Fairly quiet on here.....

[Patrick Suffaux]

Its as if there's nothing new to moan about

UTB

 

[judge]

Yes ,shit isnt it ?
Hate it when we win

 

[Rollerball]

Said the same in shoutbox, seems the performance and result was satisfactory to the majority this week, long may it continue

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Yes ,shit isnt it ?
Hate it when we win

So why haven't those who've been criticising recently made as many posts on here after today's result?
Normally your good self and blader are into double figures after the match, but hardly got started this evening.
Not questioning your bladey bladeness just wondering why those who've been very critical don't post on the back of a very good performance.

 

[judge]

So why haven't those who've been criticising recently made as many posts on here after today's result?
Normally your good self and blader are into double figures after the match, but hardly got started this evening.
Not questioning your bladey bladeness just wondering why those who've been very critical don't post on the back of a very good performance.

 

[Northyorksblade]

I reckon a lot of Blades are out celebrating, and I'm on my way. Pig behind the bar and several Leeds fans in the company. Oh I'm happy.....

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

I reckon a lot of Blades are out celebrating, and I'm on my way. Pig behind the bar and several Leeds fans in the company. Oh I'm happy.....

Ask them if they have 7up on the soda gun.

 

[blader]

So why haven't those who've been criticising recently made as many posts on here after today's result?
Normally your good self and blader are into double figures after the match, but hardly got started this evening.
Not questioning your bladey bladeness just wondering why those who've been very critical don't post on the back of a very good performance.

You've just explained exactly why. Why would we be on here criticising after a good performance? We played well, and there's not much more to be said than already has been.

 

[S5Blade]

You've just explained exactly why. Why would we be on here criticising after a good performance? We played well, and there's not much more to be said than already has been.

Think the point they are trying to make is you could put as much effort into praising the team when they play like today as you do when games like Swindon.....

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

You've just explained exactly why. Why would we be on here criticising after a good performance? We played well, and there's not much more to be said than already has been.

Yes I mean you can have too much praise sometimes can't you? It's not like criticism, you can never have too much of that.

 

[Revolution]

Damn it. My money was on Mattbianco or blade too long making the usual post slagging off other supporters after a victory.

 

[metalblade]

Damn it. My money was on Mattbianco or blade too long making the usual post slagging off other supporters after a victory.

Yep there is always one isn't there

 

[blader]

Yes I mean you can have too much praise sometimes can't you? It's not like criticism, you can never have too much of that.

Think the point they are trying to make is you could put as much effort into praising the team when they play like today as you do when games like Swindon.....

OK well if you want an honest review: we played well. However, I'm not singing and shouting just yet as we've beaten a shocking gillingham side (just) and are only sat 7th. Had murphy not managed to squeeze that goal in, the whole mood would have been utterly different. We played well, in fact the best we've played, but at home against a poor side who had no intention of going near our goal (yet still managed to score!). It was a good performance, but I seem to suffer from high expectations as I expect us to be in Bristol City's position (top and unbeaten) and not seventh.

The first 80 minutes: whilst we played well it made it glaringly obvious how we lack a poacher. Hiting the post is not bad luck, it's a poor finish, especially considering where they were shooting from. So yes we performed well in a training game of attack and defence, but there's still room for improvement if we want to trouble the top 2. I am content after that performance, however that is the minimum I expect from these games in all honesty. I have remained consistent in that I believe we will finish in the playoffs (just) but I still think there are several teams better than us. Personally, I expect automatics from League 1, so there lies my disappointment. I will accept promotion through the playoffs (if that ever happens) but my expectations are top 2. Take from that what you will.

 

[Northyorksblade]

Do you have this high expectations in life in general? If so, you are going to gave a life of disappointment.

 

[shorehamview]

Anyone would think there was a big do on and plenty of people would be there, drinking too much wine and some gin they'd sneaked in.

 

[Deadly_D'Jaffo]

Chuffin rubbish. I stormed aht'a ground on 80th minute so I missed it all. If we'd av got striker I wunt av. Weeeerzz muneeeh Prince?

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

OK well if you want an honest review: we played well. However, I'm not singing and shouting just yet as we've beaten a shocking gillingham side (just) and are only sat 7th. Had murphy not managed to squeeze that goal in, the whole mood would have been utterly different. We played well, in fact the best we've played, but at home against a poor side who had no intention of going near our goal (yet still managed to score!). It was a good performance, but I seem to suffer from high expectations as I expect us to be in Bristol City's position (top and unbeaten) and not seventh.

The first 80 minutes: whilst we played well it made it glaringly obvious how we lack a poacher. Hiting the post is not bad luck, it's a poor finish, especially considering where they were shooting from. So yes we performed well in a training game of attack and defence, but there's still room for improvement if we want to trouble the top 2. I am content after that performance, however that is the minimum I expect from these games in all honesty. I have remained consistent in that I believe we will finish in the playoffs (just) but I still think there are several teams better than us. Personally, I expect automatics from League 1, so there lies my disappointment. I will accept promotion through the playoffs (if that ever happens) but my expectations are top 2. Take from that what you will.

