Ex-Blade Dean Saunders Banged Up

[Kanye]

I know exactly how it works......if it was you or I, we would not be getting out pending an appeal.....,the appeal would be prepared whilst incarcerated.

Do you know exactly how it works?

Someone who knows more about it than me may be able to correct me, but as far as I'm aware, bail is granted based on the strength of the appeal or the circumstances (such as health issues) of the defendant, rather than just granted because they're a former footballer.

 

[Shalalalafenoughty]

I know exactly how it works......if it was you or I, we would not be getting out pending an appeal.....,the appeal would be prepared whilst incarcerated.

You obviously don’t know “exactly how it works”. Bail pending appeal against sentence is routinely granted where the sentence is a short one. A “ten weeks-serve five” sentence comes into this category.

 

[Shalalalafenoughty]

Do you know exactly how it works?

Someone who knows more about it than me may be able to correct me, but as far as I'm aware, bail is granted based on the strength of the appeal or the circumstances (such as health issues) of the defendant, rather than just granted because they're a former footballer.

It’s based on neither. Essentially, the question for the court considering bail pending appeal against sentence is how quickly the appeal can be listed for hearing and how much time the appellant will have served by then. The shorter the sentence the more likely bail is to be granted.

 

[@thelane]

You obviously don’t know “exactly how it works”. Bail pending appeal against sentence is routinely granted where the sentence is a short one. A “ten weeks-serve five” sentence comes into this category.

Like I said the CJS is a joke

 

[Shalalalafenoughty]

Like I said the CJS is a joke

Genuine question: what’s your problem with him being granted bail pending appeal?

 

[diplomat]

I’ve not really looked in to this but 10 weeks in the chokey seems a lot for a refusal to offer a test. Is that because he was clearly drunk? Was he seen driving erratically? Or were the police tipped off by bar staff? And I presume his licence is suspended in the meantime? Or is he innocent until proven guilty?

If he’d have given a sample would he just be facing a ban? Or is that jail too?

I would like to add that I hate drink driving. Back in the 90’s I worked at a golf club who did a police golf day. It was loud and several pints each were consumed, I don’t remember anyone not drinking. They’d have had some in the bar before the meal too. I remember a conversation along the lines of ‘well we’ve had a big meal, I’m sure it’s fine’ and other comments about knowing who would stop them so they’d be waved on. Sick really.

 

[1889]

I reckon it’s fairly unusual to receive a custodial sentence for failing to provide.

I think it more typically results in a year or 18 month driving ban and fine.

Perhaps that’s the basis of his appeal? I think the body cam footage is quite damning and clearly shows he was extremely drunk and the magistrates thought he was taking the piss, so responded in kind

One pint, one pint of Jack Daniels maybe Dean?

 

[@thelane]

Genuine question: what’s your problem with him being granted bail pending appeal?

My issue is that sentence had been passed.....the case is straight forward as far as I have read and the facts are not in dispute (or so it seems).....the appeal is presumably against length of sentence......he is a public figure, who tried to circumnavigate the system by refusing to blow......he was clearly hammered.....a real public danger on the road.....who could have killed someone.....the judge gave him 10 weeks.....is that not in the public interest?.....to make an example of somebody who thinks he is above the law we all have to follow.
I think 10 weeks is lenient.......the appeal, based on this set of circumstances, could in my opinion, be prepared and heard whilst he stays inside........It really does send out the wrong message.........this is my opinion and I know others have a different one, which is fair enough.

 

[Shalalalafenoughty]

My issue is that sentence had been passed.....the case is straight forward as far as I have read and the facts are not in dispute (or so it seems).....the appeal is presumably against length of sentence......he is a public figure, who tried to circumnavigate the system by refusing to blow......he was clearly hammered.....a real public danger on the road.....who could have killed someone.....the judge gave him 10 weeks.....is that not in the public interest?.....to make an example of somebody who thinks he is above the law we all have to follow.
I think 10 weeks is lenient.......the appeal, based on this set of circumstances, could in my opinion, be prepared and heard whilst he stays inside........It really does send out the wrong message.........this is my opinion and I know others have a different one, which is fair enough.

That’s an argument in favour of the sentence that was passed and there’s clearly some merit in what you say about it. But, given that he has like all defendants sentenced by a Magistrates’ Court a right of appeal against that sentence which he has exercised, how is justice done by requiring him to serve that sentence while the appeal is pending? Saunders clearly isn’t a flight risk, there are no substantial grounds for thinking he’s going to offend on bail and he can’t interfere with witnesses or obstruct justice as he’s pleaded guilty. We don’t know all the facts of the case - newspaper reports only ever give some - but it would be small consolation to him at the appeal hearing if he’s served most if not all of the five weeks to hear the Crown Court judge, sitting with two magistrates, tell him that the appeal is successful as, on the facts, he shouldn’t have received a prison sentence in the first place.

