FA Cup - Does it deserve our respect?

[Grizzly blade]

Most important question here for me is...do bookings in the cup count for league games and vice versa?
Also, if booking limit was reached prior to this game could a suspension be served for the cup game rather than league game?

Having our first 11 available all season is looking critical at the moment. So we don’t want any injuries or suspensions being collected from a cup game against non league opposition.

So assuming we are still putting out the current side in the league by then, I would expect ALL those currently on the bench to start and looking who we could play to rest Norwood, Fleck, Mousset and the full backs.
Concerned we don’t have any players who can step in sufficiently for them if needed.

 

[Brother-Leech]

Wasn't Taylor's last ever touch for us a penalty miss in the play-off final?

You've talked me into it.

You beat me to it.

 

[Cheets]

Straight after the intense Christmas period? We'd be insane to play a strong team.

 

[Deleted member 1486]

The fact that it will be a 3pm Saturday makes it more appealing as well.

Unlikely. This is nailed on to be a BBC fixture I'd have thought?

 

[mattbianco1]

I understand the sentiment, but we've got a very long, tough season ahead. Tiredness, suspensions, injuries will take their toll later on. Our squad is ok, but we don't have the same quality in depth.
Doing that will be just one more match to add to tiredness / injuries.

It's still changing 7 players. It's keeping the "core four" if you like but then giving starts to the bench - McBurnie, Sharp Jags etc.

 

[mattbianco1]

The fact that it will be a 3pm Saturday makes it more appealing as well.

It won't be on Saturday. We play Liverpool at 8pm on the Thursday. It will be Sunday/Monday

 

[PokerBlade]

I know it's FA rules that the minimum price is £10 but have the club considered charging £5 or less to get more people in?

 

[Sparky]

The only thing that narks me about Prem football is the lack of game. With very few game in mid week and the games at the weekends all over the place. I really do miss the Saturday/Tuesday/ Saturday set up. It’ll be nice to go to a game at 3pm Saturday for a change.

Will it be then though given we are away at Liverpool on the Thursday night?

 

[jt64]

Again: FA rules say that we can't reduce the price below £10...

So we charge a tenner and give everyone a coupon for a fiver off a future league game

 

[ATL Recs]

Make it £5 a ticket, offer Fylde as many as they want and let them have the gate receipts. I know football is a business and we aren't where we are due to being charitable, but in the same was as it's tradition for the Championship play off winners to cede all gate receipts to the loser, surely we can do our bit for the cash strapped lower echelons here and set an example to boot?

Fylde are not cash strapped

 

[BushBlade]

They need to respect the fans that turn up too. Changing all 11 would be stupid.

I'd go like this:

Moore
Basham Jagielka O'Connell
K. Freeman Norwood Fleck Osborn
L. Freeman
McBurnie Sharp
​

That changes 'enough' but also maintains the core of the team (Bash, JOC, Norwood & Fleck)

I think we’ll have to see how many points we’ve got by then. If we have a bad month we won’t see any of them starting.
If not, I’d stick with the way we play now, have Luke instead of Fleck, Besic for Bash and Enda for JOC.

 

[DazBlade88]

This game is after would be our 4th game in 11/12 days including Liverpool and Man City away. I'd be amazed if there weren't wholesale changes.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

It's still changing 7 players. It's keeping the "core four" if you like but then giving starts to the bench - McBurnie, Sharp Jags etc.

Maybe. I might be being over protective. I suppose, especially this season, I only care about the league and don't want to risk anything.

 

[Hillsboro Blade]

Anyone else getting that sinking feeling that this is going to go fucking tits up?

 

[Ricky]

Play a couple of big guns and have the game won by half time. Then take them off.

Verrips
Jags Stearman Bryan
Besic Norwood L.Freeman Osborn
McGoldrick
Robinson McBurnie

 

[carthesis]

This is an odd title for this thread - it confused me hugely.

The simple answer is "Yes. Every football team up and down the land should respect every other, at all times." (Well, possibly excepting South Barnsley). We should certainly respect Fylde - just because we have been fortunate enough to make it to the PL and they're in the National League doesn't give us any kind of divine right.

Then i read the thread and i realised the comment was more about "Should we respect them enough to whack out a full strength team?", which is a very different question. We shouldn't roll out the U23s, but we do have to use games like this as an opportunity to give players on the fringes some game time. I'd expect us to do that even if we were playing a Championship or other PL squad.

And I agree it would be a nice gesture to support Non-League by forfeiting our gate receipts (and potentially our 3rd Round prize money which seems to be £135k - buttons for a PL or even Championship team) to the National League itself rather than to any particular team.

 

[CharlotteBlade]

So the game is on Saturday 4th... I’ll be going - I like to get a different view other than the back of the kop and actually see now and again when we have cup games. Think it was £15 for the Sunderland game so not too bad however it would be nice to slash the ticket prices for this one or do some sort of offer to get a better attendance - I think it was about 9k for Sunderland.