^ v

You've just explained exactly why. Why would we be on here criticising after a good performance? We played well, and there's not much more to be said than already has been.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

You've just explained exactly why. Why would we be on here criticising after a good performance? We played well, and there's not much more to be said than already has been.

But following that logic you wouldn't post when we play badly as that's also been covered.
Thanks for replying though, it would seem clearer that unless pressed you only feel the need to post if there is something to criticise.
No problem with that, we just know that your comments aren't balanced and considered, just a vent of frustration when things haven't gone our way.

 

[blader]

But following that logic you wouldn't post when we play badly as that's also been covered.
Thanks for replying though, it would seem clearer that unless pressed you only feel the need to post if there is something to criticise.
No problem with that, we just know that your comments aren't balanced and considered, just a vent of frustration when things haven't gone our way.

Cheers. No point in responding to anything I say in future then. Save us both some hassle I think

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Cheers. No point in responding to anything I say in future then. Save us both some hassle I think

No need to get the hump, I'm simply asking for clarification. Put me on block if it upsets you.

 

[dingledog]

Everyone is still in shock at the 'special award' for the McCabe family last night. Dictators the world over specialise in giving themselves special awards. Let's organise an event, I know, we can have a special award for us, good idea, or so the conversation goes. Cynic moi?

 

[itsinyerblood]

^ v

Got to say Pat, reading blader's qualified 'praise' is the best smile I could have today. You just get the impression that even if we'd played a 'good' side and impressed he'd still find a way to cause what should have been happiness to turn sour. Just enjoy it for what it was, good performance, and much to feel positive about. So much so that we can even recognise the unstoppable quality of the opposition goal, as good as anything we'll see this season.

It's becoming more and more obvious that blader feels compelled to complain when times are tough, just the sort of support that's needed of course. Such a pity that he can't use his imaginary connection to every other league club to form a more balanced view of how things actually are for the Blades. If he could only see that he's marginal at best, backed up by the repeated mantra that wouldn't be out of place at a Dignitas clinic.

 

[blader]

No need to get the hump, I'm simply asking for clarification. Put me on block if it upsets you.

I say what I see. You think we'll finish top 2, that's how you see it. Fair enough, but just because I don't think we're capable of finishing in the auto spots doesn't mean it's not considered. It just means we see the game differently. As I say, we won yesterday, great, but I have nothing to add as saying anything negative about the game would be daft and pointless so I prefer to stay quiet. What u won't do is come out after yesterday and say 'yes that's it, we're going up' because I still need more convicting. I just feel coyness after yesterday was the best thing, all things considered.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Everyone is still in shock at the 'special award' for the McCabe family last night. Dictators the world over specialise in giving themselves special awards. Let's organise an event, I know, we can have a special award for us, good idea, or so the conversation goes. Cynic moi?

Dingle, what better way to celebrate the years of under-achievement than to have a medal or badge commissioned as a reminder of how not to do what we royally failed to do, and then to have that 'special' evening where the club's detractor's can enthral to the depressing message that their club is only worth complaining about. As for McCabe, I'd suggest a pendant, or similar, of your avatar shaking the hands of every chairman from Reg B. onwards, it might seem a wasted creative opportunity, but it would certainly add perspective. As for you being a cynic, well maybe, but at least you are that welcome kind, a healthy cynic.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

Got to say Pat, reading blader's qualified 'praise' is the best smile I could have today. You just get the impression that even if we'd played a 'good' side and impressed he'd still find a way to cause what should have been happiness to turn sour. Just enjoy it for what it was, good performance, and much to feel positive about. So much so that we can even recognise the unstoppable quality of the opposition goal, as good as anything we'll see this season.

It's becoming more and more obvious that blader feels compelled to complain when times are tough, just the sort of support that's needed of course. Such a pity that he can't use his imaginary connection to every other league club to form a more balanced view of how things actually are for the Blades. If he could only see that he's marginal at best, backed up by the repeated mantra that wouldn't be out of place at a Dignitas clinic.

Much as I agree with your general point and the way you put it, it is of course any supporters prerogative to "support" in whatever way they see fit. My general disbelief is at the constant disproportional expectation some supporters have.

To have a minimum expectation of being top and unbeaten is unrealistic in my view. That can happen and we have done it by this stage in the past, just as Bristol City are now. Achieving it is all down to a combination of good form, momentum and a little bit of luck. Not being top and unbeaten at this stage is not a definite indication of being unable to achieve promotion. Some would have us believe it is.

I firmly believe that our true situation at the moment is that we have a solid team but are a couple of quality players away from being able to challenge for the top two. I also believe that we can get those players and have enough to maintain a high position until we do. We have some shortcomings like all teams at this level and over the course of a 46 game season we are as likely to improve as we are to get worse. Our decision making on and off the pitch in the coming weeks and months will determine which way that goes.

