Everton v Wimbledon......and Segers

[LS16Blade]

So were the "dark forces" also at work at Stamford Bridge?

Had we held on they would have gone down regardless of what Segars did.

They wouldn’t. Had we drawn, Ipswich would have been relegated.

 

[Harry's Game]

Talking of Wimbledon, Sheffield United and throwing games … does anyone know what Mervyn Day is up to these days?

 

[Pollingtonblade]

They wouldn’t. Had we drawn, Ipswich would have been relegated.

So was this plan hatched in the week leading up to the game or was it a season long thing?

 

[Large Mendonca]

He did. Unequivocally the most blatant act of cheating I’ve ever witnessed. An obvious “bung”

Plough lane.

Was akin to the Harlem Globetrotters !

UTB

I’m pretty sure that if we’d won that game at Plough Lane it would have been 8 wins on the bounce which I think would have been a record.

My alleged opinion is that allegedly a certain player might have had an alleged bet on us, allegedly

 

[Large Mendonca]

They wouldn’t. Had we drawn, Ipswich would have been relegated.

It was 30 years ago, but didn’t they get a 0-0 draw away at Blackburn that day? It was as nailed on a home win as you could get. Something also rings a bell that Liverpool rested 9 players in a game (2nd to last I think) against one of those threatened too.

 

[Booker4]

It was 30 years ago, but didn’t they get a 0-0 draw away at Blackburn that day? It was as nailed on a home win as you could get. Something also rings a bell that Liverpool rested 9 players in a game (2nd to last I think) against one of those threatened too.

Fulham was the team you're thinking of if you're thinking of 2007 under Warnock. Not so sure on 1994

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Fulham was the team you're thinking of if you're thinking of 2007 under Warnock. Not so sure on 1994

So Liverpool, Everton, Chelsea and Ipswich are all complicit in relegating us In two separate seasons..

 

[wak1889]

Oh christ, not again.

There is no "conspiracy" to keep Everton in the Premier League and we weren't "cheated"

We were playing in a football match ourselves that day and like true fuckwits threw away a 2-1 lead with around 15 mins to go, we also fucked up the midweek prior to this by failing to beat Oldham Athletic.

Yep couldn't agree more I'm sick of the match fixing rubbish, look at the goals 1 is a penalty, ok may have been a dodgy decision but not segers decision, 2nd is an absolute worldy In top corner and 3rd is savable but nothing worse than grbic concedes every week

 

[Paul1963]

Story I heard from someone in football was that Everton we’re trying to sign Amokochi and the agent trying to seal the deal was John Fashanu and if Everton were relegated the deal was off

 

[John Street West Terrace]

I was there at Plough Lane for the Fashanu incident , no rhyme or reason for the handball def dodgy as they come . We’d won 7 on the spin & if we’d won there it would have been a new club record . 100% convinced their were betting syndicates influences involved in that and the Goodson Park result , 30 years ago this would have been very hard to prove unlike in the online betting world now

 

[alcoblade]

So "not guilty" means he wasn't guilty of match fixing?

“Beyond reasonable doubt”. There remains enormous suspicion that he was guilty, and anyone around at the time witnessing it thought so.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

“Beyond reasonable doubt”. There remains enormous suspicion that he was guilty, and anyone around at the time witnessing it thought so.

Oh he must be then if that's the case. So I'm clear Hans Segars is at fault for our relegation in 94 and there was a conspiracy to keep Everton in the PL?

 

[alcoblade]

So Liverpool, Everton, Chelsea and Ipswich are all complicit in relegating us In two separate seasons..

I think you’re projecting. Most people around at the time thought there was match fixing going on, and we would have benefited from the Fashanu incident. It’s quite possible that there was match fixing without believing it was a conspiracy to relegate us.

 

[alcoblade]

Oh he must be then if that's the case. So I'm clear Hans Segars is at fault for our relegation in 94 and there was a conspiracy to keep Everton in the PL?

There you go again. Another straw man.

 

[Weasel]

Oh he must be then if that's the case. So I'm clear Hans Segars is at fault for our relegation in 94 and there was a conspiracy to keep Everton in the PL?

No. You aren't understanding, bless. To help you further so that it is crystal clear what the vast majority on this thread are saying:

1) United didn't help themselves on the day and lost the game in the last minute. Utd shot themselves in the foot as usual. Hans Segers by himself did not relegated SUFC. We agree on this point.

2). There was probably no conspiracy to keep Everton up from the PL, referee, or any other influencing bodies.

3) No other clubs including Wimbledon or Everton were in on any conspiracy to relegate SUFC that season.

4) Fashanu and Segers had some extremely strange performances around this time, and were involved on numerous occasions with hame changing events for Wimbledon FC. They in all probability, took financial bungs to throw games there were involved in, with one of these games in all likelihood being the Everton v Wimbledon match.

Clear enough for you ?

 

[Nick Jansky]

Oh he must be then if that's the case. So I'm clear Hans Segars is at fault for our relegation in 94 and there was a conspiracy to keep Everton in the PL?

My understanding at the time was that the allegations were about an overseas betting syndicate paying him. No conspiracy. Our relegation or Everton’s survival had nothing to do with it.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

No. You aren't understanding, bless. To help you further so that it is crystal clear what the vast majority on this thread are saying:

1) United didn't help themselves on the day and lost the game in the last minute. Utd shot themselves in the foot as usual. Hans Segers by himself did not relegated SUFC. We agree on this point.