I’m not arguing that the sentence was wrong. I’m arguing in favour of the bail pending appeal system.

I agree with you, by the way, that the criminal justice system is a “joke” although I suspect we’ve come to that conclusion for vastly different reasons.

 

[Sabella's Socks]

Not having a go at cyclists here just pointing out what all too often happens, coming down from Owler Bar one Sunday morning (just been to Chatsworth farmshop), had driven past the the Former Fleur De Lys and the Cross Scythes pubs and was sticking to the speed limit (which I do try to do anyway, although in modern cars is actually becoming harder to do), I knew that the police had their ANPR/Speed trap van parked on the island at the bottom of Bushy Wood and Abbeydale Road South.
As I approached the final dip just before the junc's of Abbey Rd Sth/Totley Brook Rd/Bushy Wood a group of cyclists (about 10ish I think) both undertook and overtook me just on the corner in that dip where the road narrows to a single lane, of course the cops are not suddenly going to and can't jump out of the van as the cyclists would have been at Beauchief traff lights by then.
I have had this happen a few times and not just there, I know this does not represent the majority of the bicycle community but am afraid it is becoming more common, just as more and more car drivers dont know (ignore) what road markings and mandatory blue background roadsigns mean (again only a minority, but I will also apply that to a minority of Cyclists as well).

Motorists break some laws. Cyclists break others.

It's always fascinated me that a driver will happily do 80 on a motorway, but will, with a kind of Pavlovian obedience, stop at a red light on an empty crossing, on a straight road in the middle of the night with no-one around.

For me the inconsistency here is explained not by what's legal/illegal or dangerous/safe (using phones), it's just about what's conventional or not conventional.

The way I see it broflakes get face on about cyclists because they're different. There's no other reason.

Get a bike lads. It'll cheer you up no end.

And for what it's worth cyclists cycling two abreast because "it's not illegal and they have every right" are anti-social bell-ends.

 

[Sabella's Socks]

The majority of Cyclists don't annoy me as it isn't hard to hold back and pass them quickly and safely giving them plenty of space. I've only had one incident with a cyclist when he tried to undertake me when I was turning left and just before I was about to manouvere I checked to see where he was and he hadn't stopped to let me turn, so I stopped and he stopped and told me I had nearly put him in to the side of my car, when in reality he was breaking every rule of the road.

I don't know what the evidenc is but in my experience teaching new cyclists this (about not undertaking) is the one thing that would save the most lives, injuries, and general trauma (including to responsiible drivers who ended up killing and maiming).

 

[Nick Jansky]

Are they the ones wearing the tight pink or pale lemon?

Johnson

 

[Bill Johnson]

Johnson

What's açtually funny is you thinking you're funny laughing at a fictitious name on a football message board.
That's a really special kind of stupid.
Take a bow.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

Hopefully when ge's back inside he

I’ve not really looked in to this but 10 weeks in the chokey seems a lot for a refusal to offer a test. Is that because he was clearly drunk? Was he seen driving erratically? Or were the police tipped off by bar staff? And I presume his licence is suspended in the meantime? Or is he innocent until proven guilty?

If he’d have given a sample would he just be facing a ban? Or is that jail too?

I would like to add that I hate drink driving. Back in the 90’s I worked at a golf club who did a police golf day. It was loud and several pints each were consumed, I don’t remember anyone not drinking. They’d have had some in the bar before the meal too. I remember a conversation along the lines of ‘well we’ve had a big meal, I’m sure it’s fine’ and other comments about knowing who would stop them so they’d be waved on. Sick really.

Video of him online, he's pissed.

 

[Nick Jansky]

What's açtually funny is you thinking you're funny laughing at a fictitious name on a football message board.
That's a really special kind of stupid.
Take a bow.

And you too for having such a suitable fictitious name.

What a johnson

 

[Shirty Blade]

Driving down Sharrow lane and safely overtook a cyclist giving him loads of room. Got to the junction at the bottom to turn right onto London road and the idiot tried to undertake me at the Junction as I was turning left and nearly knocked him off. He then started banging on my car and giving me the verbals. He then set off down towards the lane which just happened to be the direction I was going. There was no opportunity for me to pass him as there were cars on either side so I drove slowly behind him. He continued to give the verbals and accused me of dangerous and intimidating driving. I'm a regular cyclist myself with a red white and black bike! Guess some cyclists are just knobs like some drivers too. Especially the woman motorist who knocked me off my bike on the Wicker whilst driving and smoking a fag!