I prefer a balanced and reasoned way of looking at things, not taking out individual examples of where things have gone well/badly and basing our entire season on it.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Much as I agree with your general point and the way you put it, it is of course any supporters prerogative to "support" in whatever way they see fit. My general disbelief is at the constant disproportional expectation some supporters have.

To have a minimum expectation of being top and unbeaten is unrealistic in my view. That can happen and we have done it by this stage in the past, just as Bristol City are now. Achieving it is all down to a combination of good form, momentum and a little bit of luck. Not being top and unbeaten at this stage is not a definite indication of being unable to achieve promotion. Some would have us believe it is.

I firmly believe that our true situation at the moment is that we have a solid team but are a couple of quality players away from being able to challenge for the top two. I also believe that we can get those players and have enough to maintain a high position until we do. We have some shortcomings like all teams at this level and over the course of a 46 game season we are as likely to improve as we are to get worse. Our decision making on and off the pitch in the coming weeks and months will determine which way that goes.

I prefer a balanced and reasoned way of looking at things, not taking out individual examples of where things have gone well/badly and basing our entire season on it.

No complaints with that critique mate. And to clear any misunderstanding, I too support any supporter in having the opportunity to say what they like, but opinions will generate other, often oppositional, opinions. It's what the forum's for, and it's why we all come here to enter into that sense of community, even if at times there's hostility towards other posters.

Your analysis of the team is a good 'un too. We're a way from being a good team, but the potential is there. As you say, additional acquisitions will, I hope, change that potential into a side that looks like it has something about it that we'll all want to get behind. The expectation at the beginning of the season was misplaced, and as things have panned out we're slowly showing signs of what dogged persistence can be rewarded with, but it will take far more than simply being persistent. How good or poor we can become will reveal itself between now and the end of the season, but I'd like to think I'm capable of standing back, evaluating the much bigger picture, and then draw a conclusion based on the information that I've managed to obtain.

Final comment, yes, the quality of decision making that reveals itself is what will determine where this club is going. I'm hoping those decisions are creative and productive ones. UTB

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

What I struggle with is that how a side with a squad especially containing a midfield 5 from Wallace, Doyle, Scougall, JCR, Baxter, Basham, McGinn, Flynn, Murphy, Dimao, Reed is weaker than last year. Plus even though I myself feel we need a forward (not Ched) on loan we're also stronger upfront.
So the only area which makes any logical sense for the weaker argument can only be aimed at the defence which isn't significantly weaker due to the signings which we've made.
That's why I simply don't see how the overall significantly weaker argument stands up because for me it clearly doesn't.

 

[sitwell]

OK well if you want an honest review: we played well. However, I'm not singing and shouting just yet as we've beaten a shocking gillingham side (just) and are only sat 7th. Had murphy not managed to squeeze that goal in, the whole mood would have been utterly different. We played well, in fact the best we've played, but at home against a poor side who had no intention of going near our goal (yet still managed to score!). It was a good performance, but I seem to suffer from high expectations as I expect us to be in Bristol City's position (top and unbeaten) and not seventh.

The first 80 minutes: whilst we played well it made it glaringly obvious how we lack a poacher. Hiting the post is not bad luck, it's a poor finish, especially considering where they were shooting from. So yes we performed well in a training game of attack and defence, but there's still room for improvement if we want to trouble the top 2. I am content after that performance, however that is the minimum I expect from these games in all honesty. I have remained consistent in that I believe we will finish in the playoffs (just) but I still think there are several teams better than us. Personally, I expect automatics from League 1, so there lies my disappointment. I will accept promotion through the playoffs (if that ever happens) but my expectations are top 2. Take from that what you will.

You like saying I don't you .

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

What I struggle with is that how a side with a squad especially containing a midfield 5 from Wallace, Doyle, Scougall, JCR, Baxter, Basham, McGinn, Flynn, Murphy, Dimao, Reed is weaker than last year. Plus even though I myself feel we need a forward (not Ched) on loan we're also stronger upfront.
So the only area which makes any logical sense for the weaker argument can only be aimed at the defence which isn't significantly weaker due to the signings which we've made.
That's why I simply don't see how the overall significantly weaker argument stands up because for me it clearly doesn't.

No it doesn't for me either. The squad has far more depth and balance. Familiarity and cohesion are the things we need to improve. That and and you say, another forward.

 

[Bergen Blade]

No it doesn't for me either. The squad has far more depth and balance. Familiarity and cohesion are the things we need to improve. That and and you say, another forward.

Having many decent players doesn't auomatically guarantee good football. Nigel Clough will admit it's been a struggle getting the balance right this season, hence the many changes for almost every match so far. If we get a fully fit squad with loan additions complementing what we have we should improve a lot.

Fantastic that we finally put in a good attacking performance, looking forward to seeing the full match later on.