.

Let’s see Chris?

Caught a wave or can do it ?

Let’s see.