2). There was probably no conspiracy to keep Everton up from the PL, referee, or any other influencing bodies.

3) No other clubs including Wimbledon or Everton were in on any conspiracy to relegate SUFC that season.

4) Fashanu and Segers had some extremely strange performances around this time, and were involved on numerous occasions with hame changing events for Wimbledon FC. They in all probability, took financial bungs to throw games there were involved in, with one of these games in all likelihood being the Everton v Wimbledon match.

Clear enough for you ?

My view is some Blades fans like to cling to point 3 that there is a conspiracy to keep Everton in the prem and harp on about it talking of "dark forces" do people realise how pathetic it sounds? Or put it this way if it happened to the pigs and they went on about conspiracies we'd be laughing our bollocks of at it.

Point one is my view and that's it.

I'm as entitled to believe there was no match fixing or bribes in a similar way that I believe the moon landings happened, covid wasn't a hoax and Michelle Obama doesn't have a cock

 

[Rufus Smalls]

I'm not determined to do anything I just don't believe there's a conspiracy to keep Everton in the prem and send us down.

I went to 30 games that season and agree we did almost pull off a miracle given as usual the board fucked the manager over by selling our best player.


However as ever our destiny was in our own hands and we blew it and that isn't Everton, Segars or the FA Fault

It doesn’t matter whether we had won or lost that final match v Chelsea. It was obvious to anyone with half a brain cell that Wimbledon handed that game to Everton on a plate, irrespective of our result.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

It doesn’t matter whether we had won or lost that final match v Chelsea. It was obvious to anyone with half a brain cell that Wimbledon handed that game to Everton on a plate, irrespective of our result.

The team? I thought it was just Segars?

 

[alcoblade]

My view is some Blades fans like to cling to point 3 that there is a conspiracy to keep Everton in the prem and harp on about it talking of "dark forces" do people realise how pathetic it sounds? Or put it this way if it happened to the pigs and they went on about conspiracies we'd be laughing our bollocks of at it.

Point one is my view and that's it.

I'm as entitled to believe there was no match fixing or bribes in a similar way that I believe the moon landings happened, covid wasn't a hoax and Michelle Obama doesn't have a cock

I don’t really understand this post, but you keep asserting that people are talking about conspiracies and corruption aimed at us - very few (if any) are making that point here - yet you seem to want to repeat that with every post, no matter how many times it’s pointed out to you.

 

[ancientblade]

biggest fix of a game ive ever seen in over 60 years of watching football all 3 everton goals were dubious but the 3rd when hans segers deliberatly dived over graham stuart weak grass cutter was embarrasing and segers didnt even make it look good

 

[Coolblade]

Goalkeeper took bribe, court told

A FORMER Wimbledon soccer goalkeeper, Hans Segers, paid £19,000 into a bank shortly after his team was beaten 3-2 by Everton …

www.irishtimes.com

“A FORMER Wimbledon soccer goalkeeper, Hans Segers, paid £19,000 into a bank shortly after his team was beaten 3-2 by Everton in a vital Premiership relegation match, a court heard yesterday.

The cash was one of a series of payments totalling £104,000 allegedly paid to him by a Far East betting syndicate in return for him throwing games. "It was a match of crucial importance to Everton because it enabled them to stay up in the Premier division," the prosecution counsel, Mr David Calvert Smith, told the jury at Winchester Crown Court.l

 

[Weasel]

Goalkeeper took bribe, court told

A FORMER Wimbledon soccer goalkeeper, Hans Segers, paid £19,000 into a bank shortly after his team was beaten 3-2 by Everton …

www.irishtimes.com

“A FORMER Wimbledon soccer goalkeeper, Hans Segers, paid £19,000 into a bank shortly after his team was beaten 3-2 by Everton in a vital Premiership relegation match, a court heard yesterday.

The cash was one of a series of payments totalling £104,000 allegedly paid to him by a Far East betting syndicate in return for him throwing games. "It was a match of crucial importance to Everton because it enabled them to stay up in the Premier division," the prosecution counsel, Mr David Calvert Smith, told the jury at Winchester Crown Court.l

Nah. He was whiter that white was Hans...and he would never cheat or take a financial payment (from a third party with a vested financial interest in the outcome of a result) in order to make a match defining mistake....

And the moon is made of cheese.

 

[Panini]

He let the goals in. If you recall, at the time Wimbledon’s defence was one of the best in the PL and Everton couldn’t score goals for, erm, toffee.

For what it’s worth, I’m fairly sure he didn’t do it to save Everton from relegation. That was merely an unintended consequence.

It could easily be argued that he/all involved thought the Everton-Wimbledon result was of no consequence because it was assumed all others clubs, including us, would get what they needed from their own games.

 

[Weasel]

It could easily be argued that he/all involved thought the Everton-Wimbledon result was of no consequence because it was assumed all others clubs, including us, would get what they needed from their own games.

Well if anyone thought that, then thry genuinely don't now anything about SUFC and our almost supernatural ability to snatch disaster from that jars of glory.

I bet that jockey on Devon Loch was a Blade.