 

[ChrisDysonHT]

At the end of the day, when you take to the wheel of a car, you are in control of a couple of tonnes of heavy metal that if you lose control of it you can kill and maim people.

The majority of Cyclists don't annoy me as it isn't hard to hold back and pass them quickly and safely giving them plenty of space. I've only had one incident with a cyclist when he tried to undertake me when I was turning left and just before I was about to manouvere I checked to see where he was and he hadn't stopped to let me turn, so I stopped and he stopped and told me I had nearly put him in to the side of my car, when in reality he was breaking every rule of the road.

What does get my goat are people who think it is acceptable to drink and drive. I've never done it, never will do. If I did decide to have a few pints one night and went out and killed someone and it was caused through drink driving, I don't think I could ever live with something like that on my conscience.

The only thing that annoys me with Dean Saunders is that he hasn't got longer inside, especially for his breathtaking arrogance.

Well said

 

[shorehamview]

I’ve not really looked in to this but 10 weeks in the chokey seems a lot for a refusal to offer a test. Is that because he was clearly drunk? Was he seen driving erratically? Or were the police tipped off by bar staff? And I presume his licence is suspended in the meantime? Or is he innocent until proven guilty?

If he’d have given a sample would he just be facing a ban? Or is that jail too?

I would like to add that I hate drink driving. Back in the 90’s I worked at a golf club who did a police golf day. It was loud and several pints each were consumed, I don’t remember anyone not drinking. They’d have had some in the bar before the meal too. I remember a conversation along the lines of ‘well we’ve had a big meal, I’m sure it’s fine’ and other comments about knowing who would stop them so they’d be waved on. Sick really.

My Dad was a sergeant in the plod years ago, he told me that there were several high ranking plod in Sheffield who used to regularly drink and drive. The constables and sergeants were always on the lookout for them, and it was an unofficial competition between them to see who could nick the highest ranking officer and make it stick.

 

[Tynemouth Blade]

 

[Gavlar]

Twat. Theres too much of this that goes on. Hopefully he will learn from it and not do it again.

 

[Redflame]

Knob

 

[Manuel Azaña]

Vincent Pericard

Bartender, I'll have a dash of lime and a slice of lemon with that.

 

[ShockingBadBuy]

Bartender, I'll have a dash of lime and a slice of lemon with that.

How very 1980s of you .

 

[Cerberus Blade]

“I’ve come free at the side”

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Shirt sponsors put him up to it obviously.

 

[Booker4]

Loved him as a player, and gave me one of my finest memories at BDTBL with his goal off his own throw in via keepers back

But no sympathy at all, he may have looked crestfallen as he realised he was going to prison, but how would he have felt had he knocked over a child pissed up. Sure he can afford a taxi after a skin full

Hopefully been high profile and hitting the headlines will stop others from doing it
Wonder if he’ll Keep his punditry work?
Carragher got roasted for gobbing at someone, nothing compared to this ....

I was lucky enough to be there too for that game! Port Vale scored an absolute beauty just after that too which thankfully didn't matter in the end.

If he comes out and accepts what he did was stupid then I think he will be in a much better light than saying he was unfortunate and the sentence was harsh, even if it is harsh, which I don't think it is personally but I haven't read all about the case. He's ok on Talksport but I wouldn't be surprised to hear they sack him, and he can't have any complaints if they do.

I've just read that the Judge called him arrogant so it seems he's not helped himself.

 

[Blade56]

Arsehole is out already on bail, while they appeal the sentence.

Ex-footballer Dean Saunders freed from jail after serving one day of 10-week sentence

He was jailed on Wednesday after admitting failing to comply with a roadside breath test and failing to provide a breath specimen.

news.sky.com

Don’t care whatever good time links he had with us I hope he gets his sentence doubled, looses his soap on a rope and they tattoo wanker across his forehead.
Be a MAN Saunders, you were 100% pissed as a fart. Admit it and take the punishment, it might have been my or anyone else’s grandson that got in the way of your car and selfish behaviour.
Wanker

 

[Manuel Azaña]

Blade56

Add a million likes to your tally.
Bang on the nail.

 

[FMBlade1]

No longer:

Dean Saunders wins appeal to overturn jail sentence

A judge has quashed the ex-footballer's jail sentence for failing to take a breath test in August.

www.bbc.co.uk