Evans & Lavery

[metalblade]

Anyone thinking Evans would be up to speed straight away is deluded, last season he got games at Chesterfield too many too soon and picked up injury after injury as a result. Who knows how long it will take for him to be able to play 90 mins week in week out, his signing was always a gamble one which would have been more acceptable if we had gone out from day one to bring in someone with real pace and quality. I wouldn't be writing him off just yet. As for Lavery he was frozen out for a year by the pigs, he too came here not match fit and just when he started looking half decent picked up an injury that kept him out for the rest of the season and put him back to square one I wouldn't be writing him off just yet either. I just don't see the point in giving either pelters just because we need bodies now. There were question marks over both for the start of the season we should have been more active in looking for a striker at the end of last season Hanson and Done were never going to be good enough, Clarke is debatable you could even say the same about Billy who is getting no younger.

 

[Deadbat]

I think the reality is neither were good enough through form/lack of match fitness to start regularly for either us or chessy last year. That is a league below. I am not sure why waiting 5 games, 3 months or how ever long will see much improvement. They have not improved in 12 months so why would another few months matter. Lavery has shown flashes but nowhere near enough. I will stick my neck out and say i dont expect anyone but sharp to be here from current strikers this time next year. We need 2 more strikers with pace and power that can stretch teams or we will see more games like boro, cardiff and leicester where we have only created atuff when games were nearly gone. We almost have to score perfect goal in a way as we dont have pace for ball over top for flick uns or a striker running at teams.

 

[metalblade]

Lets just remember most were saying the same about Coutts a couple of seasons back.

 

[Carlton Blade]

It would be nice to have something different to what we already have. Between them all there's good attributes but apart from (If you really squint) Clarke and Sharp I don't see a way to fit 2 of the 4 in as a partnership. Either height/strength (a better Hanson) or excellent pace/movement with Sharp would be ideal

 

[blade67]

Evansw

Well one positive thing about Evans not doing the business is that eventually every fucker around me will have to stop wanking themselves into a state of delirium at the very mention of his name.

Saturday was embarrassing. On and on they went, getting more and more excited as it became obvious he'd be coming on. Then all the chanting, then he was shit.

Can't we just treat him like any other player with 23 goals in 90 odd games at this level ( similar to Clark) rather than this crazy expectation?

 

[Tyler Durden]

Evansw

Saturday was embarrassing. On and on they went, getting more and more excited as it became obvious he'd be coming on. Then all the chanting, then he was shit.

Can't we just treat him like any other player with 23 goals in 90 odd games at this level ( similar to Clark) rather than this crazy expectation?

Sums it up perfectly for me.

In the midst of all this hype over Evans, we have for the past two seasons had a striker already here, our captain, who single handedly kept us in the 3rd division and was a major part of getting into this one. We largely have him to thank that we aren't playing Forest Green this season.

But nah, Evans is the real hero because he had a dodgy shag, so he's a "lad".

 

[Pierre's PC]

I'd prefer someone who can make near post runs effectively to out and out pace. We make enough crossing opportunities but as sharp likes to hang at the back post it limits our options a lot of the time.

It would take pressure off Sharp and keep teams guessing where the ball is going.

 

[madeinsheffield]

Lavery works hard and does have a few tricks to beat his man, I'm not convinced on his finishing though.

Evans isn't fit, I also think the old adage that the first yard is in his head with the anticipation, then we have to make allowances for how long has passed since he's played a decent run of full speed competitive games. Which is how we picked him up cheap.

 

[blade67]

Sums it up perfectly for me.

In the midst of all this hype over Evans, we have for the past two seasons had a striker already here, our captain, who single handedly kept us in the 3rd division and was a major part of getting into this one. We largely have him to thank that we aren't playing Forest Green this season.

But nah, Evans is the real hero because he had a dodgy shag, so he's a "lad".

Is that what it is?

I wasn't sure but that would be depressing.

I'd always assumed that the obsession was all down to the goal streak he was on, which was amazing but he's a classic form player for me. When the ball is going in the net he's a reight player, but that will get harder and harder the higher he climbs and that means the lean spells grow and then the confidence falls and then he's shit.

Hope I'm wrong like, but don't think I am

 

[1889]

I'd give Thomas a up top role with Billy. I know he's a winger but on his showing against Walsall he is fast, a goal scorer and can beat his man.

I don't think Thomas could be any less productive than Lavery or Evans to be honest.

Lavery is an honest player, gives it his all but whilst he works hard and closes down the back four, he just doesn't seem to have that anticipation and composure in front of goal that good strikers need.

Evans on the other hand, just doesn't seem bothered to me, I thought he'd be a good signing with something to prove, thankful for a second chance. Against Barnsley and Leicester he was a passenger, which both surprised and disappointed me. He may not be match fit, but he's hardly broke out of a trot? I expect him to collapse on the floor exhausted at the final whistle, as a sign of lacking fitness not jog about, fuck me I could do that and I'm certainly not match fit

 

[GrayBlade]

Evans looked good enough against us last season and he seemed to be playing ok for Chessy up to his long term injury, so it might be more about him getting up to speed and match fit from that injury rather than the 5 year lay-off.

 

[bladesmanluke]

Ched Evans was our top scorer in our last season in the championship

Ched Evans was our top scorer in our last season in the championship

Ched Evans was our top scorer in our last season in the championship

Can we dispel this myth that he's only ever been good for one season? The year we went down he kept it respectable. I'm sure he hit post every fucking game as well from what I remember. Was our only threat

 

[Blade56]

Think Brooks will start with Billy tomorrow

 

[WILLIAM H BONNEY]

Both are poor for champ level.

 

[Bartleby]

Evans looked good enough against us last season and he seemed to be playing ok for Chessy up to his long term injury, so it might be more about him getting up to speed and match fit from that injury rather than the 5 year lay-off.

I think he'll pick up the pace and do alright for us in some capacity this season, maybe hit form later on like Leon did last season.

 

[FMBlade1]

Sharp has never really been convincing up front on his own. If Hanson was fit I'd give him a try, but if not Lavery deserves a chance. I don't think he'll take it mind but would be delighted to be proved wrong.

As for Evans, I think we all need to lower expectations and be a bit more relaxed about the situation

 

[WILLIAM H BONNEY]

"FMBlade1, post: 1429853, member: 17324"]Sharp has never really been convincing up front on his own. If Hanson was fit I'd give him a try, but if not Lavery deserves a chance. I don't think he'll take it mind but would be delighted to be proved wrong.

As for Evans, I think we all need to lower expectations and be a bit more relaxed about the situation[/QUOTE]lavery is not a champ striker mate,league 1 is his level

 

[FMBlade1]

"FMBlade1, post: 1429853, member: 17324"]Sharp has never really been convincing up front on his own. If Hanson was fit I'd give him a try, but if not Lavery deserves a chance. I don't think he'll take it mind but would be delighted to be proved wrong.

As for Evans, I think we all need to lower expectations and be a bit more relaxed about the situation

lavery is not a champ striker mate,league 1 is his level[/QUOTE]

I completely agree. If Lavery had played for another league one club and had the same season and we signed him this summer that would be howls of rage and anger on here.

Its more for the sake of morale for the squad. If you play well one game you deserve to start the next one. Ok he wasn't brilliant against Leicester but Clarke is out so Lavery should come in. People are already expecting too much from Evans which is something I always feared.

 

[WILLIAM H BONNEY]

Evens won't make it either at this level and neither will clarke,if utd want to progress then clarke lavery Evens have to find a new club

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

EHHHH Evans has looked a threat when he has come on as a sub, jeez give the guy a chance