 

[Snowman]

We should engineer a first game draw and take it to a replay at their place so that all the ground nerds can tick another one off.

 

[ucandomagic]

I will go whatever they charge, because it’s what I do.

I will expect to watch the Kean Bryan gang swan around with assumed superiority, while they are outworked and outplayed, like Rotherham were last night. However, I won’t expect our gang to use their superior fitness at the end as Rotherham did.

I will then see Millwall or Ipswich get to the semi at Wembley and remember a hot day in the Green Man and the Ally Ally Oh march to the ground.

Then I’ll get back to enjoying watching us play Citeh and the Scousers and accepting what it means to manage a pretty thin squad. After all, almost every game is as good as a Cup semi these days.

 

[SB_90]

it will be 10/11 thousand crowd I feelit what we average for fa cup for the last many years

but mainly we need to win this because can you imagine the Ignomy of if we lose to non league side at home in consecutive years. if im being mega critical wilder has never had a cup run & is only thing missing of the "greatest ever manager" list & also can you imagine the fury at S6 if we are walking out on fa cup final day & singing abide with me. they would be fuming

 

[BushBlade]

Anyone else getting that sinking feeling that this is going to go fucking tits up?

If you mean we’re not going to win the FA Cup this season, yes, I’ve had that suspicion for a while.

 

[CharlotteBlade]

Always the same analysis after any cup game whenever anyone looses “we can concentrate on the league now” ...

 

[bongleblade]

The club have to do a better sales job perhaps automatically adding fa cup 3rd round home tickets to season tickets

Great idea... also I don't see why we can't do a big giveaway of tickets to local schools too, use the John Street for kids and there families.. we need to solidify the youth fan base while we are still in the PL and this would be a great way to try and kick things off, plus great PR for utd as a community club.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Great idea... also I don't see why we can't do a big giveaway of tickets to local schools too, use the John Street for kids and there families.. we need to solidify the youth fan base while we are still in the PL and this would be a great way to try and kick things off, plus great PR for utd as a community club.

We do that every game remember, minimum 10k given away to schools and students.

 

[HackeyBlade]

So the game is on Saturday 4th

I wouldn't count on it. As mentioned above more likely the Sunday due to us playing Thursday

 

[Addison]

Yes, having been brought on to take a penalty. Wank bastard.

His final two appearances for us were epic. Brought into the team due to injury to Matt Hill for the key Stevenage game. Lost the ball in the opposition half and was just jogging back over the halfway line as Luke Freeman set up the first. Left for dead by Freeman for the second.

Fast forward to the play off final. After 118 minutes of pure durge against Udders Wilson has the brainwave of bringing on Taylor for the final two minutes, apparently a penalty specialist even though no-one had ever seen him take one. Simmonsen has done the business and saved the first two in the penalty shoot out. Taylor strolls up to the ball and proceeds to hit the fking post, that being his only contribution to the game.

Even worse we wonder why Quinn was kicking off with Wilson after the game. It transpires that Taylor wasn't even in the nominated five and Quinn had been moved down the order to accommodate him. Typically Quinn scored his penalty when he had to take it.

Jordan Stewart was shit, Williams just as bad but has any other left back so monumentally fcked up in two of our most important games of the season.

 

[Tray]

Who ever isn't playing regularly should be starting. At the moment we have a definite first XI. While this may change slightly over the tough December period, it won't change drastically unless there are suspensions and/or injuries.

I'd want to see something like:

Moore
Freeman - Jags - Stearman - Bryan - Osborn
Ravel - Besic
Robinson
Sharp - McBurnie
​

Gives the second string a much needed run out. In the grand scheme of things the result isn't important. Might give a few players a bit of confidence, although I was there for previous cup games where the starting XI was very similar and performances have been dire. But a bad performance against a non-league side is definitely better than a Coutts-style injury in a freak accident to one of our regular XI.

 

[Tray]

I agree with posts about giving extra loyalty points out though, that would encourage a few more to attend and stop people going on about it so much!

 

[Athens Blade]

In the FA cup we have been drawn against the lowest ranking team left. At home.

From AFC Fylde’s point of view they have drawn a premier league side in a classic old ground. Do we owe it to these players to turn up and not let them play in front of an empty ground? Don’t forget these players have been fighting for this probably since August.

Along these lines do the club need to play there part and reduce prices to make this a proper old school FA cup tie.

C’mon Bladesmen let’s show them what a proper club is UTB

Yes. I remember when FA cup third round day was a big occasion. However, fans and top clubs don’t seem interested until the quarter finals, it’s a shame. Closing half of the ground, no atmosphere and the knowledge that we’ll probably change the entire team doesn’t help.

 

[BladeInIreland]

Had more of an interest when you could qualify as a runner up.